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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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social class

how much does it matter to you?

could you date a rich girl? a super poverty stricken poor girl?

or could you be in a serious relationship with one?

i'm just curious how much of an impact social class has on our decisions.

personally, i would date a poverty stricken girl who met my physical criteria and had the potential for intellectual growth and social adaptation... but, lol, that's asking a lot - i'm just speaking generally...
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 04:44 AM
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IMO its not really that big of an issue. The only thing that fucks it up sometimes is the difference in customs, which of course could also be caused by things like race. As long as the person is up to my standards on an intellectual and physical level, class wouldn't really be a big thing. I wouldn't date someone who was too poor to upkeep their hygiene though :vomit:
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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if the girl is too poor, she might be all crazy about teh $$$ u got in your pocket cuz there's so much that she wants to buy to sate her complex about being poor. if she too rich then she too used to being able to buy whatever she wants. middle class = the best IMHO because they know that the money don't fall off of trees and they're sensible about buying stuff..
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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there has been studies done that as a whole, human beings are attracted to similar human beings. what i mean is that people couple with others who are pretty close in economic status, social status, looks, health, etc.

there are of course people in relationships that are vastly different from each other, but that is pretty rare if you were to compare them to every relationship.

im sure you can find studies on this on but im too lazy.

now whether you would or could date someone different from yourself; i am sure the answer will be yes. love transcends class lolz.
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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I dated a poor girl once. It was really awkward because she had nothing and her family had nothing. How is she going to understand when I blow $300 on component speakers and her family can't afford to pay the water bill. I felt like an asshole for having a few bucks and some cash to spend once in a while... when every dollar of her paycheck was paying bills.
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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It matters to me alot. I'd definitely go up, but never down. If its just a little difference, no biggie. But if the chick is in poverty, fuck that. Too many variables...too many differences education wise, ethics wise, etc etc. It doesn't work out in the end. Plus if you marry her, you're marrying her family also. Big mistake. Plus total income is very, very important.
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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what rezurex said
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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here is a pretty (long) good article:

http://psychology.about.com/cs/attra...a/attract4.htm
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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and here is the really long original cornell study:

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/100/15/8805
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wipe0ut
here is a pretty (long) good article:

http://psychology.about.com/cs/attra...a/attract4.htm
very interesting

doing rather than saying... 50% divorce rate, lol.
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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It is kind of humbling when you date a broke chick, most of the time you end up feeling sorry for her and spending all kinds of money on her and trying to help her family out till she starts expecting it and you start resenting it, and behind your back her family and friends call you, Big Cheif Save-a-Ho from the Shugah Dadeh tribe.
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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I dated a poor girl before, definately was very awkward. Like Beetroot said, its very hard for her to understand when you are blowing money on "luxuries" and she is just trying to get by
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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i have dated the poor i guess you could say im still looking for a super hot rich girl so she can buy me an r34.... class dosent mean shit to me. they are ethier cool or there not
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Waddy
It is kind of humbling when you date a broke chick, most of the time you end up feeling sorry for her and spending all kinds of money on her and trying to help her family out till she starts expecting it and you start resenting it, and behind your back her family and friends call you, Big Cheif Save-a-Ho from the Shugah Dadeh tribe.
so true
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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I've never dated anyone outside of my social class, only guys within the same or higher class.

But I think I would rather date a poor guy who is sweet and a gentleman, than a rich guy who is a complete asshole.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 04:19 AM
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i went out with a rich girl who was shallow and crazy materialistic. and i went out with this girl from a trailer park....but she acted like she was. the class the girls in reflects on her personality. but yea, the rich girl lasted a week but damn was it good
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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It really depends I think because there are poor people with aspirations and then there are rich people who still understand the value of money. Being a good person (meaning decent as well as someone who is fun to hang out with) doesn't depend on social status.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Rice?
It matters to me alot. I'd definitely go up, but never down...
Are you you sure you're attracted to women or are you attracted to the social standing that you believe you'll acquire from dating a chick on your rung of the ladder or higher. That answer smacks of something you'd hear from guys like Jim McGreevey who look to marriages as a way to advance their social rank or to confer the appearance of normalcy to their own image. It reminds me of a gay guy I used to work with who said that he got married - even though he knew he was gay - because it seemed like an appropriate thing for someone in his position to do.

Honeslty, I'm surprised that a stragiht guy would answer this way. Education, intelligence, or emotional stability may matter, but wealth hardly matters at all.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Are you you sure you're attracted to women or are you attracted to the social standing that you believe you'll acquire from dating a chick on your rung of the ladder or higher. That answer smacks of something you'd hear from guys like Jim McGreevey who look to marriages as a way to advance their social rank or to confer the appearance of normalcy to their own image. It reminds me of a gay guy I used to work with who said that he got married - even though he knew he was gay - because it seemed like an appropriate thing for someone in his position to do.

Honeslty, I'm surprised that a stragiht guy would answer this way. Education, intelligence, or emotional stability may matter, but wealth hardly matters at all.
I don't need the girl for social standing, if thats what you're implying. I've dated girls of lower social status and there are too many differences in ethics, desires, views of the world, etc. and she wasn't even in poverty...Just a lower social class. I'm not going through that bullshit again.

If I'm going through all this crap with medschool and becoming a doctor, I atleast want someone of the same class who can understand my ideals about life and have the exposure to the lifestyle I'll be living. Aka...presentable and worldly. A girl coming from poverty is more than likely not going to be able to do that. Soo...

I want the trophy wife...but maybe thats just me. Upbringing is just too important.

Make no mistake...wealth and education are closely tied. You can't say coming from a poor family will have the same emotional impact as say someone coming from a rich family. It just isn't true...Money becomes a huge problem and is looked upon differently. Just one of many other factors.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Oh yea...don't lie Geisha, you said yourself you like someone who can afford you.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Oh yea...don't lie Geisha, you said yourself you like someone who can afford you.

lol but that is the keyword my dear like I don't NEED someone that can afford me. I get all the LV, Tod's, Prada etc that I want without my man needing to break the bank so its not a big deal to me. It is nice to get gifts, but I'm not trying to have someone buy me like a whore

I see where you're coming from about the lower class bitch though, I remember talking to you about that very situation. IMO you did the right thing manggg
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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lol but that is the keyword my dear like I don't NEED someone that can afford me. I get all the LV, Tod's, Prada etc that I want without my man needing to break the bank so its not a big deal to me. It is nice to get gifts, but I'm not trying to have someone buy me like a whore

I see where you're coming from about the lower class bitch though, I remember talking to you about that very situation. IMO you did the right thing manggg
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GeishaGirl
lol but that is the keyword my dear like I don't NEED someone that can afford me. I get all the LV, Tod's, Prada etc that I want without my man needing to break the bank so its not a big deal to me. It is nice to get gifts, but I'm not trying to have someone buy me like a whore :
its good to know there are females like you still out there points for you girlie =)
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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its good to know there are females like you still out there points for you girlie =)

awwww thanks!
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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What I need is a rich bitch.

I've never ahd a girl trick on me before like ever, I've have always been Mr. provider. It would be nice one of these days to be taken care of, you know more than some boxers or a cute t-shirt she saw at the thrift store. I want a woman that will get me some nice shit even when it isn't my birthday or Xmas.

Closest i ever came was when I dated this chick from a rich family my senior year of college, she graduated the year before and was working, had her own townhouse and Lexus RX at 23. She never tricked on me but we exchanged gifts that we both would really want like:

Me to Her: A nice big-ass wall mirror for her living room
Her to Me: An Eddie Bauer messenger bag, and Kenneth Cole watch

Instead of my last girlfriend where we exchanged gifts like:

Me to her: 4MP digicam (the shit is better than mine!)
Her to me: Linkin Park - Live in Texas DVD

I mean I know she was broke and all that, I didn't bitch about it at the time but I don't get much gifts anymore now that I am a grown ass man. So on the rare occassions when I do get a gift these days I'd like it to be something I really want, or can really use.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Waddy
What I need is a rich bitch.

I've never ahd a girl trick on me before like ever, I've have always been Mr. provider. It would be nice one of these days to be taken care of, you know more than some boxers or a cute t-shirt she saw at the thrift store. I want a woman that will get me some nice shit even when it isn't my birthday or Xmas.

Closest i ever came was when I dated this chick from a rich family my senior year of college, she graduated the year before and was working, had her own townhouse and Lexus RX at 23. She never tricked on me but we exchanged gifts that we both would really want like:

Me to Her: A nice big-ass wall mirror for her living room
Her to Me: An Eddie Bauer messenger bag, and Kenneth Cole watch

Instead of my last girlfriend where we exchanged gifts like:

Me to her: 4MP digicam (the shit is better than mine!)
Her to me: Linkin Park - Live in Texas DVD

I mean I know she was broke and all that, I didn't bitch about it at the time but I don't get much gifts anymore now that I am a grown ass man. So on the rare occassions when I do get a gift these days I'd like it to be something I really want, or can really use.
In my experience guys never appreciate that shit. I showered my last ex's with crap, stereos, ps2's, designer clothing, games, computer shit, little vacations, etc but they still treated me like ass. All I got out of that was a bill at the end of the month and a Probably would have ended up the same even if I didn't pick up the check every time or buy them gifts all the time

For some reason its not like when you give a chick a gift...when a chick gets a gift she is all thankful (if she is a good chick), but when a guy gets a nice gift he acts like hes too proud to take it. Not saying ALL guys, but just the ones I've been with. Best thing is a roughly even exchange IMO.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Your ex boyfriend's were some bitch-ass niggas then.

Excuse my french.

First off I always appreciate any gift I ever get whether I like it or not, and I make sure that the person who gave me the gift doesn't feel like I am dissapointed. I mean unless it's just a insult or an attempt to show me up.

Secondly if they still treated you like ass it was because they were fucking idiots it had nothing to do with your gifts. Some guys are just assholes, unfortunately by being an asshole these cats all got to keep you and the gifts you gave them for however long you were together, meanwhile some nice guy out there who would've cherished your gifts and your company is wacking off every night hoping to meet a girl who appreicates him.

Of course even exchanges are better, but you chicks have to listen. get us what we want, not what YOU think we want or would look cute in. I've had ex's try to force shit on me before and it was all I could do to not look like my dog died when I opened the gift and saw some gay shirt or something instead of the badass Scarface poster I asked for.

Of course there are some guys who just don't beleive in their women spending money on them and get insulted if you buy them something expensive because they feel like you are saying "Hey broke bitch, you can't afford this shit and I am tired of hearing you whine about it so here you go!". I am not one of those guys, if you've got an extra $400 laying around and want to buy me an LCD screen for my computer, shiiiiiiit.........
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Waddy

Secondly if they still treated you like ass it was because they were fucking idiots it had nothing to do with your gifts. Some guys are just assholes, unfortunately by being an asshole these cats all got to keep you and the gifts you gave them for however long you were together, meanwhile some nice guy out there who would've cherished your gifts and your company is wacking off every night hoping to meet a girl who appreicates him.
damn I'm still rollin on the floor laughing at that shit.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Waddy
What I need is a rich bitch.

I've never ahd a girl trick on me before like ever, I've have always been Mr. provider. It would be nice one of these days to be taken care of, you know more than some boxers or a cute t-shirt she saw at the thrift store. I want a woman that will get me some nice shit even when it isn't my birthday or Xmas.

Closest i ever came was when I dated this chick from a rich family my senior year of college, she graduated the year before and was working, had her own townhouse and Lexus RX at 23. She never tricked on me but we exchanged gifts that we both would really want like:

Me to Her: A nice big-ass wall mirror for her living room
Her to Me: An Eddie Bauer messenger bag, and Kenneth Cole watch

Instead of my last girlfriend where we exchanged gifts like:

Me to her: 4MP digicam (the shit is better than mine!)
Her to me: Linkin Park - Live in Texas DVD

I mean I know she was broke and all that, I didn't bitch about it at the time but I don't get much gifts anymore now that I am a grown ass man. So on the rare occassions when I do get a gift these days I'd like it to be something I really want, or can really use.
Hell yes. I paid for EVERY single dinner me and my ex had while we were dating (5 1/2 months)...Never once did we even split it. I even got her gifts for no reason at all or simply because she wanted something and couldn't afford it. Eventually she started taking things for granted and didn't once offer to pick up the bill. I mean, I know how she's broke and all, but fuck...I was living on my own in my own apartment on a shitty part time job while I was applying to med school. She was still living with her rents.

And I love how she used to bitch and moan about how she "was able to guess every X-mas gift I gave her." Well if she didn't want that, then maybe she shouldn't have told me everything she wanted for Christmas. Coulda spent my money elsewhere.

I for one am sick of broke ass hoes...Time to find me someone who can share my lifestyle and not hold me back.
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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i like spending my own money so no one can say shit about it later.

and i buy rather silly things.

like this hose nozzle that looks like a funky bug with attennae and it shoots the water out of its mouth...

ahem..
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joe - you're going to end up with some bitchy fob chick :p
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joe - you're going to end up with some bitchy fob chick :p
Just cause I brought Karina to the CL/Legend BBQ...haha.

Don't forget the one I brought to the Andretti meet though. :blaze:
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Secondly if they still treated you like ass it was because they were fucking idiots it had nothing to do with your gifts. Some guys are just assholes, unfortunately by being an asshole these cats all got to keep you and the gifts you gave them for however long you were together, meanwhile some nice guy out there who would've cherished your gifts and your company is wacking off every night hoping to meet a girl who appreicates him.
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Classes don't matter to me. If the girl is poor so be it. Her ass will still be poor until I marry her. I'll picks up the checks, but gifts? no way. Helping her broke ass out? no way. If I wasn't there she's still have to deal with it. It's her problem. To rich? Isn't a problem either. I'll set ground rules for buying stuff. I don't want anything. But once I marry her, I expect to get my M5 damit!
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Minch00

You're too young for Geisha, you wouldn't what to do with that
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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You're too young for Geisha, you wouldn't what to do with that
Then why is she coming to visit?


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Then why is she coming to visit?


Because she doesn't know that you don't know what to do with her YET!

I give her two days and she'll come begging for Big Daddy Waddy
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Because she doesn't know that you don't know what to do with her YET!

I give her two days and she'll come begging for Big Daddy Waddy
Just because I haven't proven myself doesn't mean I haven't a clue
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Just because I haven't proven myself doesn't mean I haven't a clue
Confidence is good, I retract my statement, looks like the Minch-meister is ready to go. Geisha you better watch out, the boy might blow your back out!



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