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Old 09-23-2017, 12:40 PM
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2018 TLX -A-SPEC - can Acura meet the demand?

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I am sure Montreal doesn't represent NA but still it's one of the largest cities in Canada. I have seen many, many TLX A-SPEC in my city but only ONE non A SPEC so far. How does it make sense? A-SPEC is a lot more expensive but also can Acura meet the demand? That could be one of the factors that the new TLX sales isn't very impressive. I am 100% sure the dealers don't have only A-SPECS. But it seems like people are going only after that model. Just to give you an example, last Sunday I saw two black A-SPECS within 16 KMs. I drive daily to work but not seeing any non A-SPECS make me worried. lol

Any observations from your side in other NA cities?
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Well I am at MTL and I can tell you that I saw more A-SPEC at dealers than on the road...
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There's a whole lot more question on if the demand can meet the supply.
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Well I am at MTL and I can tell you that I saw more A-SPEC at dealers than on the road...
Fair enough. I didn’t visit any dealer yet in the island of Montréal.
But i have seen a lot of A-SPECS on the road. The first non A-SPEC, I saw was yesterday close to Orange Julep.
I was just curious to get others opinion.
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Guys,

I am sure Montreal doesn't represent NA but still it's one of the largest cities in Canada. I have seen many, many TLX A-SPEC in my city but only ONE non A SPEC so far. How does it make sense? A-SPEC is a lot more expensive but also can Acura meet the demand? That could be one of the factors that the new TLX sales isn't very impressive. I am 100% sure the dealers don't have only A-SPECS. But it seems like people are going only after that model. Just to give you an example, last Sunday I saw two black A-SPECS within 16 KMs. I drive daily to work but not seeing any non A-SPECS make me worried. lol

Any observations from your side in other NA cities?
How interesting, I too have only seen 2 black Aspecs in MTL. I really want to see a blue one. Non Aspecs are rare, only one black one so far. Makes little sense since they're cheaper.
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How interesting, I too have only seen 2 black Aspecs in MTL. I really want to see a blue one. Non Aspecs are rare, only one black one so far. Makes little sense since they're cheaper.
And even if we have a 2.4L A-SPEC. Weird. ..... well maybe less so when we see it priced at $44K CA.

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Guys,

I am sure Montreal doesn't represent NA but still it's one of the largest cities in Canada. I have seen many, many TLX A-SPEC in my city but only ONE non A SPEC so far. How does it make sense? A-SPEC is a lot more expensive but also can Acura meet the demand? That could be one of the factors that the new TLX sales isn't very impressive. I am 100% sure the dealers don't have only A-SPECS. But it seems like people are going only after that model.
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How interesting, I too have only seen 2 black Aspecs in MTL. I really want to see a blue one. Non Aspecs are rare, only one black one so far. Makes little sense since they're cheaper.
My guess as to why you're seeing more A-Specs on the road:

- non A-Spec trims are bland/boring looking and blend in easily with the rest of the bland/boring looking cars on the road
- A-Spec trims stand out more therefore you notice them
- shoppers are turned off by the new grille, but the A-Spec kit helps to make up for it so people are buying those more
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Guys,

I am sure Montreal doesn't represent NA but still it's one of the largest cities in Canada. I have seen many, many TLX A-SPEC in my city but only ONE non A SPEC so far. How does it make sense? A-SPEC is a lot more expensive but also can Acura meet the demand? That could be one of the factors that the new TLX sales isn't very impressive. I am 100% sure the dealers don't have only A-SPECS. But it seems like people are going only after that model. Just to give you an example, last Sunday I saw two black A-SPECS within 16 KMs. I drive daily to work but not seeing any non A-SPECS make me worried. lol

Any observations from your side in other NA cities?
in the Tampa Bay Area of Florida I have seen no 2018 TLXs on the road
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Here in Southern Cali, according to Cargurus, we have 8 SHAWD Aspecs for sale compared to 106 Aspec FWD. I stopped in my local dealership today and the salesperson was impressed that I have a AWD. Seems like they're sticking with the traditional allocation and not acknowledging that the ASpec SHAWD is the car folks want to buy. For Acura's sake I hope they come to their senses. Believe it or not finding an Advance SHAWD is also a difficult proposition. According to Cargurus there are only 7 for sale in all of Southern Cali.

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we service the Honda Factory accounts in north TX... weve had close to 50 Apec and Aspec SHAWD TLX's come in over the past couple weeks.
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I have yet to see a 2018 TLX in the Cincinnati Ohio area. Drove up and back to Chicago for a week; did not see any on the road, or in Chicago. Only ones I saw was at a Acura dealership up there on our way to Six Flags amusement park.
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Have not seen a single 2018 here in the East Bay Area
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I've seen zero on the road. But at my dealer today to get my oil changed and I walked the lot. They have all colors and versions pretty much. Inside they had a blue with red interior and mutiple on the lot. I sat in it and I will say the red leather was very comfortable. But the interior head unit just seems old. But it was very familiar as all the buttons and switches felt like my current TSX and past TL. There's really very little learning curve moving to new acura models. And that is sometimes not good.
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Have not seen a single 2018 here in the East Bay Area
Nothing on the peninsula or North Bay either, but I've seen a ton of 2015-2017 models around these parts.
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Nothing on the peninsula or North Bay either, but I've seen a ton of 2015-2017 models around these parts.
Same here. Not one. Strange. I don't mind though. Better than seeing 20+ 2017 Touring/Sport Accords daily which some have compared to the TLX. . .
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Same here. Not one. Strange. I don't mind though. Better than seeing 20+ 2017 Touring/Sport Accords daily which some have compared to the TLX. . .
Based on who I see driving the TLX around here, I'm not surprised the new one hasn't resonated. The front just looks too aggressive for conservative tastes.
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in the tampa bay area of florida i have seen no 2018 tlxs on the road
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I did a fair bit of driving yesterday and saw five: three A-Specs (one with Washington plates) and two facelift 2018s. Fortunately none were red. When I went downtown (parked on Robson Street, a busy shopping and dining area) to have ramen with the family in the afternoon, we returned to the car to find a young couple checking out the car and admiring the colour. The guy said to me, “wow, that’s a nice looking car!”
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I live in NY/ tri state area, one of the largest populated areas in the USA and I have not seen any 2018 TLX Aspec, although I have seen 3 for sale on a recent visit to a an Acura dealer.
A lot of Q50, 3 series, A4's and C class. I am glad so this can give Acura a wake up call, in my opinion, there are lots of better cars out there than the TLX. Acura is doing really good with RDX/MDX and hopefully they do something to their sedan lineup.
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Originally Posted by Robs252
in the Tampa Bay Area of Florida I have seen no 2018 TLXs on the road
I live in Tampa as well and have seen 2 White A-Specs on the Veteran's. It could have been the same car on separate days though. I'm keeping my eyes open and going to buy end of year or when 2019 comes out. I'm just looking for the A-Spec FWD at under 40K and prefer my total out the door at 40K. I have time so can wait out the dealership.
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Originally Posted by Si_jeff
I live in NY/ tri state area, one of the largest populated areas in the USA and I have not seen any 2018 TLX Aspec, although I have seen 3 for sale on a recent visit to a an Acura dealer.
A lot of Q50, 3 series, A4's and C class. I am glad so this can give Acura a wake up call, in my opinion, there are lots of better cars out there than the TLX. Acura is doing really good with RDX/MDX and hopefully they do something to their sedan lineup.
I agree with A4s, C class and 3 series but not Q50s. In Canada, Q50/60 sale isn’t impressive at all. Last month, TLX sold more than Q50/60 combined.
Even in the USA, Q50/60 Sales aren’t wow. Very close to TLX. C classs and A4s are insane. I see them like left, right and center lol.
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On that note, related to the topic. I appreciate everyone’s feedback. I guess Montréal is special

i just came from car wash and saw another A-Spec the red interior looks good.
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I'm outside of Boston, and haven't seen any TLX A-Specs on the road but there are quite a few at the dealers in the area.
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I guess A-Spec is more popular in Montréal
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Around here in the NY/NJ area I've only seen 1 2018 TLX (with the new grill but non a spec) out there. I've seen no A - Specs "in the wild" besides my own. The guy who sold me my car told me that the the demand is outpacing the supply for the A-Spec (this is after he sold me the car on the day of pick up). Although, these are the words of a salesperson.
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since the car came out I only saw one plain white tlx and just yesterday one blue a-spec on the road. but the dealer has plenty more then 20 a-specs in stock and I've driven 3000 miles already. I believe the dealers will be willing to negotiate
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I'm outside of Boston, and haven't seen any TLX A-Specs on the road but there are quite a few at the dealers in the area.
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Hi,
I am also from Montreal, go at the dealer ( in my case Acura Metropolitain ) and you will see that there is a lot of TLX in stock, A-Spec or not as it is not available in 4 or 6 cylinders. And will all issues i have with mine (TLX SH-AWD 2016) not surprising that they have problem selling them. The 2 you have seen were problably the sale director and the service director that got them as part of their benifit. LOL

They still have 2017 in stock. As for me Acura is dead, never again.
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Originally Posted by Tardym
Hi,
I am also from Montreal, go at the dealer ( in my case Acura Metropolitain ) and you will see that there is a lot of TLX in stock, A-Spec or not as it is not available in 4 or 6 cylinders. And will all issues i have with mine (TLX SH-AWD 2016) not surprising that they have problem selling them. The 2 you have seen were problably the sale director and the service director that got them as part of their benifit. LOL

They still have 2017 in stock. As for me Acura is dead, never again.
That's my dealership, the ones that acknowledged the 2015 as being bad and yet said pay up for new one lol. They seemed pissed when I mentioned discount, have fun storing them now ....

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Hi,

Happy to see that i am not the only one having issues with this dealership. The sales manager ( Kim ) does not care at all for the clients, the sale is close, live with your problems. LOL . I had an appointment with him to discuss the vibration issues as requested by Acura Canada. The half an hour he booked with me was so unplaisant, he was taking his cell call every 2 minutes, very un-profesionnal. I will never, ever recommand that dealer to my wrost ennemy. Audi is opening less than a kilometer from them, that will probably kill them ... LOL
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I"ve seen 1 non-Aspec in the Northern Atlanta metro area. I have seen about 5 Aspecs in the last 2 months. The interior just doesn't match the aggressive exterior for me. I barely ever see Q50's. Just the same 2 that are in my town and one of those is parked one block away in my neighborhood. lol
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Happy to see that i am not the only one having issues with this dealership. The sales manager ( Kim ) does not care at all for the clients, the sale is close, live with your problems. LOL . I had an appointment with him to discuss the vibration issues as requested by Acura Canada. The half an hour he booked with me was so unplaisant, he was taking his cell call every 2 minutes, very un-profesionnal. I will never, ever recommand that dealer to my wrost ennemy. Audi is opening less than a kilometer from them, that will probably kill them ... LOL
Thanks for mentioning the new Audi Anjou dealership, did not know!!!! Awesome news for my servicing lol

As for Kim, that POS told me I was a "number one client", and told his co-POS employee Tho (only one authorized to sell Aspecs ...) to give me a good deal. Tho mentioned he'd call me back the next day, never did. Took a phone call from relations asking about my experience to force them to call me back. After speaking to Kim, Tho's best deal was $1500 off my lease, that's it. I said no and that I'd be heading to Audi for a test drive. Tho wanted to know when I'd call him back, left him a blank. They're dead to me too.

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I see 2018 TLXs everywhere in Cleveland, but I haven't seen another A-Spec except at the dealer.
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We have 2 dealers in the Triangle, population about 2 million. Combined inventory 13 A-Spec (all V6) out of 88 total 2018 TLX model year cars.
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Originally Posted by Si_jeff
I live in NY/ tri state area, one of the largest populated areas in the USA and I have not seen any 2018 TLX Aspec, although I have seen 3 for sale on a recent visit to a an Acura dealer.
A lot of Q50, 3 series, A4's and C class. I am glad so this can give Acura a wake up call, in my opinion, there are lots of better cars out there than the TLX. Acura is doing really good with RDX/MDX and hopefully they do something to their sedan lineup.
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I'm outside of Boston, and haven't seen any TLX A-Specs on the road but there are quite a few at the dealers in the area.
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Around here in the NY/NJ area I've only seen 1 2018 TLX (with the new grill but non a spec) out there. I've seen no A - Specs "in the wild" besides my own. The guy who sold me my car told me that the the demand is outpacing the supply for the A-Spec (this is after he sold me the car on the day of pick up). Although, these are the words of a salesperson.
Originally Posted by jyrtl
since the car came out I only saw one plain white tlx and just yesterday one blue a-spec on the road. but the dealer has plenty more then 20 a-specs in stock and I've driven 3000 miles already. I believe the dealers will be willing to negotiate
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I see 2018 TLXs everywhere in Cleveland, but I haven't seen another A-Spec except at the dealer.
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We have 2 dealers in the Triangle, population about 2 million. Combined inventory 13 A-Spec (all V6) out of 88 total 2018 TLX model year cars.
The A-Spec price wise is at the upper end of TL pricing. I also have not seen another on the road other than mine in 3 months on the east coast.. To me that is a good thing. I have seen two non-A-spec 2018 in the past 3 months. The non A-Spec models will always sell many more just on price. I hope the volumes stay low. The good thing is the resale value will stay high and me having bought the blue which is overall (outside of people here) is a rare color and down the road the market will be good when you eventually want to move on from it. I had a silver type S but the blue Type S today is the most sought after version and commands the most on the used market. Lets hope things stay that way. Most people buying are not going to spend the extra for an A-Spec but down the road it will hold more value than the other models as in the used car market the A-Spec will be a tougher find and command more than the more common models. Anyway I could be wrong but I suspect the market will be very solid with the ratio of the trims sold in 2018/19.
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Originally Posted by Tardym
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I am also from Montreal, go at the dealer ( in my case Acura Metropolitain ) and you will see that there is a lot of TLX in stock, A-Spec or not as it is not available in 4 or 6 cylinders. And will all issues i have with mine (TLX SH-AWD 2016) not surprising that they have problem selling them. The 2 you have seen were problably the sale director and the service director that got them as part of their benifit. LOL

They still have 2017 in stock. As for me Acura is dead, never again.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts...I like your sales and service directors analogy. Acura isn't dead for me I like the price to quality and reliability ratio!

I don't need 400HP or F1 handling. I am pretty happy with my 4G and will continue driving it for a while before switching to the next Acura (MDX or TLX). If one day I am richer, then I will buy/lease a C63 or M4
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The problem in Canada is there's no competition here. There are like four big auto groups and they own most of dealership. Good luck getting a good deal, especially on a well selling car which Acura doesn't even have. They know we don't have options here so why would they deal. They will throw you a bone and that's it. US is a totally different story. Dealers actually have to compete for businesses.
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I guess A-Spec is more popular in Montréal
I believe so I've seen 3 2018 TLXs, 2 were A-spec SH-AWD.



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