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Old 05-01-2015, 05:59 PM
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Good April sales numbers

4093 in the US and 512 in Canada. Responsible now for all Acura sales growth. Beat RDX in the US. Very good incentives in Canada helps.
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There seems to be plenty of inventory now. In Houston there are more TLX models on the lot than any other Acura. Used to be the MDX or RDX had the most inventory. More inventory, better deals, better selection, better sales.
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I'm still not seeing many on the road. However last week I saw a car transporter filled with TLXs, it was really cool!
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It's a good sign that so many TLXs are selling. That means that either the issues are starting to get resolved, or at the least, any issues will have a greater chance of being reported and remedied.
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Good? Honda shares took a nosedive.
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I have had probably 5 sightings on the road/parking lot in the 5 months I have had my TLX. That doesn't count the ones parked at the Acura dealer

I enjoy seeing others, but am happy that i don't see the same number as say, the Hyundai Sonata. As a first year car, it takes a while to accumulate numbers. I have noticed a lot of TLs and TSXs lately. Good to see the ancestors still spry and running around!
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Mdx outsell tlx in April or tlx win the sales crown for Acura for the month ?
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Mdx outsell tlx in April or tlx win the sales crown for Acura for the month ?

MDX was first with 4970 units sold. TLX sold 4093 units.
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Good. still waiting for 5K units.

This is Acura's year! May will pick up even more....

MDX, TLX and new RDX will help Acura's number big time. Not sure about ILX.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Good. still waiting for 5K units.

This is Acura's year! May will pick up even more....

MDX, TLX and new RDX will help Acura's number big time. Not sure about ILX.
They're advertising the ILX which should help TLX sales - anything to get someone into the showroom.
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Acura TLX beats IS and Q50's sales for April 2015 in U.S and Canada
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
They're advertising the ILX which should help TLX sales - anything to get someone into the showroom.
Hope the advertisements help. Acura sold 60K units so far. I hope this year they hit 200K (Canada & U.S)
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Figure about 800 to 1200 V6 TLX models for April.
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Acura needs to see stronger numbers, glad to see the trend is up. A company that revamps three cars in their line, including their flagship model, all in the same year is in my opinion going "all in" to recapture their sagging market share. The luxury and near-luxury market is very crowded and competitive. I think HMC is in a good place with this year's lineup and should continue to do well. Tuesday, I did what I could for April's numbers and bought a TLX, BWP P-aws TEC. This car represents my 10th HMC car, with over 1.6 million miles in 38 years of driving. Brand loyalty aside, the cars stand up as well or better than other Asian or European models, and the reliability (at least for me), is second to none. I opted to keep, rather than trade my 07 RDX for the TLX, just to keep an SUV in the stable. It has 305k miles, but with 8 years of ownership, and only $800 in mechanical maintenance, the car has been incredibly reliable.
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I'm starting to see them running around the DFW area.
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I'm starting to see them running around the DFW area.
Same here.
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Acura TLX beats IS and Q50's sales for April 2015 in U.S and Canada
Huh??? What??? But those are RWD? How is that possible!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by Rocket_man
Huh??? What??? But those are RWD? How is that possible!?!?!?
Infiniti Q50: 2991 US 255 Canada
Lexus IS: 4008 and 388 Canada.
I don't get your question. What do you mean by RWD? Good car bad car website shows the total sales for the month.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Infiniti Q50: 2991 US 255 Canada
Lexus IS: 4008 and 388 Canada.
I don't get your question. What do you mean by RWD? Good car bad car website shows the total sales for the month.
My point was a bit sarcastic... I was referring to the debate that if Acura only had RWD they would sell better yet the TLX sells better than two of its RWD competitors seemingly because there is greater value in the TLX as an overall package and people buy the car more for that reason than whether it is FWD or RWD so it is at least one data point that the appeal of a car to consumers is about more than just the drive train. See it just isn't funny when you explain it.
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Originally Posted by Rocket_man
My point was a bit sarcastic... I was referring to the debate that if Acura only had RWD they would sell better yet the TLX sells better than two of its RWD competitors seemingly because there is greater value in the TLX as an overall package and people buy the car more for that reason than whether it is FWD or RWD so it is at least one data point that the appeal of a car to consumers is about more than just the drive train. See it just isn't funny when you explain it.
I got it before the dissertation.
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I got it before the dissertation.
Same here
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TonyPac is too serious. :jokerwhysoserioussmile:
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Originally Posted by Rocket_man
My point was a bit sarcastic... I was referring to the debate that if Acura only had RWD they would sell better yet the TLX sells better than two of its RWD competitors seemingly because there is greater value in the TLX as an overall package and people buy the car more for that reason than whether it is FWD or RWD so it is at least one data point that the appeal of a car to consumers is about more than just the drive train. See it just isn't funny when you explain it.
thanks for your detailed explaination
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Originally Posted by justnspace
TonyPac is too serious. :jokerwhysoserioussmile:
no not true. When I read it at first i didn't get the joke, my bad
next time will read twice before answering.
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The inventory has shifted some for the better it seems too.

Currently on cars.com it's:

5,418 FWD I4
6,317 FWD V6
3,351 AWD V6

That's the highest I4 total I've seen yet which seems like a good thing.

They need more SHAWD models. Right now the 3 series has over 60% of it's listings as AWD vehicles - Acura is at 28% with the TLX. 2WD models are still important but Acura needs more SHAWD trims and at a lower price point.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Acura TLX beats IS and Q50's sales for April 2015 in U.S and Canada
Nope...Q50 + Q40 (same engine, same size, both sedan, the Q40 is the old G37) still outsold the TLX in April.


In the first 4 months of 2010 (with the economy still in the crapper) the combo TL + TSX sold 20763 units (11155 TL + 9608 TSX) vs the 13834 for the TLX in 2015.

Considering that Acura (Honda) has to manage only one model instead of 2 and with the cheapening of the content (no more dual wishbone in front, only simple struts) the company is probably making more money from less units which is a good thing but one thing is for sure, the TLX so far is not that great sales success people may think/wish....is selling ok but definitely not a blowout...

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^ I've been expecting you to chime in with your defense of Infiniti and another knock down of Acura. Thanks for not letting me down.

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^^ I don't let sales number bother me too much....I see it more of an opportunity to have better deals (lol) Look at the IS sales for Canada, they didn't do as well as the TLX but I couldn't care less. For me, I drive a vehicle I like, in an area where there are virtually none and gives me some exclusivity.

At the end of the day, I don't buy a car based on how the car reviews love it, how well they sell, how people perceive the car....It is based on teh smile I have when I sit in it, push the pedal and turn the steering wheel. So while I understand that some don't feel the same way I do, and have different reasons for buying their vehicles, that is why I couldn't care what people say about the cars I drive.

Also...I have to say that the white TLX with a bodykit is IMO, better looking than the IS350 FSport I currently drive. I do prefer the interior of the Lexus at this point though and I think it has to do with the cluster and the lack of wood interior.
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^^ I don't let sales number bother me too much....I see it more of an opportunity to have better deals (lol) Look at the IS sales for Canada, they didn't do as well as the TLX but I couldn't care less. For me, I drive a vehicle I like, in an area where there are virtually none and gives me some exclusivity.

At the end of the day, I don't buy a car based on how the car reviews love it, how well they sell, how people perceive the car....It is based on teh smile I have when I sit in it, push the pedal and turn the steering wheel. So while I understand that some don't feel the same way I do, and have different reasons for buying their vehicles, that is why I couldn't care what people say about the cars I drive.

Also...I have to say that the white TLX with a bodykit is IMO, better looking than the IS350 FSport I currently drive. I do prefer the interior of the Lexus at this point though and I think it has to do with the cluster and the lack of wood interior.
very well said. Although I always read reviews and look at numbers but I just realized that I am the same. No matter how many reviews I watch or read that says 4G TL is ugly and this and that. But when I sit inside my 4G TL and Push the start button, I love my car. I find my car much better than G or IS

At the end, it matters what you like....done!!!
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^ I've been expecting you to chime in with your defense of Infiniti and another knock down of Acura. Thanks for not letting me down.

I'm not knocking down anything, just corrected Tony Pac...and definitely not defending Infiniti which I do not think is selling that great either.
Number are not opinions...I do not like particularly the 3 Series either (other than its engines) but you cannot argue with its sales success.

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Oh come on Saturno, 98% of the time you only come to the TLX board to be a negative nancy about the car. There is nothing wrong with that if that's what you are about, but at least own up to it.
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Oh come on Saturno, 98% of the time you only come to the TLX board to be a negative nancy about the car. There is nothing wrong with that if that's what you are about, but at least own up to it.
Never made a mystery that I do not care much about the TLX...IMHO is not a bad car but not that great or special either or the usual value for the money in the Acura tradition...but if it were selling great I would have no problem at all...as I said before, you do not argue with numbers.

I just debate the notion that so far the TLX is selling that well (whatever the reason but Acura dealers are very well stocked in my area so is not a supply issue)...it isn't....even the supposedly ugly 2009-2011 4G TL in the middle of a crappy economy had a couple of months at 4K level (both in March, 2010 and 2011)....

I love my Q50 but is not exactly a sale blockbuster either....

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...or the usual value for the money in the Acura tradition...
LOL, it's ironic that you'd make this comment today, I was just discussing things over at TOV on the very subject. Some there contend that Acura was never a value brand in the old days. And it's because they're NOW a value brand that there are problems.
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LOL, it's ironic that you'd make this comment today, I was just discussing things over at TOV on the very subject. Some there contend that Acura was never a value brand in the old days. And it's because they're NOW a value brand that there are problems.
Back in the 90's when the term "VTEC" sounded as cool as the Toyota's term "hybrid" in the mid 2000's, Acura's mainstream credibility (of course, not including the NSX) was that it had cars that appealed to the Fast and the Furious ricer crowd... the Integras, primarily. The Integra was the perfect complement to other ricer Hondas (Civics and Preludes). The Legend was around, but what was the ratio of Integra to Legend sale? The Vigor was a non-entity. The perception of value was never a problem, because the clientele was primarily low-end kids with their first cars.

Honda then decided that, in order to move upmarket and have larger profit margins, they had to abandon the low-end street racing market and re-target their entire model line towards an older, better educated, and a more upwardly mobile customer (who should presumably be more wealthy).

The problem was that they failed to deliver on the high-end (we all know about the RL, RLX, 4G TL, blah blah blah) and didn't have anything to replace their famous low-end offerings with... it's like McDonald's eliminating the Big Mac and attempting to serve prime rib made with the same ground meat as the burger.
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Originally Posted by Colin
LOL, it's ironic that you'd make this comment today, I was just discussing things over at TOV on the very subject. Some there contend that Acura was never a value brand in the old days. And it's because they're NOW a value brand that there are problems.
I was not living in North America in the 90s (moved from Europe in 1999) but my impression was that Acura has always been a "value for your buck" premium brand.....IMHO the TLX is not longer a strong value proposition...$31.5K for the base FWD sedan with struts up front and a naturally aspirated 200 hp 4 banger is actually a bit steep.

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Originally Posted by saturno_v
I was not living in North America in the 90s (moved from Europe in 1999) but my impression was that Acura has always been a "value for your buck" premium brand.....IMHO the TLX is not longer a strong value proposition...$31.5K for the base FWD sedan with struts up front and a naturally aspirated 200 hp 4 banger is actually a bit steep.
Unlike a 320 which has struts up front, 181 hp, is much less well equipped and costs $1000 more.
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Originally Posted by a77
Unlike a 320 which has struts up front, 181 hp, is much less well equipped and costs $1000 more.
Drive one.....and report back...

The 180 HP are very probably the usually underrated BMW figure, it is a turbo engine which means more costly and much more usable torque , the strut up front are of the dual pivot style (so is the ATS) a bit more sophisticated, effective and pricey.....it is a RWD platform which, rightly or wrongly, is perceived by the market as more premium.

Finally, BMW has never been a value proposition and it can charge more than other brands, definitely more than Acura...however I suspect I may actually find the 320i the better value here compared to the 4 banger TLX.

With current incentives you can get a loaded to the hilt Chrysler 200C AWD V6 for 34.5k and with more tech toys than the TLX, the new Malibu and Fusion are getting the 9 speed as well and the Ford will have an Ecoboost 300 HP AWD version...that is the dangerous competition....

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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Drive one.....and report back...

The 180 HP are very probably the usually underrated BMW figure, it is a turbo engine which means more costly and much more usable torque , the strut up front are of the dual pivot style (so is the ATS) a bit more sophisticated, effective and pricey.....it is a RWD platform which, rightly or wrongly, is perceived by the market as more premium.

Finally, BMW has never been a value proposition and it can charge more than other brands, definitely more than Acura...however I suspect I may actually find the 320i the better value here compared to the 4 banger TLX.

With current incentives you can get a loaded to the hilt Chrysler 200C AWD V6 for 34.5k and with more tech toys than the TLX, the new Malibu and Fusion are getting the 9 speed as well and the Ford will have an Ecoboost 300 HP AWD version...that is the dangerous competition....
No need to report back on a 320i because I drove a 328i. A very nice car, but a rough sounding engine in normal driving. Very nice transmission. Nicely trimmed - this had lots of upgrades inc real leather. Nicely quick but nowhere near the 335 manual I have also driven. Performance isnt that important to me. Actually on normal roads driving a Fit LX MT to is more fun as you have to can it. The TLX is quieter and more comfortable than any of the BMs.

At the end of the day....the BMW wasn't worth the extra over a TLX. Each to their own. I think I'd prefer an A3 to any of the BMWs right now, thinking about it....but they cost more too.
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