Ode To The Nice Guy
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Ode To The Nice Guy
"This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.
This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.
This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.
The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.
So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming." - Anonymous
to the nice guys.
This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.
This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.
The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.
So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming." - Anonymous
to the nice guys.
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Lol, so this is saying that nice guys end up with the worked over whores? These women usually go with the nice guy because they have a stable income. Once married they suck the guy dry and cheat on him.
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Congratulations...the last guy to post a bitch thread like this was Minch, and he was a giant Mangina.
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#11
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
I dislike the implication that good guys are somehow loosers. I've never met a couple that had the kind of 50+ year marriage that others looked upon as a relationship worthy of replicating in their own lives where the husband was a jerk.
When I'm 60, I'd rather be nice and have someone to share my life with than a bad boy with only memories of my youth for company.
#12
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Where is Darksom when you don't need him?
#13
COME AT ME BRO!
Dang, you beat me to that one.
I dislike the implication that good guys are somehow loosers. I've never met a couple that had the kind of 50+ year marriage that others looked upon as a relationship worthy of replicating in their own lives where the husband was a jerk.
When I'm 60, I'd rather be nice and have someone to share my life with than a bad boy with only memories of my youth for company.
I dislike the implication that good guys are somehow loosers. I've never met a couple that had the kind of 50+ year marriage that others looked upon as a relationship worthy of replicating in their own lives where the husband was a jerk.
When I'm 60, I'd rather be nice and have someone to share my life with than a bad boy with only memories of my youth for company.
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Old Man Yelling at Clouds
Nothing to share...I was not married until 23. They were two seperate observations actually. My grandparents were married 72 years, and my other grandma actually had two 30-year marriages (my biological grandpa died when I was young, and step-grandpa passed recently). I also know other couples - one in our church that hit 70 years as well. My only point being is that whenever I see things like that, they are all "good men" (and good women).
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In your post, basically you take a negative view of the whole thing, but you have to remember that 90% of these guys are chasing after that piece of ass which is a complete whore, someone untrustworthy or even a complete idiot. These guys only see the nice side of the picture, that fine body or her looks; essentially all they see is getting in the girls pants the nice way, which doesn't work.
No offense is intended for anyone with the paragraph below!!!!
Being nice does however get you ahead. You skip over all of these whores, the only thing that they can provide is an STD in your relationship. All of this basically means that it'll help you find the right one later on. I can understand being in HS you want to be laid and have a reputation, but honestly would you rather be the guy with a wife that loves you living in a mansion or would you be the guy who has AIDs living with that same trailer trash whore from HS.
While in HS, I had the same thoughts as you but I learned and gathered a positive view and kept on moving forward.
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
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AMAN, from what I see everyday at the high-school I visit, these "nice" guys have it practically set for them.
In your post, basically you take a negative view of the whole thing, but you have to remember that 90% of these guys are chasing after that piece of ass which is a complete whore, someone untrustworthy or even a complete idiot. These guys only see the nice side of the picture, that fine body or her looks; essentially all they see is getting in the girls pants the nice way, which doesn't work.
No offense is intended for anyone with the paragraph below!!!!
Being nice does however get you ahead. You skip over all of these whores, the only thing that they can provide is an STD in your relationship. All of this basically means that it'll help you find the right one later on. I can understand being in HS you want to be laid and have a reputation, but honestly would you rather be the guy with a wife that loves you living in a mansion or would you be the guy who has AIDs living with that same trailer trash whore from HS.
While in HS, I had the same thoughts as you but I learned and gathered a positive view and kept on moving forward.
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
In your post, basically you take a negative view of the whole thing, but you have to remember that 90% of these guys are chasing after that piece of ass which is a complete whore, someone untrustworthy or even a complete idiot. These guys only see the nice side of the picture, that fine body or her looks; essentially all they see is getting in the girls pants the nice way, which doesn't work.
No offense is intended for anyone with the paragraph below!!!!
Being nice does however get you ahead. You skip over all of these whores, the only thing that they can provide is an STD in your relationship. All of this basically means that it'll help you find the right one later on. I can understand being in HS you want to be laid and have a reputation, but honestly would you rather be the guy with a wife that loves you living in a mansion or would you be the guy who has AIDs living with that same trailer trash whore from HS.
While in HS, I had the same thoughts as you but I learned and gathered a positive view and kept on moving forward.
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
Originally Posted by Gnate;
You're 16 bro, don't worry about it, you'll get game eventually.
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Drifting
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
#26
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AMAN, from what I see everyday at the high-school I visit, these "nice" guys have it practically set for them.
In your post, basically you take a negative view of the whole thing, but you have to remember that 90% of these guys are chasing after that piece of ass which is a complete whore, someone untrustworthy or even a complete idiot. These guys only see the nice side of the picture, that fine body or her looks; essentially all they see is getting in the girls pants the nice way, which doesn't work.
No offense is intended for anyone with the paragraph below!!!!
Being nice does however get you ahead. You skip over all of these whores, the only thing that they can provide is an STD in your relationship. All of this basically means that it'll help you find the right one later on. I can understand being in HS you want to be laid and have a reputation, but honestly would you rather be the guy with a wife that loves you living in a mansion or would you be the guy who has AIDs living with that same trailer trash whore from HS.
While in HS, I had the same thoughts as you but I learned and gathered a positive view and kept on moving forward.
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
In your post, basically you take a negative view of the whole thing, but you have to remember that 90% of these guys are chasing after that piece of ass which is a complete whore, someone untrustworthy or even a complete idiot. These guys only see the nice side of the picture, that fine body or her looks; essentially all they see is getting in the girls pants the nice way, which doesn't work.
No offense is intended for anyone with the paragraph below!!!!
Being nice does however get you ahead. You skip over all of these whores, the only thing that they can provide is an STD in your relationship. All of this basically means that it'll help you find the right one later on. I can understand being in HS you want to be laid and have a reputation, but honestly would you rather be the guy with a wife that loves you living in a mansion or would you be the guy who has AIDs living with that same trailer trash whore from HS.
While in HS, I had the same thoughts as you but I learned and gathered a positive view and kept on moving forward.
The only I can give is be nice to everyone. People may shove you, stab you in the back and betray you, however you keep on moving forward. Learn from you mistakes, but still try to help those you can. Granted you won't be rewarded by sex now, you'll be rewarded later in life. Work hard now, play harder later.
#28
Being the nice guy & trying to get some tail at the same time is a waste of effort. I stopped that my junior year of HS, and just decided to let the girls come talk to me, so if it didn't work out, it was them who wasted their time on the "nice guy", not mine.
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GEEZER
#30
Three Wheelin'
Dating girls is all a huge game. Once you figure out how to play it, it becomes so easy it's almost comical. Some figure it out sooner than others.
#33
Three Wheelin'
The hardest part is breaking out of your shell (it was for me). Be rude, be dismissive but at the same time try to win over her friends and always leave on your own terms. Make her feel as if you have something more important to do than stand around and talk to her. Try to appear to be the alpha male of whatever group you're in. Just like how the hottest girl in high school always seems to date the star football player. Then when you know you have her attention, don't screw it by buying her things and becoming nice. Girls always say they want a nice guy, but from what I've learned, they want that dominant asshole that they can later turn into the nice guy. It's a big game. When you find the one that you can see yourself being with and it turns into a relationship, then you can do the mushy stuff that couples do.
The harsh reality is, you're really trying to do is see what the girl is like in bed. Some guys might not agree that it's the best way to go about it. They're also the ones that only get laid a couple times a year and get to listen to girls talk about how much of an asshole their boyfriend is. All the while you're wishing you were him.
#34
One on the right for me
#35
Great. Now he's loose.
...yes...alone.
Speaking of douche... He's still trying.