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Old 08-16-2008, 06:45 AM
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Congrats !!

But that would drive me crazy... Having one outlet take out 1/2 dozen others...
I need one of these now.....

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So wait... They wired the outdoor outlets to a bathroom GFI breaker?

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So wait... They wired the outdoor outlets to a bathroom GFI breaker?


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So wait... They wired the outdoor outlets to a bathroom GFI breaker?

I guess....
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
I guess....
Did you check with you HOA yet?
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Did you check with you HOA yet?
I have a December 19th appt....
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Who were the retards that wired your house?




Although I've seen much worse...
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That is pretty rigged. The outdoor outlets should be on a separate circuit from anything inside.

Now all you need to do is keep your son from pressing the buttons on the outlets.
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Originally Posted by dom
:ib$20krewiringofthehouse:

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Originally Posted by moeronn
That is pretty rigged. The outdoor outlets should be on a separate circuit from anything inside.

Now all you need to do is keep your son from pressing the buttons on the outlets.



At work we would put the GFCI in the garage and run the seperate outside circuits off of it so there was no chance of the GFCI having water damage.

And very rarely we would just use a GFCI breaker.
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Who were the retards that wired your house?




Although I've seen much worse...

I think the crappy wiring came standard with the laced curtains in the garage option.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
That is pretty rigged. The outdoor outlets should be on a separate circuit from anything inside.

Now all you need to do is keep your son from pressing the buttons on the outlets.
I already warned him...I have no idea, but 2 other electricians told me to check the outlets in the bathroom or kitchen
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
Who were the retards that wired your house?
I'd be on the lookout for an electrician with the last name "Waters".....
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
....2 other electricians told me to check the outlets in the bathroom or kitchen
Well, if it's a local standardized practice, hopefully there was some rhyme or reason for that method of wiring.

Did the outlet wiring meet local building codes at the time it was installed?
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Well, if it's a local standardized practice, hopefully there was some rhyme or reason for that method of wiring.

Did the outlet wiring meet local building codes at the time it was installed?
PA has no codes....
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I already warned him...I have no idea, but 2 other electricians told me to check the outlets in the bathroom or kitchen

So...you called them but neither of them came out?
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
PA has no codes....




Uhhh... good luck....

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So...you called them but neither of them came out?
They would have on Monday....
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
PA has no codes....
Wrong, sort of. There is a statewide code that most towns and townships can and do enforce locally.

It was common back to the 1980's to have all wet outlets (kitchen counter, bathroom, garage, unfinished basement) on a single circuit with a single GFCI (the interruptors were expensive back then).
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Originally Posted by johnnysquire
Wrong, sort of. There is a statewide code that most towns and townships can and do enforce locally.

It was common back to the 1980's to have all wet outlets (kitchen counter, bathroom, garage, unfinished basement) on a single circuit with a single GFCI (the interruptors were expensive back then).
When I bought my house, it was an issue because the finished basement didn't have a C/O. I was told in PA it was no issue....In NJ I wouldn't have been able to buy the house...
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single circuit with a single GFCI (the interruptors were expensive back then).
they still are... was at home depot the other day and GFCI are like 15 bucks each...
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
they still are... was at home depot the other day and GFCI are like 15 bucks each...
Imagine how expense they were back in the day. Luckily you only really need a few around the house so the cost is not bad.
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
they still are... was at home depot the other day and GFCI are like 15 bucks each...
IIRC I got a 3 pack for about $15 bucks.
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When I bought my house, it was an issue because the finished basement didn't have a C/O. I was told in PA it was no issue....In NJ I wouldn't have been able to buy the house...
Some PA municipalities do require an inspection and/or CO on resale. The rest are happy to let buyers and sellers sue each other if the seller made un-permitted and/or non-compliant improvements. Freedom is good, but sometimes requires a lawyer.
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The prior owner gave us all the info from the licensed contractors, so we should be ok....
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Imagine how expense they were back in the day. Luckily you only really need a few around the house so the cost is not bad.

I have nine in my kitchen alone. It was fooking expensive to change them out when the wife wanted different color outlets to coordinate with her out-of-style tile backsplash.
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I have nine in my kitchen alone. It was fooking expensive to change them out when the wife wanted different color outlets to coordinate with her out-of-style tile backsplash.
9? WTF? you only need ones that are close to water inside, IE. The outlet nearest the sink.
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
9? WTF? you only need ones that are close to water inside, IE. The outlet nearest the sink.
Must be code here because the builder wouldn't have spent the money if he didn't have to. Every outlet above a counter plus the one on the island are GFCIs, and not daisy-chained.
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
PA has no codes....
That explains the crappy wiring then. And I thought Joisey was
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I have nine in my kitchen alone. It was fooking expensive to change them out when the wife wanted different color outlets to coordinate with her f**king out-of-style tile backsplash.
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I think I went a little overboard with GFCI outlet - using them for all above counter recepticles even when they are on the same circuit

I also learned that GFCI outlets don't work on switched circuits - i.e. for the disposal outlet under the sink.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I have nine in my kitchen alone. It was fooking expensive to change them out when the wife wanted different color outlets to coordinate with her out-of-style tile backsplash.


And they are all separate circuits you say?


How big is your panel box?
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Originally Posted by Scottman111


And they are all separate circuits you say?


How big is your panel box?
My panel box is ginormous.

I don't think I said they are all on separate circuits -- in fact they are all on a single circuit. They just aren't daisy chained - they are wired like normal outlets, rather than using the special daisy-chaining lugs on one GFCI outlet to protect multiple outlets.
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