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u will never throw anything of mark trust me the pcm on ur car is programmed from factory to throw the lights on for maintenance at certain millage dont worry about that as the oil service we are all different all my cars i use syntec and changed oil at 3000 miles reset the light and no issue
To answer your question Onyekwere:
My TL is 5 1/2 years old. I have to change my oil once a year per the owner's manual instructions before the MM tells me to because I only drive it 3000 a year. I reset the oil monitor back to 100% per the instructions also in the owner's manual (no special device required). Since new, I have had only one service code pop up. It was for changing the rear diff. fluid over two years ago. I change my brake fluid every 3 years, also per the manual. It is the only service on the car that is not mileage based.
I have asked Acura for a written service schedule, and they didn't refuse, but they simple said there isn't one to give. Just follow the MM.
I like my car a lot. All I have to do is change the oil. Per Acura's instructions, as well as the dealership people telling me to just follow the MM, I never have to work on my car. Once a year oil change and I am golden.....per Acura.
To answer your question Onyekwere:
My TL is 5 1/2 years old. I have to change my oil once a year per the owner's manual instructions before the MM tells me to because I only drive it 3000 a year. I reset the oil monitor back to 100% per the instructions also in the owner's manual (no special device required). Since new, I have had only one service code pop up. It was for changing the rear diff. fluid over two years ago. I change my brake fluid every 3 years, also per the manual. It is the only service on the car that is not mileage based.
I have asked Acura for a written service schedule, and they didn't refuse, but they simple said there isn't one to give. Just follow the MM.
I like my car a lot. All I have to do is change the oil. Per Acura's instructions, as well as the dealership people telling me to just follow the MM, I never have to work on my car. Once a year oil change and I am golden.....per Acura.
Thanks! I drive mine significantly more than 3K (on pace for 36K, as I commute) but I'm gonna trust the MID until I'm given a reason not to. As for the (slight) consumption issue, I'll but a 5QT of the recommended Castrol and give that a go.
Thank you all for your commentary on my little experiment, but all good things must come to an end.
I finally reached the 1 qt down mark. Mileage was 4,537 miles. Not nearly what I thought it was going to be, but much better than 1 qt per 2K miles that it was. I guess a better than 50% reduction in consumption is significant.
Over this mileage, I have noticed no difference in gas mileage in comparison with the 5W-20 synthetic I was using. Motor minder is at 50%. I will be changing the oil at 5K and trying another run of Castrol Edge 0W-40 for the summer months and see how the oil consumption compares.
I have found the engine to be exceptionally quiet and smooth with the Castrol, but I really had no complaints with the 5W-20.
Use castrol syntec edge with titanium 5w20 and use 1 quart of syntec lucas u will not consume oil
If you're pouring in Lucas, you should just try 5w30. Lucas just thickens the oil so you burn less. You might as well try a heavier weight oil if that was the case.
I would not do 0w40 brand new motor on 4g uses 5w20 this mean zero wear then 5w30 then 10w30 then 10w40 as the wear on the motor gets bigger mean more miles
Gotcha, I wanted to try 0w-40 because I've rad it's the only pure synthetic and not just a blend; although manufactures label non full synthetics as full syn.
Everything I read about this product is that it thickens the oil but provides zero anti-wear or anti-friction properties like the engine oil that it is supposedly supplementing.
Originally Posted by 4GTLSH-AWD
This is y i use lucas syntec formula Please read this
You use this product based on the marketing language printed on the container?
I been around this product for over 15 years i i been to lucas classes i been to castrol , mobil , penzil royal purple rotela liquid molly seminars... i work with these products for years so no i dont just use it because of what the bottle says
OP, You (or anyone else here) perform any type of oil analysis and have numbers for comparisons?
Just got into an '09 TL Sh-awd coming from a most recent boosted Integra where I've used Rotella T6 (0w-40) but that was a completely different engine setup / configuration. Rotella was chosen because of the oil analysis results from another boosted setup.
For what it's worth (and from personal experience) Mobil 1 sucked on my ls/vtec and turbo setup (Honda/Acura).
Rotella is a very heavy oil but to each its own i never had a car that burned oil from any of my 3 acura legend to my TL to my 08 TL Type s to MDX to my 4G awd 6MT not even my ford explorer sport track (Beater))))
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Rotella is a very heavy oil but to each its own i never had a car that burned oil from any of my 3 acura legend to my TL to my 08 TL Type s to MDX to my 4G awd 6MT not even my ford explorer sport track (Beater))))
Completely agree, it's all application dependant.
If I can say one thing, it would be none of my stock cars burned oil (Honda/VW/Mazda). Once the heavy engine modifications began, I started noticing it more.
If I can say one thing, it would be none of my stock cars burned oil (Honda/VW/Mazda). Once the heavy engine modifications began, I started noticing it more.
Just wanted to be prepared with this one.
I have to stop u right there i guarantee u that ur vw burned oil i can bank on it lol
I have to stop u right there i guarantee u that ur vw burned oil i can bank on it lol.....
VW's engines are POS and they do say it's normal to burn 1 qt per 1000 miles...this is why i will never buy a Benz auddi vw bmw VW or any german Junks
I have to stop u right there i guarantee u that ur vw burned oil i can bank on it lol.....
VW's engines are POS and they do say it's normal to burn 1 qt per 1000 miles...this is why i will never buy a Benz auddi vw bmw VW or any german Junks
Thanks for the rant.
I didn't give you enough info to generalize the whole lineup of VWs like that. I didn't specify the age, model, mileage etc. Not that it matters but the car was a 2.5 L (brand new when purchased) with no issues at the time of ownership.
If I had mentioned a GTI ( 1.8/2.0 T FSI/TSI or any of their boosted motors ) then.. fair game. However, this is neither the time or place.
Consider this, I've been in this game for ~15 years. I've torn down and re-built many motors (mainly Hondas - D/B series ). I've boosted three of my own cars and street tuned on my own. I've had (and still do) access to a shop whenever I need it. My brother's owned a shop and a close friend owns a VW/BMW shop for several years.
One thing I do and do well is keep track of the data of vehicles maintenance / performance over the time of ownership. So if I say none of my stock cars have burned oil ( just as you have ) then better believe it.
I'm not here to bicker which company makes the best motors / engines, I frankly don't care as I have nothing to gain from it. We're on this board for a reason, we share the love for a particular platform.
OP, have you tried using liquid molly additive? Not sure if I've missed it. I've heard nothing but good things about it.
liquid molly was made for the m3 because of oil burning like i said b4 and will say it again (not towards u) ALL GERMAN CARS BURN OIL from experience i have frineds who work at the dealers and own bmw dealers i been working with auto parts for over 15 years...About building motors thats nothing new to me i seen them open brand new M3 engines with bad rings after 12000 miles Trust me i seen it all
liquid molly was made for the m3 because of oil burning like i said b4 and will say it again (not towards u) ALL GERMAN CARS BURN OIL from experience i have frineds who work at the dealers and own bmw dealers i been working with auto parts for over 15 years...About building motors thats nothing new to me i seen them open brand new M3 engines with bad rings after 12000 miles Trust me i seen it all
Aside from going to product sponsored seminars, what your friend's friends say, and working at an auto parts store for 15 years .. do you have any factual information or proof about what oils or additives work best?
You're stating "facts" with 0 proof other than word of mouth or what's on label.
4G owners with oil consumption issues: You want proof?
Send your oil out for analysis to see what kind of levels of wear metal, whether if there's silicon, or any other additives present in the oil and come back and post your results.
It'll give you a much more accurate representation of how your oil is protecting your engine.
Proof is here everyday when i have people calling me asking me for lucas and asking me for parts for german cars with low miles asking for calve seals and piston rings or liquid molly because their bmw is burning alot of oil or when they call me saying that a 2011 M5 in the morning while staring up throws a cloud of blue smoke with less then 20k...And after using the liquid molly its goes away thats proof ...
I'm not really referring to Liquid Molly, or whether if German cars burn oil. Part of that's true, but you're still laying down huge blanket statements with a problem with too many angles.
I'm choosing not to participate in that debate with you.
My point is, I don't care how long you've worked at an Autoparts store ... you have 0 proof of what oil works best for the J37.
I'm not an oil expert by anymeans, but if we had some type of data showing how the J37 is using specific synthetic or dino oils, that would be the proof needed to identify the heavy wear items and what additives or oil weights would be most effective to address the heavy oil consumption issue.
lol its easy to finish this most of people here their cars burn oil mine dont ohh what why is that ? LOL I mean its simple man and the only prof i need is reading the forum and everyone complains about the same shit but wait my car dont burn no oil shit i wonder y that is ? and working at auto parts gives me all i need we do oil samples here we send them out almost every day different types of cars and trucks keeps me up to date on what is good and bad... Also have the pleasure to work with people who have 11 different type of degree in all types of oils and chemicals..... U should Think B4 U speak
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LOL I mean its simple man and the only prof i need is reading the forum and everyone complains about the same shit but wait my car dont burn no oil shit i wonder y that is ?
Here we go with the blanket statements again ...
The fact you read the back of a label and used a little Lucas oil stabilizer & different oil doesn't make you an oil specialist.
working at auto parts gives me all i need we do oil samples here we send them out almost every day different types of cars and trucks keeps me up to date on what is good and bad... Also have the pleasure to work with people who have 11 different type of degree in all types of oils and chemicals..... U should Think B4 U speak
I just had to come back and comment - First and foremost, reading your posts make my head hurt.
Second, you do oil samples on different types of cars & trucks - how many of those were 4G J37s between 2009-2014?
Go figure, there are many weights & grades of oils meant for specific engines but you don't seem to understand that. Were you recommending Castrol GTX 5W20 in the E60 BMW M5 because it works wonders in your car?
I think those 11 types of oil & chemicals got to your head and did a number on your reasoning.
I've got Ultra in now and I've been topping off with Platinum. I'm debating whether I switch to Edge or just use this other jug of Platinum I bought on sale.
I've got Ultra in now and I've been topping off with Platinum. I'm debating whether I switch to Edge or just use this other jug of Platinum I bought on sale.
Keep the 4G community posted, data like this is valuable and shows how oil protects against various wear items. I don't need to tell you that, I just want 4GSTFU-AWD to take note - he might learn a thing or two.
Any idea when you'll send off your next sample? What's your current mileage?
Anybody with notable oil consumption send off any oil samples to Black-Stone?
I've got Ultra in now and I've been topping off with Platinum. I'm debating whether I switch to Edge or just use this other jug of Platinum I bought on sale.
Great, thanks for the update! This is much appreciated.
03-19-2015, 07:52 PM
