I Have Found the Speed Governor
06-20-2005, 11:04 PM
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I Have Found the Speed Governor
232kph (145mph) is where it's at.
No big deal anyway, it really is a stretch getting there. one really needs ideal driving conditions for it. (relatively cool weather, low air density, dry air)
Anyways, before anyone complains, I was doing it on a deserted highway with no traffic, in ideal conditions, so I'll have none of your recriminations thank you.
No big deal anyway, it really is a stretch getting there. one really needs ideal driving conditions for it. (relatively cool weather, low air density, dry air)
Anyways, before anyone complains, I was doing it on a deserted highway with no traffic, in ideal conditions, so I'll have none of your recriminations thank you.
06-20-2005, 11:10 PM
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nice job sauce,
sweet, what temperatures were you running at? I ran at 16oC and got up to 210kph. I have a 5AT, I felt the car stop pulling in 4th gear. The car still pulled a bit in 3rd, even at redline at about 170kph. but then i hit the brakes slightly cuz there was a gentle curb ahead, the brakes felt shaky all the way down to 80kph, with just a little pressure on the pedal
sweet, what temperatures were you running at? I ran at 16oC and got up to 210kph. I have a 5AT, I felt the car stop pulling in 4th gear. The car still pulled a bit in 3rd, even at redline at about 170kph. but then i hit the brakes slightly cuz there was a gentle curb ahead, the brakes felt shaky all the way down to 80kph, with just a little pressure on the pedal
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Originally Posted by dzuy
that's pretty damn fast there mansauce.
06-20-2005, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by loulinjai
nice job sauce,
sweet, what temperatures were you running at? I ran at 16oC and got up to 210kph. I have a 5AT, I felt the car stop pulling in 4th gear. The car still pulled a bit in 3rd, even at redline at about 170kph. but then i hit the brakes slightly cuz there was a gentle curb ahead, the brakes felt shaky all the way down to 80kph, with just a little pressure on the pedal
sweet, what temperatures were you running at? I ran at 16oC and got up to 210kph. I have a 5AT, I felt the car stop pulling in 4th gear. The car still pulled a bit in 3rd, even at redline at about 170kph. but then i hit the brakes slightly cuz there was a gentle curb ahead, the brakes felt shaky all the way down to 80kph, with just a little pressure on the pedal
Tires vibrated between 170 and 200kph, then back to normal.
06-20-2005, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
Actually, I was a bit disappointed, I thought the car had 150 in it's guts, so it's a fun choker.
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06-21-2005, 12:08 AM
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how do you know it was deserted when you're covering a mile in 24 seconds? I thought you were at the track?And, most importantly, what mileage did you get?
06-21-2005, 12:28 AM
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I've hit the speed governer pretty easy because I was drafting my buddy in his SRT-4. It hit hard too because the car was pulling pretty decent with barely any air to push. The car was in 6th gear with VTEC screaming. I did this top speed run with my Pilot Sport PS2 tires....I would have never tried that with the factory tires though.
06-21-2005, 01:13 AM
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Its about 152 on my '03 CL-S.
I've done it about a dozen times in 6th & 5th gear. Quite scary actually @ that speed .... none the less, I had to see if it was a cut-off in 6th so I'd go back to 5th & it would cut off w/a 1000rpm left in 5th...
Bummer actually.
I've done it about a dozen times in 6th & 5th gear. Quite scary actually @ that speed .... none the less, I had to see if it was a cut-off in 6th so I'd go back to 5th & it would cut off w/a 1000rpm left in 5th...
Bummer actually.
06-21-2005, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
And, most importantly, what mileage did you get?
i have yet to break 100.
maybe i'll have to do that on my drive back to la. 
that may be soon since i'm really getting homesick nowadays.
06-21-2005, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveWhyman
You must have been just over 6000 rpm, the V-tech probably was just kicking in when you hit the limiter. Is is a hard limit (like a rev limit) or is it soft? On some GM trucks it's brutal, you hit 160 and then bam, the engine stops giving.
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Originally Posted by 04Carbon6
I've hit the speed governer pretty easy because I was drafting my buddy in his SRT-4. It hit hard too because the car was pulling pretty decent with barely any air to push. The car was in 6th gear with VTEC screaming. I did this top speed run with my Pilot Sport PS2 tires....I would have never tried that with the factory tires though.
06-21-2005, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
232kph (145mph) is where it's at.
No big deal anyway, it really is a stretch getting there. one really needs ideal driving conditions for it. (relatively cool weather, low air density, dry air)
Anyways, before anyone complains, I was doing it on a deserted highway with no traffic, in ideal conditions, so I'll have none of your recriminations thank you.
No big deal anyway, it really is a stretch getting there. one really needs ideal driving conditions for it. (relatively cool weather, low air density, dry air)
Anyways, before anyone complains, I was doing it on a deserted highway with no traffic, in ideal conditions, so I'll have none of your recriminations thank you.
Funny that on my EuroAccord with CL7A it cuts off higher (245kph=153mph). Driving through Germany a lot I hit 230kph easlily (my normal max straight line speed). Going on a slight declined piece I hit the cutoff point around 245kmh several times. Is the EuroAccord a biut lighter (lex luxury ??) than the TSX or something???
06-21-2005, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mokijoki
Funny that on my EuroAccord with CL7A it cuts off higher (245kph=153mph). Driving through Germany a lot I hit 230kph easlily (my normal max straight line speed). Going on a slight declined piece I hit the cutoff point around 245kmh several times. Is the EuroAccord a biut lighter (lex luxury ??) than the TSX or something???
Usually the speed governor is in relation with the stock tires. Which is why I was surprised to see it at 232kph (could well be 230). At that speed I was doing 6050rpm (estimated), Just in the full lift range. The Euro-r could have shorter gears which allows it to rev just that much higher so it meets it's top hp with top speed.
06-21-2005, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper
i have yet to break 100.
maybe i'll have to do that on my drive back to la. that may be soon since i'm really getting homesick nowadays.BTW, noticed your location description changed again.
Location: alright, maybe it's not that bad, tx
06-21-2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveWhyman
You must have been just over 6000 rpm, the V-tech probably was just kicking in when you hit the limiter. Is is a hard limit (like a rev limit) or is it soft? On some GM trucks it's brutal, you hit 160 and then bam, the engine stops giving.
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Originally Posted by sauceman
The stock tires are good for 150mph.
06-21-2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
Hard limiter? I thought it was drag limited. I guess there goes the theory that with Hondata we are looking at a good 8-10 more MPH to play with!
06-21-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Carbon6
This is true that the factory tires are speed rated to 150mph. But, the overall traction of the factory tires is very poor. So poor in fact that I changed mine out at around 12k miles with plently of tread left. The OEM Michelins just don't provide enough stick to make me feel confident, especially in the wet. In most all Honda and Acura's the weak point in their handling is the tires. The only Honda's that come with good/decent tires are the NSX and the S2000. There's a reason why higher end cars come with Pilot Sports or Contisport 2's or of the like.
06-21-2005, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
It's all about knowing the limits of your tires and driving within them. Top speed in dry conditions is within tolerances for this tires. Tires become dangerous when you exceed their capabilities. That's a universal law.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Hey sauce, according to this chart , 210 Kph (130 mph) is the max speed for VR rated tires. Or do you not have oem's?
06-21-2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by slo007
It's in the manual...
06-22-2005, 09:25 PM
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232kph (145mph) is where it's at
I hope you realize you just voided all warranty work on your engine, transmission and most other parts. If you should have any engine or transmission failure now the computer will show how fast you were going and nothing will be covered.
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If the car wasn't made to be driven at this speed, the governor would have been set to a lower speed IMHO.
I brought my car to the dealer because of big wind noise around 100 mph... They said they couldn't go test drive the car at this speed but they tried fixing the problem. They never mentionned anything about voiding the warranty.
I brought my car to the dealer because of big wind noise around 100 mph... They said they couldn't go test drive the car at this speed but they tried fixing the problem. They never mentionned anything about voiding the warranty.
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Originally Posted by johnstelting
I hope you realize you just voided all warranty work on your engine, transmission and most other parts. If you should have any engine or transmission failure now the computer will show how fast you were going and nothing will be covered.
Compare that to 130 mph in VW's sold in America, and even lower speeds in some American brand models. Most trucks have very low top speeds.
06-22-2005, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnstelting
I hope you realize you just voided all warranty work on your engine, transmission and most other parts. If you should have any engine or transmission failure now the computer will show how fast you were going and nothing will be covered.
06-23-2005, 12:49 AM
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I have also found the Speed Governor. He is Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico. See either http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=1&id=24306 or this one: http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/29290.html. Of course, myself having *never* espeeded once ... 
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You are wrong. If the car was not designed to hit 145mph,
Ok, don't believe me............ next time your at a dealership go in and ask the service manager what would happen if your car engine blew and they (dealership) checked the computer (which they WILL DO) and found out you'd driven the car at speeds in excess of 100 mph.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
06-23-2005, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by johnstelting
Ok, don't believe me............ next time your at a dealership go in and ask the service manager what would happen if your car engine blew and they (dealership) checked the computer (which they WILL DO) and found out you'd driven the car at speeds in excess of 100 mph.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
Also, mansauce hasn't had a warranty for a while, ask him how many miles are on his car...
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Originally Posted by johnstelting
Ok, don't believe me............ next time your at a dealership go in and ask the service manager what would happen if your car engine blew and they (dealership) checked the computer (which they WILL DO) and found out you'd driven the car at speeds in excess of 100 mph.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
I've worked at several different car dealerships, everything from Ford to Jaquar's, and know it's a fact that the car's computer is always checked when major warranty work is needed.
Take a look at your warranty book..... I'm sure it says "under normal operating conditons" and "not due to owners fault". Driving a car 140 mph will definitely void any and all warranty issues, even with a high speed vehicle such as a Porsche of Ferrari.
My last 2 cents on this issue.
