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Old 10-15-2007 | 03:13 AM
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Well I went food shopping today, and I looked at the Grape Nuts box and it is 200 calories for 1/2 cup.. Maybe there are different brands of grape nuts?
45 Grams (3/8 cup) = 155 Calories on my box
Old 10-15-2007 | 07:10 AM
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Weight: 185.8

damn went back up.
Old 10-15-2007 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
45 Grams (3/8 cup) = 155 Calories on my box

What brand do you have? I think I was looking at the post grape nuts box?
Old 10-15-2007 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
What brand do you have? I think I was looking at the post grape nuts box?
Kraft...
Old 10-15-2007 | 08:20 AM
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Hmm I'll have to check out the cereal aisle again.
Old 10-15-2007 | 08:25 AM
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Maybe different in the UK?
Old 10-15-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Would it be better if i changed my routine from:

Mon, Wed: HIIT
Tue, Thu: Low Intensity

To:

Mon; Wed: Low Intensity
Tue, Thu: HIIT

Since I do not work out Fri, Sat, or Sun the metabolism effects from the HIIT effects will last through friday? I guess?
Old 10-15-2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Maybe different in the UK?
Branding only. Kraft owns Post.

Grape Nuts is an extremely heavy cereal - the high calorie density doesn't surprise me in the least.
Old 10-15-2007 | 12:33 PM
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Damn Grape Nuts!!
Old 10-15-2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Branding only. Kraft owns Post.

Grape Nuts is an extremely heavy cereal - the high calorie density doesn't surprise me in the least.
For the love of god...
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Branding only. Kraft owns Post.

Grape Nuts is an extremely heavy cereal - the high calorie density doesn't surprise me in the least.

Yeah when I picked up the box it was significantly heavier than any other.. Except me lucky charms
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:18 PM
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Old 10-15-2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
Would it be better if i changed my routine from:

Mon, Wed: HIIT
Tue, Thu: Low Intensity

To:

Mon; Wed: Low Intensity
Tue, Thu: HIIT

Since I do not work out Fri, Sat, or Sun the metabolism effects from the HIIT effects will last through friday? I guess?

It may be better, but just do what feels better. No matter what you do in a month you'll see great results.
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
... to Whiskey.
<---Fustration with trying to take a pic of a box of Grape Nuts....

Again - its about 150 calories per serving here...
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
It may be better, but just do what feels better. No matter what you do in a month you'll see great results.
Does anyone know if it is better? Or is it so minimal that i shouldn't even worry about it. I really have no personal preference of which days i do what, so what ever would be more beneficial, i will do!
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
<---Fustration with trying to take a pic of a box of Grape Nuts....

Again - its about 150 calories per serving here...
You're taking a pic to show us that it's 155 cal per 3/8 cup serving (UK) vs. 200 cal per 1/2 cup serving (US)???
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:38 PM
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I would think the actual gain is minimal, if anything at all
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
You're taking a pic to show us that it's 155 cal per 3/8 cup serving (UK) vs. 200 cal per 1/2 cup serving (US)???

Um isn't that 50 cal per 1/8 cup for both the US & UK?
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Um isn't that 50 cal per 1/8 cup for both the US & UK?
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:44 PM
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The serving is 45 grams...Which is in weight / vs a cup - which is in size.....I have no idea...How much does the box say a serving is in the US?
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:46 PM
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45 grams of marshmallows may be 10 cups, while 45 grams of Grape Nuts may be 1/2 cup.. I don't have a food scale...I can burn them
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
45 Grams (3/8 cup) = 155 Calories on my box
I was going by what this guy said, even though he's not exactly a reliable source of information.....
Old 10-15-2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I was going by what this guy said, even though he's not exactly a reliable source of information.....
I was going by what google said

Sorry 55....Carry on.
Old 10-15-2007 | 02:05 PM
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200 calories was 1/2 cup on the box I saw in the store.
Old 10-15-2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
200 calories was 1/2 cup on the box I saw in the store.
Was that the serving size?
Old 10-15-2007 | 02:24 PM
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1/2 cup was the serving size.. in your smoothie recipe you said 1 cup of grape nuts which would be 400 calories, which is why I asked the initial question... 3 pages ago.
Old 10-15-2007 | 05:32 PM
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Elliptical, 19 minutes HIIT

Calories: 250
Distance: 1.98 miles
Old 10-15-2007 | 07:27 PM
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Question for you FiftyFive. Do you feel any difference after you do the HIIT vs. the non-HIIT? Do you think it helps you are alternating? I'm just curious.
Old 10-15-2007 | 07:45 PM
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I would even say mix it up even more.

3 of my best friends are personal trainers (not crappy ones from Bally's) these guys make mad cash doing private sessions with tons of clients.

I'm similar in size 5 10 185-190lbs

I have a much larger lowerbody from my years and years of playing soccer and hockey... no upper body what-so-ever... I think I bench like 135.

What I have been told is to lose fat, you need to 1. Do cardio 5 times a week if you want to see ANY results. don't be afraid to change it up too, you dont have to sit on a treadmill the whole time... play some bball for an hour or swim for 20 min... this also keeps your muscles from becoming bored and not responding to the workout as much. 2. you need to actually work the muscles around where the fat is (ie big tummy... do crunches, big ass... hit the stairmaster). 3. for cardio, time is better than intensity because intensity strenghtens the heart, but doesnt burn calories (rather than running 2 miles full sprint, try 3 or 4 miles at a slower steady pace). 4. When doing crunches make sure you do different positions to target the different areas... dont forget your lower back, also more weight=less reps (if you do 300 crunches try 150-200 with a 5-10lb weighted ball or dumbell above your head.. crunches are more effective with a high chin and wide elbows... you want to crunch your abs not your entire upper body.


diet is another thing (which is why I'm still 185+lbs... pizza and BK are my weakness.

I did however go on a huge gym binge last summer... did my routines 5times a week and basically lived off turkey sandwiches and chicken breasts for 3 weeks and dropped down to 168lbs for about 2 months. then i met PBR and it all went to shit.
Old 10-15-2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Question for you FiftyFive. Do you feel any difference after you do the HIIT vs. the non-HIIT? Do you think it helps you are alternating? I'm just curious.
Please, call me Hans. I feel that the HIIT gets my heart racing but tell you the truth i feel the non-HIIT is giving me a better full work out, 3 times as many calories, and it seems like twice as much sweat. But I have heard good things about the metabolistic effects of HIIT which is what im very interested in.
Old 10-15-2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX Wisc Badger
I would even say mix it up even more.

3 of my best friends are personal trainers (not crappy ones from Bally's) these guys make mad cash doing private sessions with tons of clients.

I'm similar in size 5 10 185-190lbs

I have a much larger lowerbody from my years and years of playing soccer and hockey... no upper body what-so-ever... I think I bench like 135.

What I have been told is to lose fat, you need to 1. Do cardio 5 times a week if you want to see ANY results. don't be afraid to change it up too, you dont have to sit on a treadmill the whole time... play some bball for an hour or swim for 20 min... this also keeps your muscles from becoming bored and not responding to the workout as much. 2. you need to actually work the muscles around where the fat is (ie big tummy... do crunches, big ass... hit the stairmaster). 3. for cardio, time is better than intensity because intensity strenghtens the heart, but doesnt burn calories (rather than running 2 miles full sprint, try 3 or 4 miles at a slower steady pace). 4. When doing crunches make sure you do different positions to target the different areas... dont forget your lower back, also more weight=less reps (if you do 300 crunches try 150-200 with a 5-10lb weighted ball or dumbell above your head.. crunches are more effective with a high chin and wide elbows... you want to crunch your abs not your entire upper body.


diet is another thing (which is why I'm still 185+lbs... pizza and BK are my weakness.

I did however go on a huge gym binge last summer... did my routines 5times a week and basically lived off turkey sandwiches and chicken breasts for 3 weeks and dropped down to 168lbs for about 2 months. then i met PBR and it all went to shit.


Wow great info. I never though about switching it up would help and that your muscles will get used to the same workout everyday. I also heard that doing crunches wont do much until you get most of the fat off your belly. The only place i really want to lose any fat is my stomach. I am pretty well built everywhere else because i used to lift religously and my muscles seem to just stick with me (Its been +6 months, and i still have definition in my arms, shoulders and back.)

My stomach is the most important part for me. I have belly fat that i really want to get rid of. I havent been doing any crunches because i thought it wouldn't help yet. Maybe i should give crunches a try after my cardio from now on...
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cardio, then crunches w/ weight - very important to add weight, then STRETCH your abs after you do your crunches... it helps the O2 get to them after the work out.


also if you are interested in trying some suppliments, all my buddies and I use REV XP or REV hardcore... its like 40 bucks. It says to take it everyday, 2 doses of 2-3 pills a day.
we all only use 2 pills an hour before a workout... that way your body doesnt become "numb" to its effects and it also makes the bottle last longer and saves you $$$. Check into it... they sell it at Vitiminshoppe.com
Old 10-15-2007 | 09:30 PM
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I was maybe thinking of some sort of green tea or green tea extract i heard it help with metabolism
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that might work too... never really tried any of that though.

the pills do the trick pretty well
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
Please, call me Hans. I feel that the HIIT gets my heart racing but tell you the truth i feel the non-HIIT is giving me a better full work out, 3 times as many calories, and it seems like twice as much sweat. But I have heard good things about the metabolistic effects of HIIT which is what im very interested in.
Your metabolism is going to go up as you get into shape.

If you want to lose weight, the fastest way is going to burn as many calories over your intake as you can. If you burn more with less intense workouts that take more time, do that.

If you want to go harder longer, then do intervals. After warming up, go all out for a few minutes, then recover for a few minutes and do it again. And again. And again, until you are done. You'll get your heart into serious shape doing this, you will build your endurance, and your muscles will get both high and moderate intensity workouts.

I think you'll get more cardio time in doing this than if you alternate the HIIT and LIIT.
Old 10-16-2007 | 06:59 AM
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Weight: 183.6
Body Fat: 22.2%
Old 10-16-2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Your metabolism is going to go up as you get into shape.

If you want to lose weight, the fastest way is going to burn as many calories over your intake as you can. If you burn more with less intense workouts that take more time, do that.

If you want to go harder longer, then do intervals. After warming up, go all out for a few minutes, then recover for a few minutes and do it again. And again. And again, until you are done. You'll get your heart into serious shape doing this, you will build your endurance, and your muscles will get both high and moderate intensity workouts.

I think you'll get more cardio time in doing this than if you alternate the HIIT and LIIT.
So do this for about 30 minutes a day instead of switching from 20 min HIIT and 45 minute low/moderate inensity?
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
So do this for about 30 minutes a day instead of switching from 20 min HIIT and 45 minute low/moderate inensity?

Post #41...

Every other day should be good. I did Monday - Thursday, about 2-2.5 miles a day of running. I would do 5 minutes of warmup at a slow pace, then I would increase the pace on the treadmill a significant amount. I would try to do this for 10 minutes, then I would slowly work my way down to a fast walking pace. Then I would do another 10 minutes at the higher speed, then follow that with a cool down of 5 minutes (slowly decreased every minute).

5-10-5-10-5-10 = 45 minute workout. You could change up the numbers, but I think those intervals are pretty good.

Edit: If you do that 3rd 10 minute interval, add another 5 minute cool down for your body after it. Then make sure to stretch
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So do this for about 30 minutes a day instead of switching from 20 min HIIT and 45 minute low/moderate inensity?
Rather than switching things around so much, I'd stick to one program so you get an idea of what works for you. HIIT is a superior form of cardio. If you're doing it right, it's also very taxing on your body. Therefore you need time to recover. Keep alternating the HIIT, and if you can throw one in on the weekend.
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Rather than switching things around so much, I'd stick to one program so you get an idea of what works for you. HIIT is a superior form of cardio. If you're doing it right, it's also very taxing on your body. Therefore you need time to recover. Keep alternating the HIIT, and if you can throw one in on the weekend.
Im going to try to start going sunday as well


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