Waiting to kiss before marriage
06-21-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl
I didn't actually say I was offended. The point was that you are obviously not someone that is close to me in any way if you use that terminology.
Maybe you missed it too.
Believe me, I'm not that thin skinned.
In English we use "woman", or "lady", or "chick" or"bimbo" or even "bitch". All these infer that we actually are familiar with the person/gender we speak of, not like the unfamiliar or textbook term "female".
There was no stupid soap box. Just knowledge of the language and how we hear it.
By the way young man, that was cute, but you could almost be my son.
Maybe you missed it too.
Believe me, I'm not that thin skinned.
In English we use "woman", or "lady", or "chick" or"bimbo" or even "bitch". All these infer that we actually are familiar with the person/gender we speak of, not like the unfamiliar or textbook term "female".
There was no stupid soap box. Just knowledge of the language and how we hear it.
By the way young man, that was cute, but you could almost be my son.
06-21-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CUNextTuesday
Hey kabota, how would you know if she has a dick? 
honeymoon night
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i have the same thing how cool!! so where do i put it in?"
06-21-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vetalik
honeymoon night
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i have the same thing how cool!! so where do i put it in?"No...that should read more like:
Bride: I have the same thing how cool!! So where do i put it in?
Kabota: Huh?
Bride: Let's flip for it! I tell you what...head if I win, tail if you lose! Deal?
Kabota:
06-21-2008, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl
By the way young man, that was cute, but you could almost be my son.
06-22-2008, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Seriously...just curious...is there anyone else here male or female, 21 or older, who hasn't kissed yet? 
You get amnesty if you come forth now! :surrender
God help you if you tell us later in a thread...
You get amnesty if you come forth now! :surrender
God help you if you tell us later in a thread...
But to the OP...seriously man you need to sort this shit out. I come from a medical family and what I'm hearing here is a clean-cut case of obsessive compulsive disorder. I'd seek help. Just my
. I say live and let live and I'm not bashing your views. I'm just saying it's pretty out in left field there. Good luck to you.
06-22-2008, 06:56 AM
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my beliefs do play a role in every decision I make
Nobody told you that Jesus was a psychopath? Geeez, what do they teach in school these days.
06-22-2008, 10:52 AM
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Why Nice Guys Finish Last
Are you a nice guy who has always wondered why the cocky guy -- the one who barely appears interested in the girl -- is usually the one who gets the girl?
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
More:http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/si...xhc3QEenoDYQ--
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
More:http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/si...xhc3QEenoDYQ--
06-22-2008, 11:31 AM
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I can never do the nice thing right. Whenever I met a girl who I think wants a nice guy it turns out she wants an asshole, and whenever I met a girl who I think wants an asshole she wants a nice guy. Thats a hard science to get down.
Thats a hard science to get down.
06-22-2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
I can never do the nice thing right. Whenever I met a girl who I think wants a nice guy it turns out she wants an asshole, and whenever I met a girl who I think wants an asshole she wants a nice guy. Thats a hard science to get down.
Thats a hard science to get down.
06-22-2008, 12:27 PM
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Prior to meeting my now wife, I was pretty much an asshole to most women. Seems if you are too friendly, you dont get what you really want.
06-22-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
Are you a nice guy who has always wondered why the cocky guy -- the one who barely appears interested in the girl -- is usually the one who gets the girl?
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
More:http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/si...xhc3QEenoDYQ--
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
More:http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/si...xhc3QEenoDYQ--
06-22-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 03bl AC k CL
I hear you. I've dealt with the struggle several times. Finally i settled on being myself. Being yourself is the best, as it helps to weed out the girls that you won't be able to deal with (for booty calls or relationships). You don't want the headache of an incompatible girl it just inconveniences your life, unless it's a definite one night stand then who cares.
06-22-2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PortlandRL
Tentatively raises hand...But believe me it's not by choice. I seem to get like the girls who rip hearts out. I've found a real cutie though and she seems nice.
But to the OP...seriously man you need to sort this shit out. I come from a medical family and what I'm hearing here is a clean-cut case of obsessive compulsive disorder. I'd seek help. Just my. I say live and let live and I'm not bashing your views. I'm just saying it's pretty out in left field there. Good luck to you.
But to the OP...seriously man you need to sort this shit out. I come from a medical family and what I'm hearing here is a clean-cut case of obsessive compulsive disorder. I'd seek help. Just my
. I say live and let live and I'm not bashing your views. I'm just saying it's pretty out in left field there. Good luck to you.
06-22-2008, 02:15 PM
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It's not so much about being nice or an asshole, as it is about being a challenge. Giving them something they didn't have before. Intriguing them. A confident man, not a needy man, with a sense of humor and knows how to treat/handle a woman. A leader.
What she doesn't want is a follower that hinges on her every word. Sprung. Guys that will do anything so that they don't lose her. It is a weakness that women spot a mile away. You may pay the rent or buy the groceries, but you will never be the face in that dream that leaves her gasping for breath. Women need nice guys, but they want the bad boys. The guys with the edge, that don't need them. That stir both their hearts and vaginas like coffee!
To me true leadership is an innate quality. You either have it or you don't. Yeah, it can be manufactured or learned behaviour. But the guy who you see sweeping the girl off her feet - that mofo probably had it all along. Sometimes it has to be awakened in you, tapped into. But I believe that true leaders are natural-born.
Now, he can be arrogant, but that can't be his claim to fame. If you are an absolute asshole, you do not want a woman that wants you anyway - she's an idiot!
Me, I'm a leader natural-born. Not saying it out of cockiness (though it is there). I'm also a bad boy. But I know how to be nice to them. I know how to talk to them, and make them laugh. I won't kiss their ass tho, and I am willing to leave because my life does not revolve around them. Love if I'm loved, I always say. I'm that confident, leader guy I described above...but I am also single.
That life has spoiled me. Having women willing to do so much for you, just about anything will make you that way. It has also made it very difficult for me to compromise. Because of my expectations, I don't give ground easy, and it makes it difficult for me to keep someone. Trust issues come into play as well because you are not sure why they want to be with you. Someone that may have been good for me could have been discarded. So, I have many, but I don't have any.
So don't rain on the nice guy. He just needs to man up. While me, I don't feel I need wholesale change...not going to...but I probably could be a little "nicer"...
What she doesn't want is a follower that hinges on her every word. Sprung. Guys that will do anything so that they don't lose her. It is a weakness that women spot a mile away. You may pay the rent or buy the groceries, but you will never be the face in that dream that leaves her gasping for breath. Women need nice guys, but they want the bad boys. The guys with the edge, that don't need them. That stir both their hearts and vaginas like coffee!
To me true leadership is an innate quality. You either have it or you don't. Yeah, it can be manufactured or learned behaviour. But the guy who you see sweeping the girl off her feet - that mofo probably had it all along. Sometimes it has to be awakened in you, tapped into. But I believe that true leaders are natural-born.
Now, he can be arrogant, but that can't be his claim to fame. If you are an absolute asshole, you do not want a woman that wants you anyway - she's an idiot!
Me, I'm a leader natural-born. Not saying it out of cockiness (though it is there). I'm also a bad boy. But I know how to be nice to them. I know how to talk to them, and make them laugh. I won't kiss their ass tho, and I am willing to leave because my life does not revolve around them. Love if I'm loved, I always say. I'm that confident, leader guy I described above...but I am also single.
That life has spoiled me. Having women willing to do so much for you, just about anything will make you that way. It has also made it very difficult for me to compromise. Because of my expectations, I don't give ground easy, and it makes it difficult for me to keep someone. Trust issues come into play as well because you are not sure why they want to be with you. Someone that may have been good for me could have been discarded. So, I have many, but I don't have any.
So don't rain on the nice guy. He just needs to man up. While me, I don't feel I need wholesale change...not going to...but I probably could be a little "nicer"...
06-22-2008, 03:02 PM
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Well like my other thread Ive known her from 7th grade.. I always thought she wanted a bad boy so i was a total deusch but showed hints of niceness and she has always said ur so mean but lately shes like uve been nicer because u have been trying to be nice...
She says she doesnt want a ahole and why would she..... But is that really the case.. Ive let down my defenses and started to slowly turn into that nice guy again but im beginning to think thats a BIG NO NO lol..
She says she doesnt want a ahole and why would she..... But is that really the case.. Ive let down my defenses and started to slowly turn into that nice guy again but im beginning to think thats a BIG NO NO lol..
06-22-2008, 05:49 PM
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Hmm, this a feisty thread where every post gets dissected beyond recognition.
And to the person, who responded with the owned icon, how stupid are you?
Nevertheless, I come from a strong European background where women are cherished, and elders are respected. I promise I will not make any jokes in this thread again
Gypsygirl
And to the person, who responded with the owned icon, how stupid are you?
Nevertheless, I come from a strong European background where women are cherished, and elders are respected. I promise I will not make any jokes in this thread again
Gypsygirl
06-22-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
That life has spoiled me. Having women willing to do so much for you, just about anything will make you that way. It has also made it very difficult for me to compromise. Because of my expectations, I don't give ground easy, and it makes it difficult for me to keep someone. Trust issues come into play as well because you are not sure why they want to be with you. Someone that may have been good for me could have been discarded. So, I have many, but I don't have any.
...But last week I think I found the one... She is a cool girl, beautiful, smart, ambitious and totally accepts my weirdness, lol... I appreciate her every second. I've been hanging out with her for a week, and we still haven't made out... Just innocent pecks/kisses...and the craziest thing, I'm ok with that....this is new to me, lol.Just wait for the one, you'll be in heaven.
To the OP.....again...I still have no comment.
06-22-2008, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
I totally understand you. Past 3 years I've been completely selfish, girls came and went... ...But last week I think I found the one... She is a cool girl, beautiful, smart, ambitious and totally accepts my weirdness, lol... I appreciate her every second. I've been hanging out with her for a week, and we still haven't made out... Just innocent pecks/kisses...and the craziest thing, I'm ok with that....this is new to me, lol.
Just wait for the one, you'll be in heaven.
To the OP.....again...I still have no comment.
...But last week I think I found the one... She is a cool girl, beautiful, smart, ambitious and totally accepts my weirdness, lol... I appreciate her every second. I've been hanging out with her for a week, and we still haven't made out... Just innocent pecks/kisses...and the craziest thing, I'm ok with that....this is new to me, lol.Just wait for the one, you'll be in heaven.
To the OP.....again...I still have no comment.
Yup thats the best and when you wait and finally get it you appreciate it more..
Its the best if you had a bit of shitty relationships or lacking of a certain something.. When you finally get it is much better.
to the op.. wtf is wrong with you.. not wanting to kiss are you scared.. I promise you it isn't that bad .. you might... actually... enjoy ... it?
06-22-2008, 09:15 PM
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Great. Now he's loose.
Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Hmm, this a feisty thread where every post gets dissected beyond recognition.
And to the person, who responded with the owned icon, how stupid are you?
Nevertheless, I come from a strong European background where women are cherished, and elders are respected. I promise I will not make any jokes in this thread again
Gypsygirl
And to the person, who responded with the owned icon, how stupid are you?
Nevertheless, I come from a strong European background where women are cherished, and elders are respected. I promise I will not make any jokes in this thread again
Gypsygirl
06-22-2008, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
Alright So this was on my home page today and I thought of this thread. Random facts about kissing.
8. The average woman kisses 29 men before she gets married.
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.asp...id=6>1=26000
Its never to late to play catch up. I understand what you want to do but its going to be hard.
8. The average woman kisses 29 men before she gets married.
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.asp...id=6>1=26000
Its never to late to play catch up. I understand what you want to do but its going to be hard.
06-22-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
dang
. Anyways yes nice guys do finish last I've talked to many girls about that topic young girls want a badass like someone who smokes pot and has a tattoo. And for waiting to kiss till your married what? I understand some people waiting till marriage for sex but kissing this is new to me.
06-22-2008, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SRK85
HAHA at least its not the average girl sucks 28 dicks before marriage . Anyways yes nice guys do finish last I've talked to many girls about that topic young girls want a badass like someone who smokes pot and has a tattoo. And for waiting to kiss till your married what? I understand some people waiting till marriage for sex but kissing this is new to me.
. Anyways yes nice guys do finish last I've talked to many girls about that topic young girls want a badass like someone who smokes pot and has a tattoo. And for waiting to kiss till your married what? I understand some people waiting till marriage for sex but kissing this is new to me.
06-22-2008, 11:16 PM
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06-22-2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
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06-22-2008, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
We scared him anyway. 
This has been the strangest thread I've seen.
Maybe I should tell him that after 15 years of marriage he can go back to no kissing and no sex all over again, so do it now while he can.
:wink:
j/k
06-22-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
If he had any sense he's stay away too.
This has been the strangest thread I've seen.
Maybe I should tell him that after 15 years of marriage he can go back to no kissing and no sex all over again, so do it now while he can.
:wink:
j/k
This has been the strangest thread I've seen.
Maybe I should tell him that after 15 years of marriage he can go back to no kissing and no sex all over again, so do it now while he can.
:wink:
j/k
06-23-2008, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
If he had any sense he's stay away too.
This has been the strangest thread I've seen.
Maybe I should tell him that after 15 years of marriage he can go back to no kissing and no sex all over again, so do it now while he can.
:wink:
j/k
This has been the strangest thread I've seen.
Maybe I should tell him that after 15 years of marriage he can go back to no kissing and no sex all over again, so do it now while he can.
:wink:
j/k
06-23-2008, 07:43 AM
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A nice guy is different from a pushover. I don't know why so many people often equate the two. Sadly because of this, some guys pretend to be someone they are not and act like dicks.
06-23-2008, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sasha
A nice guy is different from a pushover. I don't know why so many people often equate the two. Sadly because of this, some guys pretend to be someone they are not and act like dicks.
I think it's a slipery slope to try and generalize what "all women want". It does vary a bit, and clearly men in general have a hard time figuring it out.
My
on what women want: the guy who will act in her best interests, ahead of his own (but also expects - and gets - the same from her). The guy who will stand between her and the world and say, "no harm shall come to her without coming through me first.". That to me is the interesction of the nice guy and the tough guy. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a woman that would not highly value that in a man.
06-23-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sasha
A nice guy is different from a pushover. I don't know why so many people often equate the two. Sadly because of this, some guys pretend to be someone they are not and act like dicks.
I was a pushover for some chicks, and nice to mosts. I was a total dick for about a year. That was a good year.
