SDCGTSX

Now let's take a look at what the typical woman's ladder looks like:




The first thing to notice here is that a woman has not one ,but two ladders. This is becasue in addition the normal ladder, a woman also has a friends ladder. The friends ladder is where a woman puts guys that she considers "just friends". More to the point where she puts guys who don't get to have sex with her.


The problem arises because a woman never lets a guy know which ladder he is on. Obviously there is a huge difference, or gap between these two ladders. It is in this gap that kisses of death are delivered and intellectual whores are made. All a man can do is "go for it" and make a move on a girl; ask her out, try to kiss her, write her a love note or whatever. If he's on the good ladder fine. If he is on the friends ladder this is a case of ladder jumping. The man is trying to jump the gap from the friends ladder to the real ladder. The girl has two choices at this point: she can let him on the ladder and all is well, or, more likely, she can kick him in the head, and off the ladder. If you look you'll see that below the ladder is the Abyss(what was it Nietzsche said about a man being on a rope stretched over an Abyss?....well it's worse than he thought; there is no rope.) So the man falls into the Abyss. The Abyss isn't really as bad as it sounds. Mostly it's a period of self-loathing, embarrassment, and of course utter awkwardness with the girl in question if they are talking at all.

youngTL

Ah, but what if all other things are equal or close?

Minch00

Again, simply

Xenogen

Its the same thing....I always knew it as the Deacon Effect

Xenogen

Friends With Benefits:

This is the case where you get to sleep with a woman or have some sort of intimate physical relations without any sort of committment.

All we can say to this situation is: bravo! This is the optimal condition to be in--with as many women as possible.

So I WAS doing the right thing before

ks112

This shit makes sooo much sense. LOL for the fat guys with hot girls watch out mang, ladder's a bitch, better get in shape before someone who can climb the ladder faster come along.

NEVERaDuLLmoment

Different women have different preferences. You shouldn't base your decision of whether to go to the gym or not on "what women like." Do it for yourself, do it for your health.

ericajackhannahjamie?

You don't have to be totally ripped, but being "in shape" and "looking sexy" is indeed attractive.

Andrea25

personally on a purely physical basis...

Big muscles really seriously creep me out...
i would prefer toned/normal...
i can honestly say vin deisel doesn't do a thing for me...
pro wrestlers =

bryanz3.0cl

ive been in both situations and girls dont really care from my experience. i was 240 15% bf and self admittedly big as fuck (now that i look back and see pics of what i looked like) , i lifted for 5-6 years straight. now im 225 and havent lifted since dec. 04 and things havent changed. my 2 cents

youngTL

Pro wrestlers (ie: Randy Orton) > *