Gettin the "Best Friend" excuse...
06-15-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxiballer
So true. I used to like this girl. I was cocky, funny, and pretty laid back. Then she started falling for me. But once I started to show interest and being "nicer" her feelings changed. So always be an asshole.
i mean, there's obvious things, not spoiling the shit out of said girl, not wasting ur time listening to sob stories about other dudes,
but what do you guys feel is viable asshole behavior? lol, i woudl imagine telling a girl up front on the first day you meet her: "i want ot make a mess in ur mouth" woudlnt' get u far (unless you're SUPER rich, or super good looking).
06-15-2007, 09:47 AM
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Two ways to win over a broad:
- Have a big dick
- Have a big dick
That helps...
Originally Posted by Pull_T
- Be a big dick
06-15-2007, 04:42 PM
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There is a place between being there everytime a girl wants to unload hear problems on you and being a complete a-hole to them. You can be cool with them without being their sounding board. But, as others have mentioned, you need to let her know that you aren't a eunuch without being rude or too forward.
And, while not entirely common, it is not unheard of to cross from the friend zone into the relationship (or at least hook-up) zone. I can attest to that.
And, while not entirely common, it is not unheard of to cross from the friend zone into the relationship (or at least hook-up) zone. I can attest to that.
06-17-2007, 07:19 AM
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The key is not being an intentional asshole its being a necessary asshole.
Example:
Intentional Asshole: Cancels dates, doesn't give back to the relationship, because he is a selfish prick.
Necessary Asshole: Cancels dates, can't always give as much back to the relationship, because he is working on his career or craft.
Basically put yourself first and do what you need to do, your girl comes second but try to go out of your way to be nice when you can. Be "mean" because you actually are busy or you really do have plans for yourself to hang with your friends because you are stressed not because you want to be an asshole to win her over.
Both "assholes" get girls, one just gets a better quality and better relationships.
Example:
Intentional Asshole: Cancels dates, doesn't give back to the relationship, because he is a selfish prick.
Necessary Asshole: Cancels dates, can't always give as much back to the relationship, because he is working on his career or craft.
Basically put yourself first and do what you need to do, your girl comes second but try to go out of your way to be nice when you can. Be "mean" because you actually are busy or you really do have plans for yourself to hang with your friends because you are stressed not because you want to be an asshole to win her over.
Both "assholes" get girls, one just gets a better quality and better relationships.
07-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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It depends on what your going for.
If your trying to have a meaningful relationship:
Take a step back. Learn her personality, ask her questions about herself and her day etc. Questions are good as not only do you get to know the person and their preferences but they also feel that you actually care. Try to get close with her but you must remain flirty or else you'll get put in the "friend zone". Drop a few hints that you like her, but don't come on too strong. Find out what her sense of humor is and try to make her laugh. Keep this up for a few weeks then ask her out when you feel its right.
Works for me
If your trying to get laid:
Get her drunk or summin'...
If your trying to have a meaningful relationship:
Take a step back. Learn her personality, ask her questions about herself and her day etc. Questions are good as not only do you get to know the person and their preferences but they also feel that you actually care. Try to get close with her but you must remain flirty or else you'll get put in the "friend zone". Drop a few hints that you like her, but don't come on too strong. Find out what her sense of humor is and try to make her laugh. Keep this up for a few weeks then ask her out when you feel its right.
Works for me
If your trying to get laid:
Get her drunk or summin'...
07-18-2007, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JJ4Short
The key is not being an intentional asshole its being a necessary asshole.
Example:
Intentional Asshole: Cancels dates, doesn't give back to the relationship, because he is a selfish prick.
Necessary Asshole: Cancels dates, can't always give as much back to the relationship, because he is working on his career or craft.
Basically put yourself first and do what you need to do, your girl comes second but try to go out of your way to be nice when you can. Be "mean" because you actually are busy or you really do have plans for yourself to hang with your friends because you are stressed not because you want to be an asshole to win her over.
Both "assholes" get girls, one just gets a better quality and better relationships.
Example:
Intentional Asshole: Cancels dates, doesn't give back to the relationship, because he is a selfish prick.
Necessary Asshole: Cancels dates, can't always give as much back to the relationship, because he is working on his career or craft.
Basically put yourself first and do what you need to do, your girl comes second but try to go out of your way to be nice when you can. Be "mean" because you actually are busy or you really do have plans for yourself to hang with your friends because you are stressed not because you want to be an asshole to win her over.
Both "assholes" get girls, one just gets a better quality and better relationships.
I agree with all of this to a certain extent, it really depends on the girl though
07-18-2007, 08:10 AM
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I think we are all in agreement that you are being too nice. Not saying that you need to be an asshole. I think that it takes some time for a woman to decide that this guy is really "nice" and maybe I need to be best friends with him.
Maybe you need to make your intentions known a bit sooner. And if she then comes back and say that she just wants to be friends, at least your feelings are not too strong.
It's not like you're just meeting these women and they make a split second decision that you are their best friend.
Maybe you need to make your intentions known a bit sooner. And if she then comes back and say that she just wants to be friends, at least your feelings are not too strong.
It's not like you're just meeting these women and they make a split second decision that you are their best friend.
07-18-2007, 11:24 AM
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I get the same shit too....
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
07-18-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny--2k
I get the same shit too....
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
07-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny--2k
I get the same shit too....
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
And, I'll raise you one.
This girl I know, and have known for a long time, always introduces me to people as "my brotha from anotha motha" and I fuckin hate it.....then she rants and raves about all the stupid guys she's been with and how their assholes and whatnot, and it just pisses me off.
After she told me how many guys shes been with though, now I could give a flying fuck what happens. She can stay my "sister" for all I care. She's about 4 years younger than me, and she acts like she's 15 sometimes....so I just give her "Brotherly" advice and hope she doesn't catch something!
07-18-2007, 02:17 PM
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One of the main reasons why these girls are constantly referring to you guys as their best friends and not their love/sex interests is because you guys aren't indicating your interest in them early enough.
When you try to "get to know" a girl and ask her a bunch of boring questions about her job/school/philosophy on life, she quickly can (and often does) lose interest (if she had any to begin with). Obviously you have to have a conversation and build rapport if you plan on doing anything with the girl, but don't ask her/tell her boring shit. Have fun! Don't be a needy nervous wreck.
If you're not a guy who uses his sexuality, and his balls, to act on your primal urges... You should start.
Stop masturbating too.
When you try to "get to know" a girl and ask her a bunch of boring questions about her job/school/philosophy on life, she quickly can (and often does) lose interest (if she had any to begin with). Obviously you have to have a conversation and build rapport if you plan on doing anything with the girl, but don't ask her/tell her boring shit. Have fun! Don't be a needy nervous wreck.
If you're not a guy who uses his sexuality, and his balls, to act on your primal urges... You should start.
Stop masturbating too.
07-18-2007, 02:51 PM
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haha.... I'm somewhat of a dick to her, but after 11 guys, and 6 of them within the past year, one with "the clap" and three guys that live in the same house, I am long over "it" now.....I'll stay as her friend because she is still cool to hang out and get hammered with....
Plus, she works at a jewelery store, so I get phatty discounts on things!
Plus, she works at a jewelery store, so I get phatty discounts on things!
07-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny--2k
haha.... I'm somewhat of a dick to her, but after 11 guys, and 6 of them within the past year, one with "the clap" and three guys that live in the same house, I am long over "it" now.....I'll stay as her friend because she is still cool to hang out and get hammered with....
Plus, she works at a jewelery store, so I get phatty discounts on things!
Plus, she works at a jewelery store, so I get phatty discounts on things!
07-18-2007, 04:54 PM
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^ If you do, make sure she completed the course of antibiotics after that exposure to 'the clap' 
Hell ... maybe that's not a good idea, either. Who knows what else is growing 'down there' ... 
Hell ... maybe that's not a good idea, either. Who knows what else is growing 'down there' ...
07-18-2007, 05:19 PM
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she got tested and she was fine, he had the case a while back, but she was pissed because he never even told her about it.
Either way, I'm staying the fuck away from that shit.....end of story.
Either way, I'm staying the fuck away from that shit.....end of story.
07-19-2007, 07:53 AM
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The shitty thing about being on the friends ladder with a girl is that anytime there is a shot with someone else, and she sees you going for it, she will undoubtedly get jealous and try to CB you. At this point is is ok to refer to said friend ladder girl with a heavy sigh as "bitches.."
11-04-2007, 02:25 AM
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shit.
happened to me again lol... hottest girl i know, waited like 1.5 months cuz she just broke up with my good friend and got another all to familiar excuse - dunno if a relationship is something i need right now...
o well... it was probably the weed in me that made me ask
but its sooo damn hard not to when theres such an attraction
and yea... i cant sleep, its 3:30am and am resorting to AP US History homework to make me tired
happened to me again lol... hottest girl i know, waited like 1.5 months cuz she just broke up with my good friend and got another all to familiar excuse - dunno if a relationship is something i need right now...
o well... it was probably the weed in me that made me ask
but its sooo damn hard not to when theres such an attraction
and yea... i cant sleep, its 3:30am and am resorting to AP US History homework to make me tired
11-04-2007, 08:00 AM
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If a girl is not attracted to you, you'll always just be a friend. It doesn't matter if you are the nicest guy or the biggest asshole, if the attraction is not there, nothing is going to happen.
11-04-2007, 05:36 PM
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She's never going to fall for you. You've proven yourself to be the friend type and there's no turning back. She needs a guy to talk to, cause all the other guy's she's with are too busy fucking her and busting in her face. Step up your game and move on to another girl. If you wanna get laid, be an asshole. If you want a relationship, build some confidence.
11-05-2007, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sasha
If a girl is not attracted to you, you'll always just be a friend. It doesn't matter if you are the nicest guy or the biggest asshole, if the attraction is not there, nothing is going to happen.
It's all a bunch of bs which is why there are many many threads on AZ similar to this one.
11-05-2007, 01:58 PM
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^^ very true... it's about attraction... not affection
being nice doesn't make for attraction... there are stories here and there of people who are friends and end up hooking up but there was always a level of attraction there to start with...
that's not to say you should be rude or whatever, but everyone/anyone can tell when someone is 'playing nice' ...
being nice doesn't make for attraction... there are stories here and there of people who are friends and end up hooking up but there was always a level of attraction there to start with...
that's not to say you should be rude or whatever, but everyone/anyone can tell when someone is 'playing nice' ...
11-05-2007, 02:03 PM
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but everyone/anyone can tell when someone is 'playing nice' ...
Most "nice guys" are just being "nice" because they think they can get something out of it. It reeks of desperation and dishonesty and I'm almost positive most above-average girls can sniff it out.
11-06-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Acuraluvr
maybe im just the guy who gets this alot.
"your too good of a friend to risk losing the relationship we have now."
Are there people who are just natural people who are thought of as best friends rather than people girls would date?
i swear, im on good terms with just about every girl i no, but being a friend whos there for them always and those girls dont take me seriously about relationships.
sure i have date and have girlfriends and shit, but when it come to the girls i really wanna be in a relationship with, they keep on tellin me it would mess the great thing that we've got goin.
Sure i say that if we were really great friends that nothing would change that, even if we were in a relationship... But they still dont give me a chance.
does anyone else get this?
"your too good of a friend to risk losing the relationship we have now."
Are there people who are just natural people who are thought of as best friends rather than people girls would date?
i swear, im on good terms with just about every girl i no, but being a friend whos there for them always and those girls dont take me seriously about relationships.
sure i have date and have girlfriends and shit, but when it come to the girls i really wanna be in a relationship with, they keep on tellin me it would mess the great thing that we've got goin.
Sure i say that if we were really great friends that nothing would change that, even if we were in a relationship... But they still dont give me a chance.
does anyone else get this?
That line right there is clearly the most obvious excuse women AND men use when they are not feeling you or attracted to you! I think you should start looking for someone who is either on your level or league and just make sure that the other person is into you as well before you get involved! Most "nice guys" get this line as well as "nice girls"...believe me, I know!
And like that old saying goes, "you always want what you can't get"....Just be smart and focus your time and efforts on someone who is willing to give you that same thing in return! Good luck!
11-06-2007, 12:15 AM
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And just remember not to compromise yourself in order to please a girl! Just be yourself! Don't change for anyone! So, if you are a good and decent guy keep being who you are! Don't become an a$$hole! One day, the right girl will come along and will notice and appreciate you for that! If anything all these missed attempts could be a blessing in disguise! They may be selfish and shallow people and don't deserve a man like you! Don't ever lose sight of that!
11-06-2007, 01:18 AM
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^Damn Nightie, you seem to be on every thread I click on! You got good taste! LOL! Now back to the lecture at hand...
Sasha has a very good point. SOmething that I have learned a long time ago, but it really didn't apply to me: Women love a man with confidence! I am a very confident guy. Not just with women though, in general. To the point that I am considered arrogant at times, in passing perception. Go figure. But in short, with approaching women, I believe that all they can say is no. They aren't going to whip my ass, just say yes or no. Simple as that. I'm a cocksman, and I hunt like a jaguar: Calm, stealth approach, no non-sense, no games and a strong finish!
True story:
I remember there used to be this temp guy named Hernando who worked with me. Now to put this guy's "sex IQ" in perspective, here is a little story about him. He was on a date with this chick. They were old friends. So they had some drinks and went back to his place. He told me he always used to have a crush on this chick but could never let her know it. So he said when they got to his place, they talked a little bit, and she wanted to look at a movie. So he had his fave beat-off porn in the deck, and forgot and turned it on by accident. He was shocked! She was cool, she said leave it on! He blushed and told me he said no! I was like what the fuck??? So anyway, she convinced him to leave it on. So they were sitting there lookig at it, and she starts rubbing his leg. She then started raking her nails enticingly up his thigh. Guess what he asked me? He said, "Do you think she was trying to send me a signal that she wanted to do something?" I damn near stole him in the face for asking me some stupid shit like that!!! I said DUHHHHH!!!!! He said, "Damn! I knew it!" I laughed hard as hell cuz it wasn't just what he said, but the way he said it. Hahahahahahaha!!! I just shook my head man...
Ok, so this guy would see the way I was with the ladies at work, the "rapport or sex talk on the job" I had with them. Some I used to feel up on occassion. So one day, he came over to me and asked me how do I do that. I said do what? he said get with the women like that. Now, it must be said, becuz I do keep it real, that a lot of women on my job were just straight up freaks, not all of them, but a lot. However, nerds need not apply. You feel me? So anyway, i talked to him and told him to just assert himself and BE himself. Just leave that wack Erckle shit out! LOL! He said he can't do that, that he didn't know how.
So I started having him test his confidence on those skeezers at work. Just saying what he felt because they were skeezers and wouldn't slap him...within reason of course, just basic stuff. He couldn't. So I knew the problem was he knew them, and more importantly, THEY KNEW HIM! In other words, he got "Fuck Off" a lot! Hahahahaha! He said see, I can't do it. I started thinking to myself that this might be harder than I thought, but the idea of ME being responsible for another dude geting some ass based on my teaching spurred me on! LOL! Ego shit!
So I gave him an assignment. There was an area near our job where sexy women congregated for lunch. They didn't know him. So I said go over there at lunch time, and just strike up some conversations with at least 10 women (big area so no problem). I told him you are not going for results, just to build up your confidence. I was off that day. So, the next day when I come back to work and ask for a report - he tells me that he was scared, so he didn't go! He transferred shortly thereafter, and I guess by now he has gotten some play.
So hang in there OP! Tough crowd, so just pretend they are naked! LOL!
Now back to the lecture at hand...Sasha has a very good point. SOmething that I have learned a long time ago, but it really didn't apply to me: Women love a man with confidence! I am a very confident guy. Not just with women though, in general. To the point that I am considered arrogant at times, in passing perception. Go figure. But in short, with approaching women, I believe that all they can say is no. They aren't going to whip my ass, just say yes or no. Simple as that. I'm a cocksman, and I hunt like a jaguar: Calm, stealth approach, no non-sense, no games and a strong finish!
True story:
I remember there used to be this temp guy named Hernando who worked with me. Now to put this guy's "sex IQ" in perspective, here is a little story about him. He was on a date with this chick. They were old friends. So they had some drinks and went back to his place. He told me he always used to have a crush on this chick but could never let her know it. So he said when they got to his place, they talked a little bit, and she wanted to look at a movie. So he had his fave beat-off porn in the deck, and forgot and turned it on by accident. He was shocked! She was cool, she said leave it on! He blushed and told me he said no! I was like what the fuck??? So anyway, she convinced him to leave it on. So they were sitting there lookig at it, and she starts rubbing his leg. She then started raking her nails enticingly up his thigh. Guess what he asked me? He said, "Do you think she was trying to send me a signal that she wanted to do something?" I damn near stole him in the face for asking me some stupid shit like that!!! I said DUHHHHH!!!!! He said, "Damn! I knew it!" I laughed hard as hell cuz it wasn't just what he said, but the way he said it. Hahahahahahaha!!! I just shook my head man...
Ok, so this guy would see the way I was with the ladies at work, the "rapport or sex talk on the job" I had with them. Some I used to feel up on occassion. So one day, he came over to me and asked me how do I do that. I said do what? he said get with the women like that. Now, it must be said, becuz I do keep it real, that a lot of women on my job were just straight up freaks, not all of them, but a lot. However, nerds need not apply. You feel me? So anyway, i talked to him and told him to just assert himself and BE himself. Just leave that wack Erckle shit out! LOL! He said he can't do that, that he didn't know how.
So I started having him test his confidence on those skeezers at work. Just saying what he felt because they were skeezers and wouldn't slap him...within reason of course, just basic stuff. He couldn't. So I knew the problem was he knew them, and more importantly, THEY KNEW HIM! In other words, he got "Fuck Off" a lot! Hahahahaha! He said see, I can't do it. I started thinking to myself that this might be harder than I thought, but the idea of ME being responsible for another dude geting some ass based on my teaching spurred me on! LOL! Ego shit!
So I gave him an assignment. There was an area near our job where sexy women congregated for lunch. They didn't know him. So I said go over there at lunch time, and just strike up some conversations with at least 10 women (big area so no problem). I told him you are not going for results, just to build up your confidence. I was off that day. So, the next day when I come back to work and ask for a report - he tells me that he was scared, so he didn't go! He transferred shortly thereafter, and I guess by now he has gotten some play.
So hang in there OP! Tough crowd, so just pretend they are naked! LOL!
11-06-2007, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TSX Nightwalker
And just remember not to compromise yourself in order to please a girl! Just be yourself! Don't change for anyone!
if you are a good and decent guy keep being who you are! Don't become an a$$hole! One day, the right girl will come along and will notice and appreciate you for that!
This advice is for the birds. It's nothing but feel good advice mommy would tell you to feel better about your current plight. Sometimes, as hard as it is to come to grips with, you do have to make changes. It is not wrong, and in fact morally reprehensible, for you to not make significant changes, learn from mistakes, and grow.
If anything all these missed attempts could be a blessing in disguise! They may be selfish and shallow people and don't deserve a man like you! Don't ever lose sight of that!
I'm sorry but you give some of the worst advice on this forum. The worst part is, it's male dominated and you're female giving out the crap advice most women give out. It's the same rhetoric over and over and over again.
If four years ago I had just kept doing the "same thing" being "who I was" because "one day a girl will love you for who you are" - I'd be a fat, pale, depressed loser that could rock Halo and was incapable of handling a typical social situation with the same skill that I can now.
I thank God for the men who have entered my life and helped me be a better person. I hope for your sake you recognize that being a successful man is not the same as being a socially passive and incapable woman.
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Ok, so this guy would see the way I was with the ladies at work, the "rapport or sex talk on the job" I had with them. Some I used to feel up on occassion. So one day, he came over to me and asked me how do I do that. I said do what? he said get with the women like that. Now, it must be said, becuz I do keep it real, that a lot of women on my job were just straight up freaks, not all of them, but a lot. However, nerds need not apply. You feel me? So anyway, i talked to him and told him to just assert himself and BE himself. Just leave that wack Erckle shit out! LOL! He said he can't do that, that he didn't know how.
So I started having him test his confidence on those skeezers at work. Just saying what he felt because they were skeezers and wouldn't slap him...within reason of course, just basic stuff. He couldn't. So I knew the problem was he knew them, and more importantly, THEY KNEW HIM! In other words, he got "Fuck Off" a lot! Hahahahaha! He said see, I can't do it. I started thinking to myself that this might be harder than I thought, but the idea of ME being responsible for another dude geting some ass based on my teaching spurred me on! LOL! Ego shit!
I can personally attest to the fact that 'being nice' will get you nowhere. Being nice to someone doesn't end up in the kind of relationship I'd want to be involved in. If anything, sure you might end up in a relationship but it'll be one where the man is pussy whipped to no end - because he's always focused on 'being nice'. Once that pattern is started in a relationship it'll be damn hard if not impossible to set back to something more equal.
Remember that you don't NEED a girl to make you happy/to feel complete. You don't need that SPECIFIC girl to make you happy/feel complete. Just do your thing, and remember to create attraction - be a challenge. Girls don't like assholes, girls like guys who have their shit together and do what they want to do. Sometimes these guys are assholes sometimes they're good guys. But they're almost never 'nice' guys...
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Originally Posted by amisconception
Ya, keep playing Halo and eating pizza. Don't do anything to improve yourself or better you life. That's not important! Just "do what you've been doing" and...
That's right folks, ONE DAY, a girl will come along and will notice you and appreciate you for who you are (whatever the hell that mans). That's right! You heard her, don't be proactive about getting what you want out of life, one day it'll just fall into your lap! Now that's some good news! You mean, all this time I spend in the gym trying to look better has been a complete waste? And these clothes that I buy to look better, and feel just a tad bit more confident about myself - that's all been a waste? I can just sit at home and jack off to internet porn and one day the girl of my dreams will just appear?! WOW!
This advice is for the birds. It's nothing but feel good advice mommy would tell you to feel better about your current plight. Sometimes, as hard as it is to come to grips with, you do have to make changes. It is not wrong, and in fact morally reprehensible, for you to not make significant changes, learn from mistakes, and grow.
Huh? Maybe these attempts could be a blessing in disguise? How so, because one day the angel goddess from above will come down and bless him with the woman that will forever change his life and "complete" him? Uh, no.
I'm sorry but you give some of the worst advice on this forum. The worst part is, it's male dominated and you're female giving out the crap advice most women give out. It's the same rhetoric over and over and over again.
If four years ago I had just kept doing the "same thing" being "who I was" because "one day a girl will love you for who you are" - I'd be a fat, pale, depressed loser that could rock Halo and was incapable of handling a typical social situation with the same skill that I can now.
I thank God for the men who have entered my life and helped me be a better person. I hope for your sake you recognize that being a successful man is not the same as being a socially passive and incapable woman.
That's right folks, ONE DAY, a girl will come along and will notice you and appreciate you for who you are (whatever the hell that mans). That's right! You heard her, don't be proactive about getting what you want out of life, one day it'll just fall into your lap! Now that's some good news! You mean, all this time I spend in the gym trying to look better has been a complete waste? And these clothes that I buy to look better, and feel just a tad bit more confident about myself - that's all been a waste? I can just sit at home and jack off to internet porn and one day the girl of my dreams will just appear?! WOW!
This advice is for the birds. It's nothing but feel good advice mommy would tell you to feel better about your current plight. Sometimes, as hard as it is to come to grips with, you do have to make changes. It is not wrong, and in fact morally reprehensible, for you to not make significant changes, learn from mistakes, and grow.
Huh? Maybe these attempts could be a blessing in disguise? How so, because one day the angel goddess from above will come down and bless him with the woman that will forever change his life and "complete" him? Uh, no.
I'm sorry but you give some of the worst advice on this forum. The worst part is, it's male dominated and you're female giving out the crap advice most women give out. It's the same rhetoric over and over and over again.
If four years ago I had just kept doing the "same thing" being "who I was" because "one day a girl will love you for who you are" - I'd be a fat, pale, depressed loser that could rock Halo and was incapable of handling a typical social situation with the same skill that I can now.
I thank God for the men who have entered my life and helped me be a better person. I hope for your sake you recognize that being a successful man is not the same as being a socially passive and incapable woman.
You crack me up! First of all, stop taking things so LITERALLY! I'm not saying to be a fat slob, I'm just saying don't compromise who you are as a person! If someone happens to hurt you or f*ck you over in the worst way, don't let it get to you and make you into a ho or player! I've known a few people who were very nice guys and once they got f*cked over by a chick they turn into this player and treat girls like sh*t out of spite! Like they always say, "don't take it out on the next girl/boy" people fail to realize that when they do treat someone like crap, it would always be someone who didn't deserve to be treated that way! I mean no one does, but people have to grow and learn from their mistakes so they don't end up following the same pattern and end up hurthing themselves!
And second of all, if all you did was play Halo and eat pizza all day then I honestly don't know what kind of people you would attract and what kind of life you're living! You're implicating that people who don't take care of themselves will end up that way?! Give people some credit! I'm sure they have other things to do besides eating pizza and playing halo! Don't you even know that most people don't think like you and actually have an optimistic way of living their life? I don't work out, but I'm not a sad, fat, slob! I enjoy being outdoors and traveling and all that life has to offer! People will always have something to do, but it depends on the individual on what they do with their lives! Obviously, if you didn't do what you needed to do to get laid, you'd be a fat slob! But that's on you, don't try to pin that on everyone else! I mean, I'm sure people know that you always have to keep yourself noticeable to the opposite sex in some way! Even when people are in relationships they should always try to maintain themselves for their s.o. whether they try something new in the bedroom or take up a new activity! Things that will keep the spice in their relationship!
I swear, you sound like such a sad sad person! It's funny how you just turn my words around w/o even realizing that you're just making yourself sound like the a$$! Just because I said that "one day the right person will come along" doesn't mean you should put your life on hold until that moment comes! I'm sure you and everyone else has a life and should be doing what they do regardless even if you are in a relationship! You don't wait for things to happen, you make it happen! I'm just trying to point out that people shouldn't just SETTLE for just anyone!
I'm willing to wait for the right guy regardless if that's going to take some time! I'm not gonna rush into things! Shoot, I haven't dated or been on a real date for months, but that doesn't mean I'm holding my breath for my prince charming! I'm enjoying being single and if it happens that I do meet someone along the way then so be it! But I'm not going to make that same mistake and try to get into a relationship with the first guy I go out with! I take my time and I'm willing to take my time until I feel that I found someone worth my time!
So don't give me your BS about all this crap and nonsense that you speak because you're just so out of your mind about things I don't even know why I even entertain your opinions! You really sound like a really sad sap you know that? I'm here if you need counseling!
And like I said, you do give some awesome advice on a few subjects, but your outlook and point of view is just so...for lack of a better word...RETARDED! Get your head out of your a$$ and listen to a woman sometimes! Maybe you'll get some!
11-07-2007, 02:45 AM
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You crack me up! First of all, stop taking things so LITERALLY! I'm not saying to be a fat slob, I'm just saying don't compromise who you are as a person! If someone happens to hurt you or f*ck you over in the worst way, don't let it get to you and make you into a ho or player! I've known a few people who were very nice guys and once they got f*cked over by a chick they turn into this player and treat girls like sh*t out of spite! Like they always say, "don't take it out on the next girl/boy" people fail to realize that when they do treat someone like crap, it would always be someone who didn't deserve to be treated that way! I mean no one does, but people have to grow and learn from their mistakes so they don't end up following the same pattern and end up hurthing themselves!
And second of all, if all you did was play Halo and eat pizza all day then I honestly don't know what kind of people you would attract and what kind of life you're living! You're implicating that people who don't take care of themselves will end up that way?! Give people some credit! I'm sure they have other things to do besides eating pizza and playing halo! Don't you even know that most people don't think like you and actually have an optimistic way of living their life? I don't work out, but I'm not a sad, fat, slob! I enjoy being outdoors and traveling and all that life has to offer! People will always have something to do, but it depends on the individual on what they do with their lives! Obviously, if you didn't do what you needed to do to get laid, you'd be a fat slob! But that's on you, don't try to pin that on everyone else! I mean, I'm sure people know that you always have to keep yourself noticeable to the opposite sex in some way! Even when people are in relationships they should always try to maintain themselves for their s.o. whether they try something new in the bedroom or take up a new activity! Things that will keep the spice in their relationship!
I swear, you sound like such a sad sad person! It's funny how you just turn my words around w/o even realizing that you're just making yourself sound like the a$$! Just because I said that "one day the right person will come along" doesn't mean you should put your life on hold until that moment comes! I'm sure you and everyone else has a life and should be doing what they do regardless even if you are in a relationship! You don't wait for things to happen, you make it happen! I'm just trying to point out that people shouldn't just SETTLE for just anyone!
I'm willing to wait for the right guy regardless if that's going to take some time! I'm not gonna rush into things! Shoot, I haven't dated or been on a real date for months, but that doesn't mean I'm holding my breath for my prince charming! I'm enjoying being single and if it happens that I do meet someone along the way then so be it! But I'm not going to make that same mistake and try to get into a relationship with the first guy I go out with! I take my time and I'm willing to take my time until I feel that I found someone worth my time!
So don't give me your BS about all this crap and nonsense that you speak because you're just so out of your mind about things I don't even know why I even entertain your opinions! You really sound like a really sad sap you know that? I'm here if you need counseling! And like I said, you do give some awesome advice on a few subjects, but your outlook and point of view is just so...for lack of a better word...RETARDED! Get your head out of your a$$ and listen to a woman sometimes! Maybe you'll get some!
You crack me up! First of all, stop taking things so LITERALLY! I'm not saying to be a fat slob, I'm just saying don't compromise who you are as a person! If someone happens to hurt you or f*ck you over in the worst way, don't let it get to you and make you into a ho or player! I've known a few people who were very nice guys and once they got f*cked over by a chick they turn into this player and treat girls like sh*t out of spite! Like they always say, "don't take it out on the next girl/boy" people fail to realize that when they do treat someone like crap, it would always be someone who didn't deserve to be treated that way! I mean no one does, but people have to grow and learn from their mistakes so they don't end up following the same pattern and end up hurthing themselves!
And second of all, if all you did was play Halo and eat pizza all day then I honestly don't know what kind of people you would attract and what kind of life you're living! You're implicating that people who don't take care of themselves will end up that way?! Give people some credit! I'm sure they have other things to do besides eating pizza and playing halo! Don't you even know that most people don't think like you and actually have an optimistic way of living their life? I don't work out, but I'm not a sad, fat, slob! I enjoy being outdoors and traveling and all that life has to offer! People will always have something to do, but it depends on the individual on what they do with their lives! Obviously, if you didn't do what you needed to do to get laid, you'd be a fat slob! But that's on you, don't try to pin that on everyone else! I mean, I'm sure people know that you always have to keep yourself noticeable to the opposite sex in some way! Even when people are in relationships they should always try to maintain themselves for their s.o. whether they try something new in the bedroom or take up a new activity! Things that will keep the spice in their relationship!
I swear, you sound like such a sad sad person! It's funny how you just turn my words around w/o even realizing that you're just making yourself sound like the a$$! Just because I said that "one day the right person will come along" doesn't mean you should put your life on hold until that moment comes! I'm sure you and everyone else has a life and should be doing what they do regardless even if you are in a relationship! You don't wait for things to happen, you make it happen! I'm just trying to point out that people shouldn't just SETTLE for just anyone!
I'm willing to wait for the right guy regardless if that's going to take some time! I'm not gonna rush into things! Shoot, I haven't dated or been on a real date for months, but that doesn't mean I'm holding my breath for my prince charming! I'm enjoying being single and if it happens that I do meet someone along the way then so be it! But I'm not going to make that same mistake and try to get into a relationship with the first guy I go out with! I take my time and I'm willing to take my time until I feel that I found someone worth my time!
So don't give me your BS about all this crap and nonsense that you speak because you're just so out of your mind about things I don't even know why I even entertain your opinions! You really sound like a really sad sap you know that? I'm here if you need counseling!
And like I said, you do give some awesome advice on a few subjects, but your outlook and point of view is just so...for lack of a better word...RETARDED! Get your head out of your a$$ and listen to a woman sometimes! Maybe you'll get some!Off topic: Yo Nightwalker - nice new avatar! Told you I'm a breast man sugar!! Keep up the good work!
11-07-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
I think Amis and TSX should go on a date. Maybe they can take out their frustrations with each other on each other.
11-07-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX Nightwalker
Maybe you'll get some!
That was the first thing I saw in your post. Obviously, you don't know me but you had to throw that in there.
I have no problems finding women to have sex with. But the fact that you would say something like that just proves to me that you're typical. Long-winded, but typical.
The sad part is that I think you mean well. And it's also funny that you continue to think I'm a "sad sap". I'm not complaining about my situations with women. I have, a bit, in the past, but I've grown out of that. Just look at my posts in here. I was in a relationship for almost two years... But, that's beside the point.
The reality is that MANY young men feel incredibly frustrated by their current situation with women. They don't know how to deal with their own basic desires. And, when you compound that utter confusion with a dilution of gender roles, and assaults on masculinity, you get young men and boys that are almost paralyzed - to the point that they come onto boards like this and try to look for the magical pill that they can swallow to become attractive to this one girl they've tried to be friends with for months (if not years) now.
What's my point and what does it have to do with you? Well, it's simple actually. You don't know what it's like to be a guy who grows up thinking that if you're just nice to a girl she'll one day magically recognize how fantastic you are and make your life "complete" - your "better half". This is a complete social contrivance that exists to perpetuate a common social belief... It encompasses all of the feminine virtues we associate with femininity and creates an idealization when a young man finally meets a good looking woman and starts to date her. He puts her on a pedestal and loses complete perspective. He caters to her wants and desires and puts her first - before himself.
Does this type of thing happen with women also? Yes! But this is a relatively NEW social phenomenon for men that dates back to the early days of second-wave feminism. What's the result? Well, that's still up for debate but I do know a few things... The nuclear family has broken down, divorce rates are still growing, children being born out of wedlock is on the rise - even more so in minority groups - etc.
The consequences of the "women's liberation movement", both good and bad, have not been counter-balanced with any sort of "men's liberation" that allows for a socially acceptable environment for masculinity. That may not make sense to you, but I know that every time I watch a commercial on day-time TV it shows a man as a joke, as a subject of ridicule, and/or as a slave to his wife's commands.
ALL of this serves as the background noise for men's misunderstanding of their very BASIC and NATURAL desires. The proof is in the pudding. Many men are utterly confused, more than ever, as to how to handle women and their very own desires.
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Originally Posted by amisconception
That was the first thing I saw in your post. Obviously, you don't know me but you had to throw that in there.
I have no problems finding women to have sex with. But the fact that you would say something like that just proves to me that you're typical. Long-winded, but typical.
The sad part is that I think you mean well. And it's also funny that you continue to think I'm a "sad sap". I'm not complaining about my situations with women. I have, a bit, in the past, but I've grown out of that. Just look at my posts in here. I was in a relationship for almost two years... But, that's beside the point.
The reality is that MANY young men feel incredibly frustrated by their current situation with women. They don't know how to deal with their own basic desires. And, when you compound that utter confusion with a dilution of gender roles, and assaults on masculinity, you get young men and boys that are almost paralyzed - to the point that they come onto boards like this and try to look for the magical pill that they can swallow to become attractive to this one girl they've tried to be friends with for months (if not years) now.
What's my point and what does it have to do with you? Well, it's simple actually. You don't know what it's like to be a guy who grows up thinking that if you're just nice to a girl she'll one day magically recognize how fantastic you are and make your life "complete" - your "better half". This is a complete social contrivance that exists to perpetuate a common social belief... It encompasses all of the feminine virtues we associate with femininity and creates an idealization when a young man finally meets a good looking woman and starts to date her. He puts her on a pedestal and loses complete perspective. He caters to her wants and desires and puts her first - before himself.
Does this type of thing happen with women also? Yes! But this is a relatively NEW social phenomenon for men that dates back to the early days of second-wave feminism. What's the result? Well, that's still up for debate but I do know a few things... The nuclear family has broken down, divorce rates are still growing, children being born out of wedlock is on the rise - even more so in minority groups - etc.
The consequences of the "women's liberation movement", both good and bad, have not been counter-balanced with any sort of "men's liberation" that allows for a socially acceptable environment for masculinity. That may not make sense to you, but I know that every time I watch a commercial on day-time TV it shows a man as a joke, as a subject of ridicule, and/or as a slave to his wife's commands.
ALL of this serves as the background noise for men's misunderstanding of their very BASIC and NATURAL desires. The proof is in the pudding. Many men are utterly confused, more than ever, as to how to handle women and their very own desires.
See? That proves MY point that you're just very judgemental and honestly can't take my sarcasm very well! hehe Seriously, I was being sarcastic with that last comment and maybe if you didn't have such a huge stick up your a$$ then you would've known that! Just for an FYI, I joke around a lot! Hello? I don't know you and you don't know me, but obviously you have some kind of sense about me that I'm some heartless b*tch because I voice my opinions so daym much! So whatever statement you first quoted me on was just ridiculous, that had nothing to do with how you are in your relationships and am not trying to say that you only want a$$! I can tell that you would probably make a decent bf if you didn't act like such an a$$ about everything! You need to stop TWISTING my words around! So, get over it! That statement was a JOKE! Sheesh!
Okay, I wrote a whole statement refuting your claims, but as I reread it it began to not make sense because it's getting late and my mind is half way asleep! And to prevent myself from sounding like a , I'll let this argument go!
I just think you need to stop thinking like a caveman and allow men to learn from their experiences instead of giving false representation of women! Not all men are the same just as all women! Their negative attributes that society has placed on them should not be the overall consensus in anyone's mind! So, stop crippling your male counterparts on this issue and allow them to make up their own mind!
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Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
I think Amis and TSX should go on a date. Maybe they can take out their frustrations with each other on each other.