4G TL (2009-2014)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

3rd door seal (triple seal) DIY

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-26-2016, 09:02 PM
  #41  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
It's very quiet when driving on the highway too. You don't hear the wind buffeting anymore. You hear the road via tire contact. Thank goodness I have switched my MXMs to a summer only tire. I suspect 2012-2014 models would be even quieter (nvh).

2012 Acura TL First Look - Motor Trend
Old 06-27-2016, 12:15 PM
  #42  
Burning Brakes
 
hadokenuh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,000
Received 153 Likes on 125 Posts
Thanks for the update.

on the front door gap
From reading the OP's posts, where exactly did you use the Z shaped on the front door gap? I plan to do this next month
Old 06-27-2016, 08:44 PM
  #43  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I got all my parts from Amazon...it is listed on the first page. Make sure to get the 'small' d shape.

P shape follows the curve of the back door. You may want to make 2 pieces. I don’t know how well it will hold.



D shape on back door doesn’t go all the way down.






Back Door view of Front Door P Shape. When mounting, make sure it’s right on the bottom flat edge. In James21_h post, it looks like front door is using a P Shape + Z Shape.



P shape on back door. Again, I don’t know how well this is going to hold. I would re-do as 2 pieces without curve.






Because the front door is really long, I would probably get an extra P shape to redo the bottom next spring.

Last edited by echodigital; 06-27-2016 at 08:50 PM.
The following 5 users liked this post by echodigital:
carbonTSEX (06-28-2016), fryrice (09-04-2017), hadokenuh (06-28-2016), HeartTLs (09-10-2017), KarKraze (07-02-2016)
Old 06-27-2016, 11:58 PM
  #44  
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
james21_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: wa
Posts: 134
Received 24 Likes on 13 Posts
Nicely done!! When I did my driver's door, I didn't put it on the bottom edge so it left a small gap. That's why I use Z on P to close up that gap. The other 3 doors, I learnt my lesson and put the P on the bottom edge and it worked perfectly!
And like you experienced, my car is really quiet on freeway and city roads!! I would say pretty much the same quietness I experienced when I had TLX for a day!
Old 06-28-2016, 05:43 AM
  #45  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I leraned my leason too. I need to buy an extra P shape for the bottoms of the door. LOL.
Old 06-28-2016, 08:10 AM
  #46  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I used WD-40 to clean area from grime, water & rag to wipe it down, then rubbing alcohol to clean the area before mounting the shapes.
The following users liked this post:
hadokenuh (06-28-2016)
Old 06-28-2016, 10:54 PM
  #47  
Instructor
 
jefflikesbagels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 32
Posts: 113
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Well, the Z shape is definitely a PITA on the front door edge. I thought I had got it on pretty well, but it was sticking out too far, and would scrape along the foam padding that's inside the front fender area, so I ripped it back out.

I also decided to go with a D shape on the angled portion of the back door rather than a P shape. I didn't really like how it looked with the P shape flaring out when the door is open. I know the D shape may not seal as well, but I'm okay with there being a small air gap. That should help out with the air pressure issue that some other people mentioned in this thread. The front door has an air gap in the same area as well.
The following users liked this post:
echodigital (06-29-2016)
Old 07-01-2016, 11:05 PM
  #48  
Instructor
 
jefflikesbagels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 32
Posts: 113
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Well, so much for that. The P shapes fell off in 2 days. I cleaned the area with WD-40 then alcohol too. I suspect that the "3M" tape is not actually 3M, as to be expected with most parts that come straight out of China. It's not nearly as sticky as the super strength body molding 3M tape that I have.
The following users liked this post:
Georgiey22 (08-12-2018)
Old 07-01-2016, 11:48 PM
  #49  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
Mine are still intact so far. ​I will check in it again to see how it looks next week.

I actually ripped the P shape off the bottom of the door and re-stuck in the lower lip of the doors. I did in the late evening and left it in the hot sun the entire day. I park my car outside so I am assuming the tape may have been heated a bit to stick on even better.

For the Z shape on the front door, I started from the top and put in down the side of the door. I stuck it from the top and pulled the sticker backing off from top to bottom. The trick was to get your fingers to pull the backing off from above and below the 2 hinges. I also did that part last to get a feel for it.

The vendor I choose is listed on the first page of this post.....good luck!
Old 07-02-2016, 06:31 AM
  #50  
Drifting
 
KarKraze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,448
Received 671 Likes on 541 Posts
Great info in this thread.
The following users liked this post:
echodigital (07-02-2016)
Old 07-03-2016, 05:06 PM
  #51  
Instructor
 
jefflikesbagels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 32
Posts: 113
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by echodigital
mine are still intact so far. ​i will check in it again to see how it looks next week.

I actually ripped the p shape off the bottom of the door and re-stuck in the lower lip of the doors. I did in the late evening and left it in the hot sun the entire day. I park my car outside so i am assuming the tape may have been heated a bit to stick on even better.

For the z shape on the front door, i started from the top and put in down the side of the door. I stuck it from the top and pulled the sticker backing off from top to bottom. The trick was to get your fingers to pull the backing off from above and below the 2 hinges. I also did that part last to get a feel for it.

The vendor i choose is listed on the first page of this post.....good luck!
Just to clarify, did you re-attach it to the green line in this pic? I stuck mine to the red line (as far down as you can go on the door), and it did not stick very well at all. I did notice when I was cleaning it, large amounts of black stuff was wiping off, and would not stop wiping off. It looks like where the green line is, it's a lot cleaner, and appears to be body paint. The red line is hard to explain, but it just didn't feel right.

3rd door seal (triple seal) DIY-img_20160703_180053.jpg

Last edited by jefflikesbagels; 07-03-2016 at 05:11 PM.
Old 07-04-2016, 01:00 AM
  #52  
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
james21_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: wa
Posts: 134
Received 24 Likes on 13 Posts
Mine is right below the green line. Red line is too low so every time you shut the door, the P shape would hit the body structure and it will not stay there for long!
Old 07-04-2016, 05:47 AM
  #53  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
Mine is on the green line too.
Old 07-07-2016, 06:24 AM
  #54  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I accidentally bought the D shape instead of the small D shape so I used it on my trunk. I left gaps for drainage and now there is a thunk in the trunk too.


Old 07-07-2016, 11:58 AM
  #55  
Instructor
 
jefflikesbagels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 32
Posts: 113
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
That looks pretty nice! Although, I think that entire area is meant for draining to the center V portion of the trunk, or at least that's what I've seen personally during heavy rain. There should be a gap between the rear windshield and the trunk that carries the water all around the trunk, but maybe the big D shape is big enough to allow water to flow through it.
Old 07-07-2016, 12:29 PM
  #56  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
Yes, I agree. I left some gaps in the corners and the side by the window is still stock.
Old 01-16-2017, 01:37 PM
  #57  
Burning Brakes
 
hadokenuh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,000
Received 153 Likes on 125 Posts
Guys,

Thank you very much for posting all the details. Special thanks to @echodigital and OP (@james21_h) with all the pictures. I check my 2014 MDX and it has these.

I was able to do this to my 13 TL and gotta say it helps with the wind noise a lot. The Z shape is the hardest but I have a small hand so that helps Now there is a solid thunk when I close the doors. My wife is able to tell a difference too. There is still some tire noise but that's expected. I will fix that with a new set of tires soon.

I still have a lot of Z shape available. I am thinking to apply it to the bottom, on the frame, where it meets the P shape of the doors. Hopefully that will keep some of the tire noise out. Any thoughts on that? The down side I can think of is water might stuck there and that will create mold ...

Last edited by hadokenuh; 01-16-2017 at 01:40 PM.
Old 01-16-2017, 11:54 PM
  #58  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I would get new tires first before 'wasting' the stuff so far, I am half way through winter and it's still holding up. FYI, I am running Continental DW for summer and I like them. I think they are quieter than the MXM Pilots that came stock on the 18's. The newer Acura have 2 things that help with sound: Active Noise Cancellation and Tire Nose Dampening Technology

Old 03-17-2017, 02:25 AM
  #59  
Instructor
 
Soal Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 184
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Very interesting & helpful Op.
Would anyone be willing to do a quick write up/how to install on this? I know this would be very beneficial to a lot of members who complain about the wind/road noise.

Last edited by Soal Man; 03-17-2017 at 02:30 AM.
Old 03-19-2017, 08:08 PM
  #60  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
1. Clean area with water.
2. Use WD-40 to wipe out grime.
3. Clean area with water again.
4. Clean contact surface edges with rubbing alcohol.
5. Apply rubber seals (ebay links + location on doors in a previous post). i.e. D/Z/P.

I bought an extra set of seals set so I can re-apply in spring (if necessary). So far, it has lasted a Toronto winter. It was quite mild this year.
Old 03-20-2017, 01:18 AM
  #61  
Instructor
 
Soal Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 184
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by echodigital
1. Clean area with water.
2. Use WD-40 to wipe out grime.
3. Clean area with water again.
4. Clean contact surface edges with rubbing alcohol.
5. Apply rubber seals (ebay links + location on doors in a previous post). i.e. D/Z/P.

I bought an extra set of seals set so I can re-apply in spring (if necessary). So far, it has lasted a Toronto winter. It was quite mild this year.
Thanks for your time and knowledge echodigital. I can only imagine how cold it gets up there. Never the less hope it holds up in the summertime just as good

Last edited by Soal Man; 03-20-2017 at 01:21 AM.
Old 09-07-2017, 03:54 PM
  #62  
Instructor
 
fryrice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: MA
Age: 37
Posts: 213
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Just received my rubber seals today and started the journey. Haven't had the chance to drive it on the highway but hopefully it will be much quieter like everyone said



Old 09-07-2017, 07:15 PM
  #63  
Stay Out Of the Left Lane
 
NBP04TL4ME's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SE Mass --- > Central VA --- > SE Mass
Age: 57
Posts: 8,953
Received 1,236 Likes on 1,023 Posts
Sub'd - This looks very interesting and may give this a try.
Old 09-08-2017, 03:29 PM
  #64  
Instructor
 
fryrice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: MA
Age: 37
Posts: 213
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Update:

Drove into work and was doing highway speed (70-80mph) and it is noticeably quieter. I will be getting new tires as well next week and will update more. Tires would be the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+.
Old 09-09-2017, 06:56 PM
  #65  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
Great! If it comes off at the ends, get some double sided clear Gorilla tape.
Old 09-16-2017, 12:59 PM
  #66  
Advanced
 
TLTesh604's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 66
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by fryrice
Update:

Drove into work and was doing highway speed (70-80mph) and it is noticeably quieter. I will be getting new tires as well next week and will update more. Tires would be the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+.
Looks like u have conti dws06 tires now, any reason you are switching to as3? I have found the 06s to be better than as3 imo.
Old 09-22-2017, 08:12 PM
  #67  
Instructor
 
JakeF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Age: 31
Posts: 180
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
I did this but used Z seals on the front and rear doors. Doing it over a couple days, it seems like the upright ones make the most difference.. From the front you can see that the door jamb is completely sealed. Works really well too, I can barely hear any wind noise now.
The following users liked this post:
echodigital (09-26-2017)
Old 09-27-2017, 05:10 PM
  #68  
Instructor
 
fryrice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: MA
Age: 37
Posts: 213
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by TLTesh604
Looks like u have conti dws06 tires now, any reason you are switching to as3? I have found the 06s to be better than as3 imo.
I needed new tires and Costco had a sale ($70 rebate + 1 cents installation). I love the dws06 drove them for more than 50k miles (got 55k out of them).

We'll see how these AS3+ do, so far I just passed the break-in period.
Old 07-09-2018, 12:59 AM
  #69  
4th Gear
 
Ironwoody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by james21_h
I mentioned that I had a TLX loaner for a day and noticed the car had triple seals on all its doors. So I went ahead and applied an additional layer to all the doors except the front passenger door for an experiment. I noticed the wind noise is definitely reduced when the car is running on high way especially on the newly paved portion. Since I left the front passenger door untouched, my wife and I noticed the mind noise is a bit more noticeable on that side. Here are some pics I took this morning. I spent a total of $30 and one hour of my time to do it. Maybe it's just our mind but we do think it worked. But did not help much on the road noise.... I guess I need a new set of tires. Still running on the OEM crap with 29K miles on the meter.
Cool to see this thread's still going!..
I see in everyone's pictures that the seals are installed to the door frame instead of the door's edges (where they would be more hidden) with the exception of the bottom and front of the door, apparently.
Is there a reason for that, or is it just to make install easier?
Old 07-10-2018, 02:27 PM
  #70  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
On my car, I have placed the rubber seals on the VERY bottom of the edge of the door (Front/Back). If you ever have an issue with the adhesive over time, I have used "double sided" gorilla tape.

Amazon Amazon

I used to order extra rubber seals and reapply but now I can 're-use' them if they start to come off.

Last edited by echodigital; 07-10-2018 at 02:29 PM.
Old 07-10-2018, 03:41 PM
  #71  
4th Gear
 
Ironwoody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good advice, thank you!
I'll grab the tape.
I think what I was missing is most people are putting the seal on the door and on the door-frame... So when the door closes the seals sandwich each other?? Or maybe not...
I'm going to experiment by "dry" installing (no adhesive) to see if I can achieve the desired results without sticking anything to the car jambs (just along the edges of the actual door indention, like you did). If that is snug enough, then I'll move on with this method.
On the trunk and hood, I may stick stripping to both sides (if it fits like that) and get some adhesive pads/mats too. Then follow the Youtube videos...
Thanks again.
Old 07-10-2018, 06:52 PM
  #72  
Racer
 
dregsfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 443
Received 92 Likes on 70 Posts
Why would you do the trunk, unless you have a water leak, or the hood?
Old 07-11-2018, 10:03 AM
  #73  
4th Gear
 
Ironwoody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For sound mitigation purposes, as opposed to weather reasons.
Old 07-11-2018, 12:15 PM
  #74  
Keeping TL until 2029
 
echodigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,042
Received 125 Likes on 108 Posts
I only did the sealed the trunk with gaps but NOT on the hood. I had ordered the larger D rubber weather stripping by accident.

+1 on Ironwoody's reply. It was for a nice THUNK sound.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JM2010 SH-AWD
5G TLX (2015-2020)
8
11-01-2015 07:27 PM
Sbarbee54
3G TL (2004-2008)
1
10-30-2015 04:01 PM
copper07
2G RL (2005-2012)
1
10-26-2015 10:47 PM
Poormans-TL
Car Parts for Sale
1
10-26-2015 09:51 AM



Quick Reply: 3rd door seal (triple seal) DIY



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 AM.