Why Men and Women Can't be friends
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Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
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I was friends with a female coworker and then we hooked up... After we hooked up, I hooked up with a girl that she was mentoring... They both found out about each other, went out, got completely drunk and hated me until I hooked up with them again (at different times).
Turns out, the first girl and I are still great friends. We had sex for a few months and got it out of our system and now we have an even stronger friendship.
Turns out, the first girl and I are still great friends. We had sex for a few months and got it out of our system and now we have an even stronger friendship.
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i think they can be friends just not best friends. i used to have a girl best friend. she ended up wanting to be more than just friends but i wasn't attracted to her. had to break the friendship because she got jealous of my gf's and would tell them lies.
#14
No for me but for a different reason, actually. I've tried a few times in the past to be friends with a few women. I did kind of set up mental boundaries because they each did have boyfriends and I knew full well they were off-limits. However I came across as the fucking couples' counselor all the time. She always wanted to know why he wasn't IMing her when "he knows full well I'm online" why he was being overly generous ("was he hiding something? I BET HE'S CHEATING") why he was doing this, that, etc. etc. btw this wasn't the same girl each time.
I can't be friends with girls because they feel that since I'm also a guy that I'm qualified to deal with the ass-end of all their couples drama.
I can't be friends with girls because they feel that since I'm also a guy that I'm qualified to deal with the ass-end of all their couples drama.
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Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
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No man should ever trust a woman who fakes her orgasim in front of him !!
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
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No man should ever trust a woman who fakes her orgasim in front of him !!
#19
Since when were friendship and sexual attraction mutually exclusive?
I missed that guy memo, I guess.
I think a guy can be friends with girls, even those he is attracted to sexually as long as [the potential for] sex is not a major reason to hang out with her.
Some women are actually fun or enjoyable to talk with and be around, even if I don't want to (or can't: in my case, I'm committed) have sex with them.
I missed that guy memo, I guess.
I think a guy can be friends with girls, even those he is attracted to sexually as long as [the potential for] sex is not a major reason to hang out with her.
Some women are actually fun or enjoyable to talk with and be around, even if I don't want to (or can't: in my case, I'm committed) have sex with them.
Last edited by Will Y.; 12-11-2011 at 01:13 PM.
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Some of the anecdotes make me wonder if some guys are completely incapable of forming actual friendships. How shallow are they with their male friends? Are they drinking buddies? People to leech off of?
In other words, it's all about them, male or female.
In other words, it's all about them, male or female.
#21
This is kind if rediculous. So basically these men are saying that they can't (or won't) be friends with women they find attractive unless they can hook up with them? Really?
Friendship and attraction are not dependent on eachother. You can be friends and attracted, friends and not attracted, not friends and attracted, or not friends and not attracted. All combinations exist just fine.
And I'll let these college kids in on a little secret. They are going to have to learn to co-exist with women they find hot without any chance of something happening. They'll work with them, or FOR them, at some point.
Friendship and attraction are not dependent on eachother. You can be friends and attracted, friends and not attracted, not friends and attracted, or not friends and not attracted. All combinations exist just fine.
And I'll let these college kids in on a little secret. They are going to have to learn to co-exist with women they find hot without any chance of something happening. They'll work with them, or FOR them, at some point.
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I don't think they're saying they won't.
I think there is some level of attraction. Maybe it's built into us men as an evolutionary survival method. But being attracted and hooking up is totally different. Am I attracted to some of my co-workers? Sure. Will I be hooking up with them? Don't think so. Doesn't mean that I can't do my job as I should. Its kind of that little voice wayyy in the back of my head so that if the siutation presents itself, I'd accept it.
I think there is some level of attraction. Maybe it's built into us men as an evolutionary survival method. But being attracted and hooking up is totally different. Am I attracted to some of my co-workers? Sure. Will I be hooking up with them? Don't think so. Doesn't mean that I can't do my job as I should. Its kind of that little voice wayyy in the back of my head so that if the siutation presents itself, I'd accept it.
#23
I think the insinuation here is that a friendship has to be platonic, and I don't necessarily disagree, hence the JUST friends. I am fully capable of forming friendships with people I am not attracted to, dudes, family, ... um... That's about it. I have worked with many girls (cute and not so much) when I was a server and was completely capable of performing my job, letting them perform theirs, and promoting a positive and productive work environment. Does that mean that in the back of my mind I wasn't thinking about the possibilty of a physical relationship? No.
The key here is that a friendship should be unconditional. Your friend should be able to rely on you for whatever they need, and your motive for helping them should be a pure desire to help, not improve the probability that an intimate encounter may occur. I think that as long as a guy has a physical attraction to a female counterpart, sooner or later his actions will be driven by his unmanageable desire to procreate. It's hormonal. It's not an incapability to have feelings or be social; it's an instinctual result of the way that we have been built for the last million years.
Can a man and woman be just friends? Sure, but he is going to have to be completely and utterly void of physical attraction to her. And the only real chance I see of this happening is if he is gay. Otherwise, there would have to be something that attracts him to her in the first place, such as her personality, and chances are those feelings will only grow into a physical attraction. The drive of a species to survive is orders of magnitude larger than any idea that we can ignore it to mold our social interactions accordingly.
For those saying that it can happen or that if it can't, something is wrong, I think you are missing the "just" part. Just friends means that both sides see it that way and that neither side has a desire to change it.
The key here is that a friendship should be unconditional. Your friend should be able to rely on you for whatever they need, and your motive for helping them should be a pure desire to help, not improve the probability that an intimate encounter may occur. I think that as long as a guy has a physical attraction to a female counterpart, sooner or later his actions will be driven by his unmanageable desire to procreate. It's hormonal. It's not an incapability to have feelings or be social; it's an instinctual result of the way that we have been built for the last million years.
Can a man and woman be just friends? Sure, but he is going to have to be completely and utterly void of physical attraction to her. And the only real chance I see of this happening is if he is gay. Otherwise, there would have to be something that attracts him to her in the first place, such as her personality, and chances are those feelings will only grow into a physical attraction. The drive of a species to survive is orders of magnitude larger than any idea that we can ignore it to mold our social interactions accordingly.
For those saying that it can happen or that if it can't, something is wrong, I think you are missing the "just" part. Just friends means that both sides see it that way and that neither side has a desire to change it.
Last edited by oo7spy; 12-21-2011 at 11:00 AM.
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On another note, there seems to be a fair number of good looking Aggies in this video. I don't know if this was a purposeful selection and not indicative of the true ratio on Utah State's campus, but it is leading me to question if there are more cute Aggies there than on the campus of my Alma mater.
#26
It would be pretty funny if there was at least one role reversal in that video. Like maybe they interview some guy who's friends with a girl. He's not attracted to her but she's always dripping when she's around him.
#31
^they got jealous and they probably considered you at one point or still or another
i found this video gave me some lulz
anyways
i'm friendzoned of this girl i was trying to get with because "doesn't want a boyfriend" mode. I think she legitly is in that zone but still sucks ass i want to fuuuuug
i found this video gave me some lulz
anyways
i'm friendzoned of this girl i was trying to get with because "doesn't want a boyfriend" mode. I think she legitly is in that zone but still sucks ass i want to fuuuuug
Last edited by DC2many; 01-11-2012 at 04:08 PM.
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I can't think of a girl I've met in the past that I was attracted to and was available (i.e. no boyfriend, not married) that I haven't made a move on a.s.a.p. before ending up on the friend ladder.
I'm still friends with some of these girls that things didn't work out with for whatever reason
I'm still friends with some of these girls that things didn't work out with for whatever reason
#37
Needing to screw and thinking of screwing are two different things. I think the idea here is that a girl won't screw her friend who's a guy. But if that guy friend will screw her, then it isn't mutual.
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