My car got impounded
#1
My car got impounded
Got clocked at 160 just a couple hours ago on the 401 headed east bound past Morningside. Dammit I'm so pissed! License suspended + car impounded for 7 days. To top it all off the cop told me to expect to pay near $1500 for the impound fee due next week! FUUUUUUU-- what to do what to do
#4
Good luck! Are you ever allowed to drive again--after how long?
How much does insurance increase, like example mine is $40/month, would it double or something (wallet = Ouch!).
Been speeding 15 years, haven't been caught yet, but also haven't been north of ~105. You are a braver man than I.
How much does insurance increase, like example mine is $40/month, would it double or something (wallet = Ouch!).
Been speeding 15 years, haven't been caught yet, but also haven't been north of ~105. You are a braver man than I.
#5
He's talking 160kph. I'd get a paralegal ASAP. Your insurance will become high risk. In Toronto you're looking at $600-800/month for insurance. You can buy a new compact car every year with that kind of insurance. I know people paying $10K/year for insurance since they are high risk. I would never go past 130 around the GTA.
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mksliao (03-17-2012)
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#8
vtec kicked in yo.
No but seriously it was 3am on the 401 there wasn't a car in sight. I usually cruise around 120-130 but once in a while I step on it and this time there was an OPP lurking in the collectors to catch it.
I have to attend trial in May, for possible conviction of "Stunt Driving - Excessive Speeding". How could a lawyer help me here? I figure if I'm speeding, I'm guilty and that's that. I don't want to pay the lawyer a shit ton of money only for the same result to happen. I'm thinking my only chance is if the Justice of Peace goes easy on me being a student and stuff.
No but seriously it was 3am on the 401 there wasn't a car in sight. I usually cruise around 120-130 but once in a while I step on it and this time there was an OPP lurking in the collectors to catch it.
I have to attend trial in May, for possible conviction of "Stunt Driving - Excessive Speeding". How could a lawyer help me here? I figure if I'm speeding, I'm guilty and that's that. I don't want to pay the lawyer a shit ton of money only for the same result to happen. I'm thinking my only chance is if the Justice of Peace goes easy on me being a student and stuff.
#9
My husband's last ticket was for 150 in a 55 ... apparently he was racing an undercover cop or whatever. hiring a lawyer def did help..he was facing jail time and lots and lots of fines, (not his first offense). They couldn't take his license since it was an out of state one but he was banned from driving in NC until he got an NC license...anyway, long story short the lawyer kept him out of jail & in exchange for a few hours of community service dropped the 150 to a 74, keeping him less than 20 over .. it still sucks on our insurance premium but at least he's still insurable. Some plans will cancel u
#10
My husband's last ticket was for 150 in a 55 ... apparently he was racing an undercover cop or whatever. hiring a lawyer def did help..he was facing jail time and lots and lots of fines, (not his first offense). They couldn't take his license since it was an out of state one but he was banned from driving in NC until he got an NC license...anyway, long story short the lawyer kept him out of jail & in exchange for a few hours of community service dropped the 150 to a 74, keeping him less than 20 over .. it still sucks on our insurance premium but at least he's still insurable. Some plans will cancel u
#12
happened to me on the 401 as well when i was still driving my rsx. no the fees for the impound is not going to reach 1500 dollars. but its roughly around 50/100 per night, it depends on the company. they are going to charge you a towing fee as well. i had to pay 700dollars total to get my car out.
youre lucky youre close to home, im from ottawa and was pulled over at cobourge or whatever.
if you get convicted of racing/stunting it may be in your criminal record.
i got away with a "slap on the wrist" after spending 1,100 on a lawyer (student price) 700 on impound fee, and got the minimal fee of 1000 dollars. 200 on reinstating fees for license. so 3grand total, and that was a "slap on the wrist".
no charges were made towards me, simply because i had no following incidents on my record. but it may be helpful to speak with an x-copper or lawyer.
youre lucky youre close to home, im from ottawa and was pulled over at cobourge or whatever.
if you get convicted of racing/stunting it may be in your criminal record.
i got away with a "slap on the wrist" after spending 1,100 on a lawyer (student price) 700 on impound fee, and got the minimal fee of 1000 dollars. 200 on reinstating fees for license. so 3grand total, and that was a "slap on the wrist".
no charges were made towards me, simply because i had no following incidents on my record. but it may be helpful to speak with an x-copper or lawyer.
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azeezp13 (03-13-2012)
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x-coppers
Stunt Driving Ticket Ontario Explained
Actions that are considered to be Stunt Driving in Ontario:
• Driving at a rate of speed that is higher than 50km/hr over the posted limit
• Driving without care and attention to the road or without reasonable care for the safety of others
Other examples of Stunt Driving in Ontario:
• Preventing another car from passing without reason
• Stopping or slowing your car in a manner that interferes with the movement of the cars behind you
• Completing Donuts (circular motions with your car)
• Driving your car in a position that is not seated in the driver's seat
• Driving with passengers in your trunk
• Improper turns
Ontario Stunt Driving Law - Is Stunt Driving Criminal?
HTA 172(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway in a race or on a bet or wager.
The Fine and Penalty in Ontario
• A fine between $2000 to $10,000
• Imprisonment for a term of 6 months
• License Suspension for 7 days
• Vehicle Impoundment for 7 days
check this out..
http://www.nopointstraffictickets.co...FY0BQAod-AKGaA
Stunt Driving Ticket Ontario Explained
Actions that are considered to be Stunt Driving in Ontario:
• Driving at a rate of speed that is higher than 50km/hr over the posted limit
• Driving without care and attention to the road or without reasonable care for the safety of others
Other examples of Stunt Driving in Ontario:
• Preventing another car from passing without reason
• Stopping or slowing your car in a manner that interferes with the movement of the cars behind you
• Completing Donuts (circular motions with your car)
• Driving your car in a position that is not seated in the driver's seat
• Driving with passengers in your trunk
• Improper turns
Ontario Stunt Driving Law - Is Stunt Driving Criminal?
HTA 172(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway in a race or on a bet or wager.
The Fine and Penalty in Ontario
• A fine between $2000 to $10,000
• Imprisonment for a term of 6 months
• License Suspension for 7 days
• Vehicle Impoundment for 7 days
check this out..
http://www.nopointstraffictickets.co...FY0BQAod-AKGaA
#19
Here goes my experience, we all make mistakes and you got caught. Shitty deal, but face the consiquences and pay it.
I was an idiot with 2 cars 3.5 years ago and only one was insured. Well guess who got caught one day driving the uninsured car home from the mechanic!! ME!! well long story short. Tags were expired too. I told the cop as soon as he came up to the window that this car wasnt insured. He took my info and came back in 30 mins. Told me he appreciated my honesty and asked if I had CAA. I did and he called for a tow and told me ( I know that when you get home with CAA you will not drive this car again ) I said of course.
So I got a summons to appear in court for the ticket. In canada the no insurance charge is 5000 min first offence. All said and done after court fees, etc etc its about 6700. My lawer costed me 750 and I didnt have to step foot in a court. 5 months after it occured I got a letter from the court of justice saying my fine was 1880. So a total of like 2600. PLUSSS
My insurance cancelled me and I had to go to high risk. Ended up paying 570 a month for 3 years!!!. As of one month ago I have a clean record again and now pay 252 full coverage for my 07 type S
I Fawked up and so did you, best thing to do is call and talk to a few lawyers, they will all tell you different things. You need to decide which one you think will give you the best bet.
My court hearing got pushed back 3 times because my lawyer waited for a good judge he knew to be on the stand. Luckily it worked in my favour
Proud to say im a very good driver now and all legal. Its not worth the extra money you will be paying now. That one night of speeding is now going to cost you roughly an extra 15,000 - 20,000 over the next 3 years with insurance.
So, was it worth it??
For me it wasnt, and id never do it again EVER
I was an idiot with 2 cars 3.5 years ago and only one was insured. Well guess who got caught one day driving the uninsured car home from the mechanic!! ME!! well long story short. Tags were expired too. I told the cop as soon as he came up to the window that this car wasnt insured. He took my info and came back in 30 mins. Told me he appreciated my honesty and asked if I had CAA. I did and he called for a tow and told me ( I know that when you get home with CAA you will not drive this car again ) I said of course.
So I got a summons to appear in court for the ticket. In canada the no insurance charge is 5000 min first offence. All said and done after court fees, etc etc its about 6700. My lawer costed me 750 and I didnt have to step foot in a court. 5 months after it occured I got a letter from the court of justice saying my fine was 1880. So a total of like 2600. PLUSSS
My insurance cancelled me and I had to go to high risk. Ended up paying 570 a month for 3 years!!!. As of one month ago I have a clean record again and now pay 252 full coverage for my 07 type S
I Fawked up and so did you, best thing to do is call and talk to a few lawyers, they will all tell you different things. You need to decide which one you think will give you the best bet.
My court hearing got pushed back 3 times because my lawyer waited for a good judge he knew to be on the stand. Luckily it worked in my favour
Proud to say im a very good driver now and all legal. Its not worth the extra money you will be paying now. That one night of speeding is now going to cost you roughly an extra 15,000 - 20,000 over the next 3 years with insurance.
So, was it worth it??
For me it wasnt, and id never do it again EVER
#21
@noober: how fast were you caught going in the rsx?
@wojo1988: your situation was worse than mines! which lawyer did you go with if you don't mind me asking?
i'm still torn on getting a lawyer though. i don't think a paralegal could help me enough to warrant the expense. I already have to cough up $1100 to the towing company just to get my car back, dropping another gino for a lawyer is gonna be hard! i'm a full-time student i don't got money like that. i'm hoping best case scenario right now is I meet with prosecutor prior to trial to see if they'd be willing to drop the speeding rate to 149 or something. that way i just get like a $300 speeding ticket and demerit points.
#22
Damn, you guys have it tough up there. If i had to pay $6-7k for insurance per year, I'd just give up driving for a while. I was caught doing 85mph a few years back, but the cop wrote me up for 75mph. Anyways, the ticket only came out to $150 and I did some traffic school.
Going 90mph and over on public roads is just ridiculous.
Going 90mph and over on public roads is just ridiculous.
#23
OP, get a paralegal. xcopper or pointts is what i'd suggest.
What will pretty much happen is...
-you or the paralegal will file for a court-date (usually 14 days from when you got the ticket is the limit)
-you or them will request disclosure in writing
-you or them will possibly request further disclosure on means how you were clocked, calibration of radar etc etc or request for the officers notes to be typed due to being "unreadable"
-hope that disclosure doesnt come in time so you can get your first trial postponed
-pray that it takes long enough for your re-trail so you to file an 11b(which might not happen for such a charge); most likely the ticket will be reduced however.
For such charge i'd say get a paralegal 100% if you are not familiar with the ticket fighting process/have never done it before.
#25
160 KM/H not mph.
#26
i was going 162.. lol. like you it was about 3am-ish, there was no car in sight so i just upped the speed, and before i knew it.. there was a crown vic chasing after me.. and holy fuck are those things fast! I'm going 162 flying by and them from a stop caught up quick!
i believe if you get charged for the "Crime" its a 12 point penalty with all the retarded charges they throw in.. might even get a criminal record for "endangering".
Stupid law IMHO. It does more harm to people financially then it does good for people on the road.
I was left in cobourge, stranded basically. Since Im from Ottawa and was traveling to GTA, i was 3hours away from home and an hour away from my destination. I had to get my friend to come pick me up. I asked the officer what am I suppose to do here? Say i had no cash or something and everything was closed. She gave me a "i duno" look and just left. PLUS, I HAD to pay for a lawyer to attend my court dates, because they would be at 8am, and Im in Ottawa..
I had to drive down to pick up my car at the end of the week aswell. lesson well learnt!
i believe if you get charged for the "Crime" its a 12 point penalty with all the retarded charges they throw in.. might even get a criminal record for "endangering".
Stupid law IMHO. It does more harm to people financially then it does good for people on the road.
I was left in cobourge, stranded basically. Since Im from Ottawa and was traveling to GTA, i was 3hours away from home and an hour away from my destination. I had to get my friend to come pick me up. I asked the officer what am I suppose to do here? Say i had no cash or something and everything was closed. She gave me a "i duno" look and just left. PLUS, I HAD to pay for a lawyer to attend my court dates, because they would be at 8am, and Im in Ottawa..
I had to drive down to pick up my car at the end of the week aswell. lesson well learnt!
#29
you dont need to go through a lawyer, all the lawyer will do is either delay court dates (which you can file on your own) and then plead guilty (which you can do as well). just make a request for disclosure to see what the cop had written.. and if there was 2 cops in the vehicle.. the both of them have to be in court that day or else the worship will throw your ticket out the window (this is becoming very unlikely because they get paid OT just for showing up). most likely the prosecutor will offer you a deal. at the end of the day if you feel a lawyer can help you for the price you gonna pay $600+ then go for it.
#30
lol how are you supercharged and never go over 120? I guess if you don't I really don't have any excuses to be either
@noober: how fast were you caught going in the rsx?
@wojo1988: your situation was worse than mines! which lawyer did you go with if you don't mind me asking?
i'm still torn on getting a lawyer though. i don't think a paralegal could help me enough to warrant the expense. I already have to cough up $1100 to the towing company just to get my car back, dropping another gino for a lawyer is gonna be hard! i'm a full-time student i don't got money like that. i'm hoping best case scenario right now is I meet with prosecutor prior to trial to see if they'd be willing to drop the speeding rate to 149 or something. that way i just get like a $300 speeding ticket and demerit points.
@noober: how fast were you caught going in the rsx?
@wojo1988: your situation was worse than mines! which lawyer did you go with if you don't mind me asking?
i'm still torn on getting a lawyer though. i don't think a paralegal could help me enough to warrant the expense. I already have to cough up $1100 to the towing company just to get my car back, dropping another gino for a lawyer is gonna be hard! i'm a full-time student i don't got money like that. i'm hoping best case scenario right now is I meet with prosecutor prior to trial to see if they'd be willing to drop the speeding rate to 149 or something. that way i just get like a $300 speeding ticket and demerit points.
Actually your ticket is a major and falls under the same category as mine. Do you have any prior tickets on your record?? Any criminal past or anything to do with the cops in the past.
UNFORTUNATELY the 50 over is a new law and they dont budge on it at all really. In Canada they take it very seriously and am pretty positive that you will not get it lowered.
However, no matter what anyone says, GET A LAWYER!!! do not do this on your own. TRUST ME!
You will be charged with careless driving and or street racing and the only thing the judge might budge on is the fine price. Min fine is 5000 as it was for mine and mine got lowered to 1880.
This charge will appear on your record and it will be a difficult time finding insurance for you. I was 20 aswell when mine happened and lets just say i regret it sooo much.
Best of luck with everything and I hope it turns out in your favour. Just be prepared for the associated high costs of driving for the next 3 years. As I said approx 15 - 20gs out the door because of this
Im not trying to make you feel bad, im just trying to tell you how it is up here and there is no point to sugar coat it and lie to you.
#31
Honestly I cant remember the lawyers name, but I will see if I can dig it up tommorow. ALSO go to atleast 3 different lawyers and hear what they can offer to do for you first!! before you choose one.
If you need further assistance shoot me a pm with your number and ill send you a text
If you need further assistance shoot me a pm with your number and ill send you a text
#32
you dont need to go through a lawyer, all the lawyer will do is either delay court dates (which you can file on your own) and then plead guilty (which you can do as well). just make a request for disclosure to see what the cop had written.. and if there was 2 cops in the vehicle.. the both of them have to be in court that day or else the worship will throw your ticket out the window (this is becoming very unlikely because they get paid OT just for showing up). most likely the prosecutor will offer you a deal. at the end of the day if you feel a lawyer can help you for the price you gonna pay $600+ then go for it.
The reasoning!!
Lawyers are in local courts alot and they become familiar with the judges and how they act and what not. If your lawyer goes into court and sees a bad judge that is strict he will reschedule the hearing.
finding the right lawyer will help you out alot because even some lawyers and judges are friends and familiars, which actually does help because it could put the judge in a good mood.
The only shitty thing about the dates getting pushed back further is that once you pay the set fine given after your trial is done, then it goes on your record and from that date you have 3 or however many years your ticket will be. Thankfully mine was 3 years, it happened in oct 2008 and was settled in court feb 2009. Just came off my record in Feb 2012.
#33
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I had a very similar thing happen to me...
I was in the CHATHAM region. Got booked going 158 trying to pass people who won't let me in the lane. My car and all my documents were [and still are] from Montreal.
Impound and towing fee cost me $856.73.
I hired a paralegal at Pointts, which cost me 1800 bucks at student price [rip off much?].
When I went to court on my own, before hiring a paralegal, the officer who charged me was never there. I went twice on my own. I was told by my paralegal that cops don't have to appear in court anymore and that whole "if the cop doesn't show it's an auto-win" is false. Or maybe that just applies to OPP.
I'd go with what everyone else is saying. DO NOT fight this on your own. This is a major offence... every year they get more strict on the 50-over-law.
IF you fight it on your own, try to delay and rebook it for as long as you can. I believe that's what happened to me, it took me nearly two years to fight my case. I never set foot into the court room after the first two times so I can't say for sure what happened... But I'm confident that I got off the ticket due to constant delaying of the court summons.
I was in the CHATHAM region. Got booked going 158 trying to pass people who won't let me in the lane. My car and all my documents were [and still are] from Montreal.
Impound and towing fee cost me $856.73.
I hired a paralegal at Pointts, which cost me 1800 bucks at student price [rip off much?].
When I went to court on my own, before hiring a paralegal, the officer who charged me was never there. I went twice on my own. I was told by my paralegal that cops don't have to appear in court anymore and that whole "if the cop doesn't show it's an auto-win" is false. Or maybe that just applies to OPP.
I'd go with what everyone else is saying. DO NOT fight this on your own. This is a major offence... every year they get more strict on the 50-over-law.
IF you fight it on your own, try to delay and rebook it for as long as you can. I believe that's what happened to me, it took me nearly two years to fight my case. I never set foot into the court room after the first two times so I can't say for sure what happened... But I'm confident that I got off the ticket due to constant delaying of the court summons.
#34
had the same thing happen to me last year around this time. 160 km/h on the 400. send me a pm and if you're willing to come up to newmarket. i went with a guy up here that got the ticket over and done with in 4-5 months for a charge of 750 after tax. he was able to get the complete charge against me withdrawn. so in total i was in 750 for my impound fee (ask the tower if he can take cash, might drop it down a 100 or so) and 750 for my paralegal. most people were expecting much worse, but this guy always pulls through for me.
#36
OP you should have thought of your consequence when you drove 160kph on the 401. I applaud the O.Dot Constable that stop you and charged appropriately. Now go to court with or without a lawyer and take whatever punishment is adjudicated to you. Maybe this will make you think twice of driving at such a high speed of rate that could cause an accident and hurt you or someone else. That's why it's not worth breaking the law as it will cost you time and money.
#37
This is where you can quench your thirst for speed...
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