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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Next generation console screenshots...

Wow...so, purdy.


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At the recent Credit-Suisse First Boston Technology Conference, Electronic Arts, further pushing its status as the games industry’s leading protagonist, showed some images it claimed are representative of what next-generation home consoles will be capable of.

EA spokesman and CFO Warren Jensen presented two images, one of Madden and one representing future Need for Speed software, both renders of projected graphical output.

"Imagine that the characters in a football [game] will be capable of showing real emotion," said Jensen. "That's what's going to be possible with the next generation of technology."


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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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McNabb is too smooooove fo dat.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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whoa thats hot!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Wow...that's impressive.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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One can only imagine how games like GT4, Final Fantasy, and Metal Gear Solid running on machines with this kind of graphics power would look like.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Final Fantasy? i hate that game. i cant stand RPG
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
Final Fantasy? i hate that game. i cant stand RPG
Okay okay! Then imagine something like Grand Theft Auto or something...yeesh, ya big baby.



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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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I wonder if thats what its actually going to look like or if it's the instant replay type of thing. Normally the instant replays look 10x better than the actual game itself.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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instant replay should look the same as the game play, did u mean the pre-render cut sense that some game have?
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Well that too, but no I mean the instant replay that you find in games like Grand Turismo. Most of the time the instant replay looks a lot better than the actual game.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Can't wait for HALO 3 !!!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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excellant...
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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strahan is filling mcnabb's cornhole. nice.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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most impressive. now they have to keep the consoles under $300
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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bull shit ill believe it when i see it.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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strahan is filling mcnabb's cornhole. nice.
quite the imagination there mantii
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
bull shit ill believe it when i see it.
I don't find it that hard to imagine. Doom 3 running on a 256MB video card is visually one of the most beautiful games...And that's something that came out awhile ago.

So, imagine cutting-edge technology that will power a console due out in 2006-07ish...
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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I don't find it that hard to imagine. Doom 3 running on a 256MB video card is visually one of the most beautiful games...And that's something that came out awhile ago.

So, imagine cutting-edge technology that will power a console due out in 2006-07ish...
I have my doubts. There are pre-rendered representations of what the games MAY look like, but they aren't actual screen shots. They did something similar before the PS2 and Xbox came out. The initial screen shots were way more detailed than what we see in current games.

Not saying the games won't look great, but I believe this is a little too good. Once you add things like AI, physics, gameplay, etc... the graphics usually suffer.

BTW, the Xbox2 should be out by the end of this year and the PS3 will be out in early 2006 in Japan. The next gen is much closer than many realize.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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:wtf: , thats pretty insane.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Wow...that's impressive.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Sick.

And its only gonna get better.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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That looks impressive, but it reminds me of all the awesome images that we see before a next gen console is released, and 90% of it is never what the console can put out. And if you play games like grant turismo you will notice that the replays always look better than the actual game play. I have high expectatiosn for next gen consoles, but i dont think we will reach that level of pre rendered cg type graphics yet. And as far as emotions go, we have been promised realistic facial expressions and character emotions since psx and dreamcast. Its hard to make ai act out like a human does, in real time. I can see this happening in pre rendered cut scenes using in game graphics though.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Well, this FAQ which I ripped from the PS3portal may shed some light into the future technology of our console systems and what they will be capable of. Call me an optimist, but I think those pics I showed above are entirely doable for a PS3 or an XBox 2...

Note the comment about the 1 terraflop processing power of the machine.

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PlayStation 3 FAQ

Presently the information available for the PS3 is very limited and as a result many rumours have arisen most of which are ridiculous. Here we have compiled an FAQ to help quench your thirst for PS3 knowledge and hopefully make some accurate predictions based on what we know. We hope this will help answer the most common questions gamers have about the PlayStation 3.

When will PS3 come out?

PS3 portal estimates an early 2006 release. Sony have recently announced that they will be showing off the PlayStation 3 at the LA E3 2005 event.

What features will it have?

In an interview with the Official PlayStation website, SCEE president and COO, David Reeves, revealed that there may be two version of the PS3 available to customers at launch. Reeves said that one version could be a pure games machine without any of the fancy features and would probably retail in the region of 200 Euros. The other version would include extra features, perhaps similar to those on the PSX. See:

http://www.ps3portal.com/?page=interview
It has also been revealed in an Official Statement by Sony that the PlayStation 3 will support a new media format known as Blu-Ray which can play new Blu-Ray discs which can store up to 50GB of data . These discs can also read the old DVD format and therefore the PS3 should be backwards compatible with PS2 and therefore PS1. See:

http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=22
The controllers are set to change slightly with the implementation of a new trigger, but this can't yet be officially confirmed. See:

http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=39
We feel it is however highly likely that PS3 will have a Hard Drive as Sony have made it clear that the future of gaming appears to be online, and this would provide memory for downloads and game saves, as well as improving loading times like in FFX. PS3 Portal believes the PS3 will be upgradeable with add ons, much like the PS2's network adaptor and Hard drive (only available in Japan and USA).

Will PS3 games be playable Online?


Online prospects are looking good for the PlayStation 3. Sony has been keen to sort out online gaming and have used the PS2 as a sort of test platform with games like Socom and FF11. Developers have had their doubts, but the success of these games and the amount of players logging on has been phenomenal. Although it’s not definite Sony believe it to be the way forward so it is highly likely that PS3 will incorporate online gaming in some form. Although whether it's through means of an external adaptor or coming as standard with the console is yet to be revealed.

SCEE president and COO, David Reeves said "Sony hope’s that all users will have a Broadband Internet connection at the time of purchase." When asked about how fast the connection would need to be, he said, "it’s going to have to be 2 or 3 MB per second, something like that. Ken Kutaragi’s even talking about 30MB per second! And when it gets to that, then it is broadband distribution, and people then can just download whatever game they want. But it's got to be secure, and that's where DNAS (Sony's online security protocol) comes in."


How much will it cost?

Typically the last two generations of playstation console have been priced at around $300 US Dollars at Launch or £300 in the UK. Both have continuously decreased in price year on year into their life. It is quite likely PS3 will do the same. It’s not known how much it will probably cost at launch but between $300 - $500 is a fair guess.

Will PS3 play PS2 and PS1 games?

Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will feature backwards compatibility with the PS2 and PSone, ensuring continued support for older software formats in the new hardware.


How powerful will the PS3 be?

Sony has formed a partnership with Toshiba and IBM, to make a processor called the Cell. The processor is actually a collection of smaller processors. Software packets, called “cells”, are then sent to each of the smaller processors in order to give instructions on what tasks to perform. Potentially, the processor will be able to calculate up to 1 trillion floating point calculations per second.

What will PS3 look like?

At the moment all of the pictures of PS3 on the internet are fakes.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Sick.

And its only gonna get better.


Doom 3 rightnow look as good as those screenshot....i bet the new PS3 and Xbox will produce graphic looking even better than those screenshots. dont be suprised when it comes out.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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I highly doubt the next gens are going to look like Doom 3 or even better as you say. Hardly anyone can run Doom 3 nicely, meaning high detail + decent resolution. Doubt that in a year they'll be able to pull those graphics.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Those are cutscene pre-renderings, not in-game shots.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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I highly doubt the next gens are going to look like Doom 3 or even better as you say. Hardly anyone can run Doom 3 nicely, meaning high detail + decent resolution. Doubt that in a year they'll be able to pull those graphics.
please....my computer is 2 years old...only thing i upgrade is RAM and vedio card over the years...1GB RAM and a 256MB GeForce 5700 Ultra and its running Doom3 at 1024x768 at high detail smoothly. next generation system will be at least 6 time the speed of the current CPU of the xBox and PS2 and a suppostly a bad ass GPU....the system would probably replace ur HD DVD player using Blu-Ray and also a hard drive so it might even replace ur DVR box. well thats what i've read around the net.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ABreece
Those are cutscene pre-renderings, not in-game shots.

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the football pic is most likely a pre-rendering... but I could see the 1st pic being actual in-game footage..... I have been waiting for this kind of realism in a driving game, for about 15 years now....
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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I don't see why some of you find this so difficult?

If you look back to the 8-bit machines like the NES and then now with the X-Box or PS2 and see what they can already achieve with hardware that is already 3 years old, how hard is it to imagine the graphics power in 2 years from now?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
I don't see why some of you find this so difficult?

If you look back to the 8-bit machines like the NES and then now with the X-Box or PS2 and see what they can already achieve with hardware that is already 3 years old, how hard is it to imagine the graphics power in 2 years from now?


most of the people who doubt it, are most likely Xbox peeps....

fellas, you gotta think 'outside the box'... no pun intended...
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Very nice.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
I don't see why some of you find this so difficult?

If you look back to the 8-bit machines like the NES and then now with the X-Box or PS2 and see what they can already achieve with hardware that is already 3 years old, how hard is it to imagine the graphics power in 2 years from now?
It's useless hype right now. EA has even said that this is what they *expect* the games to look like. "It'll be great, trust us..."
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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i'm expecting better graphic then what u see there within the next 2 years.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ABreece
It's useless hype right now. EA has even said that this is what they *expect* the games to look like. "It'll be great, trust us..."
Well, predicting technology was always a crapshoot.

Wasn't it Thomas Watson, the Chairman of IBM who once said "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."

We shall see in due time just how powerful the next generation consoles really are.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ABreece
It's useless hype right now. EA has even said that this is what they *expect* the games to look like. "It'll be great, trust us..."


As I've said, these are not real screen shots. It will probably end up looking similar, but no one truly knows yet... I'll get excited when real screen shots are shown
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
I don't see why some of you find this so difficult?

If you look back to the 8-bit machines like the NES and then now with the X-Box or PS2 and see what they can already achieve with hardware that is already 3 years old, how hard is it to imagine the graphics power in 2 years from now?
There is no use comparing the NES to Xbox or PS2... These systems are MULTI-generations apart. The NES came out in 1984 FYI...

Look at the difference between PS1 and PS2... It looks much better, but not such a huge difference like some are expecting here.

I have a feeling we will see a similar gap between PS2 and PS3 as we did with PS1 and PS2 or N64 vs. Gamecube.
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"It'll be great, trust us..."
"Trust Me" is marketing for "F*ck You".
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PS3 playable @ E3...

Source: Computerandvideogames.com


Looks like we might get a glimpse of Sony's PS3 earlier than we expected - in a financial conference call last week Sony execs suggested that the next-gen PlayStation will be playable at E3 in May.

The announcement could mean that all three next-gen consoles - Xbox 2, Nintendo Revolution and PS3 - go head-to-head in an epic clash of the console titans at the world's biggest videogames showcase.

Sony confirmed that the PS3 will appear in playable form rather than just showing video footage of the console's capabilities, although the scope of this playability was not confirmed. We could be looking at actual games, or Sony may choose to show off interactive tech demos that demonstrate the PS3's power.

Sony also stated that it would be making a more conclusive PS3 announcement at the end of March. Again, no info was offered as to what this potential bombshell would contain, but perhaps we can expect official technical specifications and a ballpark release date.

This comment comes hot on the heels of confirmation that J Allard, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President, energetic Xbox fan and XNA (Microsoft's next-gen development toolset) guru, will deliver the keynote speech at the GDC on March 9 is San Francisco. His lecture is entitled 'The Future of Games: Unlocking the Opportunity', but it now looks unlikely that he'll be smuggling an Xbox 2 into the auditorium.

Nintendo's Revolution is also expected to make its first public appearance at E3, setting the scene for a truly stunning three-way face off on the showfloor. We'll be there bringing you all the details.
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