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Old 12-08-2014, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^oops. my mistake.
That's the part I saw. My question was does anyone know if this is an area that can be inspected by anything other than for dropping the transmission?
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I always use the parking brake, even in an automatic. People I know in the real world think I'm weird for doing that, but since I learned to drive on a manual and have driven manuals for most of my driving life, it is an ingrained habit.

9AT V6 TLX owners will have to use the parking brake for the time being while this is being sorted out.
Same here and passengers always ask me quizzically why I do that. lol
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Originally Posted by Mr Hyde
That's the part I saw. My question was does anyone know if this is an area that can be inspected by anything other than for dropping the transmission?
im sure it's evident when you put it into park.

I hope they dont have to tear into the tranny just to inspect!
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Honda/Acura needs to stop making automatics altogether. They've been shitty for over a decade now. Granted, there have been improvements, but you'd think that by now it would be a non issue.

This would never be a problem if it was a 6MT
With that thinking, man wouldn't have gone to space. Heck, you wouldn't be driving my 6MT car; you'd be pedaling a bicycle to work.
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Can a mod. fix the title of the OP? It's bothering me.
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LOL. Didn't even catch that until now; its all fixed.
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I just bought a TLX SH-AWD w/Tech on the weekend, was never told they couldn't sell me it. Nor was i told about a recall, and i'm scheduled to pick it up on Thursday.
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I just bought a TLX SH-AWD w/Tech on the weekend, was never told they couldn't sell me it. Nor was i told about a recall, and i'm scheduled to pick it up on Thursday.
then, your car wasnt affected.

its a certain VIN range.
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^ please go to this site and enter in the VIN
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I went to here : American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Divisions

and it shows the recall under my VIN. There was another Acura recall for the TLX involving a safety certification label showing incorrect weight capacity. My vehicle is not shown as being part of that recall (which is correct).

Does anyone have a TLX with a recent VIN (I bought mine back at the end of August) that does not get the recall to show up on that site above?
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Same here and passengers always ask me quizzically why I do that. lol
Same her. Little do they know if you don't, overtime the mechanisms involved will rust and maybe seize. Same with they door key lock. Use it once in a while with the real key (lol). Otherwise it will end up costing an arm and a leg to replace!
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The good news is that lots of Acura techs will get lots of experience dropping sub-frames and cracking open transmissions. Good news because when the time comes to do mine (in 2-3 years) they'll know what they are doing
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Hah! Mine is not affected.
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Originally Posted by Tonyware
The good news is that lots of Acura techs will get lots of experience dropping sub-frames and cracking open transmissions. Good news because when the time comes to do mine (in 2-3 years) they'll know what they are doing
LOL, judging from the people who go on endlessly about the 00-02 transmissions, you'd think they're already experts. Generally, dealer techs do not open transmissions for warranty work. If needed, they swap out a complete unit.
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What you posted is actually 2 recalls. lol. When did you buy your vehicle?
Just over the weekend. I've checked the Honda recalls web site. Fortunately my VIN is not affected.
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Colin... why I said cracking open trannies...

I suspect that moving forward the'll no longer replace but fix.

Therefore pulling out and replacing gears solenoids, valves, shims, you name it. Not because they found a way to make things easier to fix, but because as technology becomes more complex it costs a lot more to replace than to fix. When the cost of replacing is traced back to the plant, it multiplies due to issues that have nothing to do with the problem they are trying to address but with costs related to inventory, shipping, insurance etc. They'd rather pay the dealerships for their time to fix stuff instead of pre-occupying a gazillion dollar plant with it.

Acura under the new management regime is no longer a car manufacturer company. Its a design, management, marketing organization with the manufacturing outsourced to suppliers that don't even share their same last name -lol. All they do is CAD design and type up very precise technical engineering documentation. So in effect they'll be creating mini assembly lines at the dealerships to deal with issues. Lots of changes happening around Honda/Acura these days. It will take 2-3 years to implement this but that is where things are heading... dealerships I hear have been asked to double the number of hoists they have to deal with the new world order (true?) of fix instead of replace.

One thing for sure, the techs are giggling with happiness because they'll finally have something to do other than look for ghost rattles on customer cars at 200 miles/hour
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Originally Posted by Tonyware
I suspect that moving forward the'll no longer replace but fix....

Therefore pulling out and replacing gears solenoids, valves, shims, you name it. Not because they found a way to make things easier to fix, but because as technology becomes more complex it costs a lot more to replace than to fix.
This is a very broad statement that does not apply across the board. For components and electronics it is cheaper to replace than fix. But the equation may change when dealing with a large mechanical items, like an engines and transmissions. I am not sure where the break even point it, but that is what all their accountants are for.
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Also for those you are thinking of buying a TLX in Canada in the next few months, read this before you do:

Canada-U.S. price gap complaints could soon trigger investigations - Politics - CBC News

Prices may come down since it is pretty hard to justify higher prices in Canada for the same product whose half the parts actually come from Canada.

Hang on to your PAWS (lol), things are about to change...
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Quandry
This is a very broad statement that does not apply across the board. For components and electronics it is cheaper to replace than fix. But the equation may change when dealing with a large mechanical items, like an engines and transmissions. I am not sure where the break even point it, but that is what all their accountants are for.
I agree, very broad statement, and I am sure accountants are super busy saving a dime and nickle here and there. We have all seen how specific some of these business processes have become. Years of experience have taught them to calculate things down to a split of a second.

They operate with some very small margins and every dollar counts. They can't afford too many messups. This is a volume business, its not like some butique manufacturer who sells one car a year for a gazillion dollars and they are happy they did so.

PS. I met a guy filling up his brand new Infinity Q50S at a gas station this morning. I asked him how is it going with the new car... he says he got a lawyer to pressure Infinity to buy it back and reimburse him after nobody is listening to him about the steering issues he is having... that bad !!!!
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Originally Posted by Tonyware
Also for those you are thinking of buying a TLX in Canada in the next few months, read this before you do:

Canada-U.S. price gap complaints could soon trigger investigations - Politics - CBC News

Prices may come down since it is pretty hard to justify higher prices in Canada for the same product whose half the parts actually come from Canada.

Hang on to your PAWS (lol), things are about to change...
You may lose your heated steering wheels in that case!
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Yikes, now the lead story on Jalopnik

The Acura TLX Fools You Into Thinking It's In Park So It Can Roll Away
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Ya gotta love headlines that only tell part of the truth. I say that because so many people never read the articles but only headlines. The headline should state that "...the stop-sale issue on some of their V6 offerings" is on some cars, not all.
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TLX V6 - don't do it!

nebula: I'm one of the [un]lucky folks with an Acura TLX SH-AWD V6, so I will be affected by this transmission problem. I found out about this issue while researching if anyone else is suffering from the reason why my new TLX (one week old) is *right now* in my dealer's service dept. because of a faulty tail light assembly. I had the misfortune of buying a 2003 TL Type-S in Nov 2002, a car that became well-known for its transmission problems. It was on its fourth transmission (grant it, it had almost 250K miles) when I traded it in for this TLX. This is my 4th Acura vehicle, but it'll be my last. I honestly wish I would've gotten a Lexus or something else, because when I get my new TLX back with the fixed tail light assembly, it'll soon be back at the dealer because here we go again with the transmissions. (And in the meantime, I won't be parking my TLX on any inclines....oops...my driveway has an incline....hmmmm). *Sigh*.
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nebula: I'm one of the [un]lucky folks with an Acura TLX SH-AWD V6, so I will be affected by this transmission problem. I found out about this issue while researching if anyone else is suffering from the reason why my new TLX (one week old) is *right now* in my dealer's service dept. because of a faulty tail light assembly. I had the misfortune of buying a 2003 TL Type-S in Nov 2002, a car that became well-known for its transmission problems. It was on its fourth transmission (grant it, it had almost 250K miles) when I traded it in for this TLX. This is my 4th Acura vehicle, but it'll be my last. I honestly wish I would've gotten a Lexus or something else, because when I get my new TLX back with the fixed tail light assembly, it'll soon be back at the dealer because here we go again with the transmissions. (And in the meantime, I won't be parking my TLX on any inclines....oops...my driveway has an incline....hmmmm). *Sigh*.


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Originally Posted by justnspace
then, your car wasnt affected.

its a certain VIN range.
Well, it turns out I am affected. They cannot release my car without inspecting and replacing the tranny first. And they are still waiting for instructions from Acura. No timeline given.

I do not want this one, so I decided to go with one that is clear of the recall. Unfortunately, it's no longer basque red pearl. I went with Silver Slate instead.

I'm actually happy I changed the colour as although the red is georgous, it only looks best under sunlight. On overcast days, it looks like plain old burgundy. At least with the silver, it looks great under any condition
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Acura and transmission issues. Shocking lol. Been there, and definitely can relate.
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Picked up my new TLX on Dec 12th, and the dealer says nothing about it. I called today, and they still act like it's not big deal and they don't have all the info, but they don't think my car is part of the recall.
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ok, so I can't edit my responses yet since I am new, but Dec 12 = Dec 4th.
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I called my dealer today, and my vin number is effected. They are waiting to see, and I was told I will get a call tomorrow.
Just like the old Audis back in the 80's.
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I called my dealer today, and my vin number is affected. They are waiting to see, and I was told I will get a call tomorrow.
Just like the old Audis back in the 80's.
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I looked mine up on https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/ and it popped up with the recall, so guessing my is as well. My dealer is supposed to call me back as well.. Will see how long that takes.
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Originally Posted by Tonyware
Also for those you are thinking of buying a TLX in Canada in the next few months, read this before you do:

Canada-U.S. price gap complaints could soon trigger investigations - Politics - CBC News

Prices may come down since it is pretty hard to justify higher prices in Canada for the same product whose half the parts actually come from Canada.

Hang on to your PAWS (lol), things are about to change...
Trust me, nothing is going too change anytime soon. Try this:
Canadian TLX Premium is C$34,990
US TLX DCT Base is U$30,996

Exchange rate today is 0.874, and applied to the US price the equivalent Canadian would be $35,463 so the car is actually cheaper in Canada.

The prices will remain consistent over the next year, and if the exchange rate improves the deal may not seem as good.
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I took my TLX to the Service Department today to resolve a factory paint defect on the trunk lid. Acura and I finally came to a mutual agreement on how the matter would be handled. Also wanted them to deal with a passenger side puddle light that has stopped functioning and perform the software update from the campaign.


My VIN is on the list for the recall. Oddly, last week I started to notice an unusual characteristic begin to appear when I put it in park. It either coasted forward a bit or back a bit when I took my foot off the brake pedal. I'm use to this occurring a little bit in any car at times, but the first time it happened it was far enough for me to start reaching for the brake pedal with my foot.


My guess is that these "coasts" of the transmission are putting stress on the pawl gear which eventually succumbs to metal fatigue. I'll be using the parking brake consistently until Acura begins addressing the recall. Just a thought, but how hard would it be to create a software option that allowed for the application of the parking brake when it's placed in park automatically?
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Originally Posted by Quandry
Trust me, nothing is going too change anytime soon. Try this:
Canadian TLX Premium is C$34,990
US TLX DCT Base is U$30,996

Exchange rate today is 0.874, and applied to the US price the equivalent Canadian would be $35,463 so the car is actually cheaper in Canada.

The prices will remain consistent over the next year, and if the exchange rate improves the deal may not seem as good.
...I agree, and they offer features on Canadians to make the A/B comparison a bit more difficult and less relevant.
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My guess is that these "coasts" of the transmission are putting stress on the pawl gear which eventually succumbs to metal fatigue. I'll be using the parking brake consistently until Acura begins addressing the recall. Just a thought, but how hard would it be to create a software option that allowed for the application of the parking brake when it's placed in park automatically?
I originally thought this may be the case, since the bouncing seemed pretty exaggerated when parking compared to my 3G TL, but when you read the recall, it says there was a "contamination" during manufacturing. So unless that "contamination" during manufacturing is causing the bouncing... I don't know. It'll be interesting to see if my car behaves differently when parking with the new(er) transmission. I doubt it, though. I'd be ecstatic if it did since it's about the only thing about the car that annoys the heck out of me. Of course I've been using the parking brake since to alleviate the bounce and not roll away (oh noes! lol). Still loving the car otherwise, though.
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
You may lose your heated steering wheels in that case!
Thats ok. If its anything like the seat warmers on the 4G TL, it will be useless below -30oC lol.


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