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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Question New Television for GAMING.. Advise needed

Okay guys.. my 32 inch Sony is over 5 years old and has seen better days. (I think the picture tube is pooping itself/ discoloring in top corner)

I am looking for an kick ass set-up. Bigger than a 32 but not higher than 50 inch.

LCD, rear projection, HDTV ready..I else to look for..

No PLASMA's... they are not good for gaming

Price: $1500-3500...

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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two options sony wega 42 or 50 or samsungs dlp 42 or the 50 inch


cant go wrong with one of those too...
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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built in hd tuner.. at least 1080i ... 1080p would be better
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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No PLASMA's... they are not good for gaming
I've never understood this. YTF not? Burn in? How many games actually have mostly static screens where burn in would be an issue?

<--- Please enlighten this non-console owning individual.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
Burn in?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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SONKDF42WE655 Sony LCD Rear Projection TV $1,417.77
MITWS48315 Mitsubishi Rear Projection TV $1,147.77
SONKDFE42A10 Sony LCD Rear Projection TV $1,999.00



MITWD52527 Mitsubishi LCD Rear Projection TV $2,249.10
SAMHLR5067W Samsung DLP Rear Projection TV $1,797.77


Thoughts on any of the above?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I just picked up the new Sony 60" SXRD.Now I just have to wait until Tusesday for the Xbox 360.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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wish I had $1500-3500 to spend on a tv.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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...so, I have a Samsung DLP 50" in the living room, and a Philips 30" flat panel LCD in my room, I heard that there were some problems with gaming with DLP's especially with Samsungs.... do you guys think I'm better off with my Philips?

I do plan on getting the 360, btw


are "burn in's" common with LCD's
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
are "burn in's" common with LCD's
Plasma's are not good for gaming, something about the refresh rate or some shit, Soopa was telling me to stay away from Plasma TV for gaming
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty
Plasma's are not good for gaming, something about the refresh rate or some shit, Soopa was telling me to stay away from Plasma TV for gaming
...so, that advice applies to flat panel LCD's too?


aren't they different?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
...so, that advice applies to flat panel LCD's too?


aren't they different?
No, flat panel LCD's are not susceptible to burn in.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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No, flat panel LCD's are not susceptible to burn in.

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
I've never understood this. YTF not? Burn in? How many games actually have mostly static screens where burn in would be an issue?

<--- Please enlighten this non-console owning individual.
Think about all the games you play. They all have some sort of static display on them - the health bar, a minimap, etc. All that stuff burns in. Go to an arcade with some machines that are a few years old and you can see it for yourself.

See this pic for an example interface of what can burn in:

http://69.56.199.198/gtaserwisimg/gfx/news/gtalvs2.jpg
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ABreece
Think about all the games you play. They all have some sort of static display on them - the health bar, a minimap, etc. All that stuff burns in. Go to an arcade with some machines that are a few years old and you can see it for yourself.

See this pic for an example interface of what can burn in:

http://69.56.199.198/gtaserwisimg/gfx/news/gtalvs2.jpg
Static images are still a problem, just not as much as they use to be.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Sorry, but with the 7th & 8th generation plasma panels out now, I think you guys are overly paranoid about games causing burn in. Either that or maybe you regularly play games for six hours at a time. The tiny amount of screen real estate that's static in most games is no worse than the crap most of the cable news channels have on their screens now.

BTW - My buddy plays X-Box on his plasma and we both agree it looks just fine so I don't thing there's anything inherently incompatible (such as refresh rates).
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
BTW - My buddy plays X-Box on his plasma and we both agree it looks just fine so I don't thing there's anything inherently incompatible (such as refresh rates).

come back and tell us this in 5 years...

I sit for hours on end sometimes when I have time to kill (no pun intended)

I am just telling you what I have been told by some TV experts... I am by far a man of knowledge when it comes to TV's.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty
SONKDF42WE655 Sony LCD Rear Projection TV $1,417.77

SAMHLR5067W Samsung DLP Rear Projection TV $1,797.77
I boiled it down last night... it is between the Sony or the Samsung.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Smitty, check out this link, especially if your going the 360 route

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8145/X...-HDTV-Alliance
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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toshiba dlp check out my www
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Carl, get the samsung if you are willing to spend the extra dough, plus its a 50"....that was one of my other choices, but the price on the sony was better for me at the time...
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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DON NOT GET A PLASMA.... IF IT CRAPS OUT YOUR SCREWED...

lcd and dlp if the tv gets messded up you can just replace the bulb for about 250 dollars right now and have a tv as good as new
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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personally i have to sony but if you have alot of light in your room.. id go with the samsung
seems sharper with like window light .. but if outside sunlight doesnt effect you either would be a good chice.. isnt juniorbean selling a dlp??
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Most new (2004+) plasmas on NEW gaming systems (XBOX...) are relatively safe. But you still run a risk.

In XBOX, alot of games use translucent graphics, and game designers are more wary of the colors they use, brightness levels, etc.

Games like Halo are pretty safe for most televisions in the way they're designed.

However, most PS2 games still use alot of opaque static graphics with white text, etc. These burn in incredibly easy. On a CRT based RPTV you can burn it in on a PS2 game like SOCOM in as little as 16 hours of continual play.

On a NEW plasma, you really have to abuse it to burn it in, but it's still possible.

Personally, I prefer plasma over LCD for movies/tv. However, for gaming, I'd stick with an LCD.

Otherwise I'd go with a rear projection DLP (which I also prefer above LCD).
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Games like Halo are pretty safe for most televisions in the way they're designed.
unless you play the same game a shitload. A friend of mine plays halo2 so damn much that the radar circle is burned into his big screen tv. I think it's a rear projection.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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thanks all.

could someone tell me what exact components I need to hook up my 360 and PS2 for the best game play view? all I know is red,yellow,white wires..
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Originally Posted by Smitty
thanks all.

could someone tell me what exact components I need to hook up my 360 and PS2 for the best game play view? all I know is red,yellow,white wires..
Component cable is the way to go, since I don't think 360 supports HDMI.
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Component cable is the way to go, since I don't think 360 supports HDMI.
I've always bought Monster Cable for A/V, but ever since I priced a Monster HDMI cable last week, have been looking at it more closely. Does anyone feel Monster sells the best product, i.e, is worth the cost, or are there products to be had of equivalent quality for less money? If so, what are they?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Check out Sony's XBR flat panel LCD displays. They have 32" and 40". They are pricy but very good quality.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EriQ009
I've always bought Monster Cable for A/V, but ever since I priced a Monster HDMI cable last week, have been looking at it more closely. Does anyone feel Monster sells the best product, i.e, is worth the cost, or are there products to be had of equivalent quality for less money? If so, what are they?
If there's one th ing i know about A/V, it's that Monster cable is highly overrated.
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If there's one th ing i know about A/V, it's that Monster cable is highly overrated.
I've heard the same... in fact, there are companies out there that sell BETTER quality cables and cheaper... you just gotta look for'em
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EriQ009
I've always bought Monster Cable for A/V, but ever since I priced a Monster HDMI cable last week, have been looking at it more closely. Does anyone feel Monster sells the best product, i.e, is worth the cost, or are there products to be had of equivalent quality for less money? If so, what are they?
Even a RCA-made HDMI cable will work, stay away from Monster if you are looking for DVI or HDMI cable.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty
thanks all.

could someone tell me what exact components I need to hook up my 360 and PS2 for the best game play view? all I know is red,yellow,white wires..
If you get the premium 360, you get the component cables in the box. No need for extra wires.
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I have a 54" CRT based RPTV, but I fear burn in, so I'm most likely going to pick up a LCD HDTV for my gaming room. I'm thinking of either the 32" Samsung or Sony models. The 360 is going to put a nice dent in my wallet.
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I have a new 50" Samsung DLP. Hooked up the Xbox right away and played Halo2. What I noticed is it seems like the TV was always just a hair behind what I wanted to do. If I panned right or left, it seemed like it was just a hair off. Not a lot, but enough to notice. Also, it takes a while to get used to going from a 27" CRT to a 50" DLP. I ended up not using the DLP for gaming. I now use my old 32" Sony XBR. Still amazed at how great the picture looks on that thing after 6 years.
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I have a 54" CRT based RPTV, but I fear burn in, so I'm most likely going to pick up a LCD HDTV for my gaming room. I'm thinking of either the 32" Samsung or Sony models. The 360 is going to put a nice dent in my wallet.
An update. I just picked up a 42" Sony LCD Wega Projection TV (3LCD chipset). I read there is no lag with this new model and the picture is awesome. It was the same price as a 32" LCD flat panel but the image quality on SDTV was significantly better.
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Originally Posted by CCns24
I have a new 50" Samsung DLP. Hooked up the Xbox right away and played Halo2. What I noticed is it seems like the TV was always just a hair behind what I wanted to do. If I panned right or left, it seemed like it was just a hair off. Not a lot, but enough to notice. Also, it takes a while to get used to going from a 27" CRT to a 50" DLP. I ended up not using the DLP for gaming. I now use my old 32" Sony XBR. Still amazed at how great the picture looks on that thing after 6 years.
....see, I had read in another thread about a "lag" on the DLP's too... that is why, I'm thinking I'm just going to hook my 360 in my room with the 30" flat panel Philips LCD.
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....see, I had read in another thread about a "lag" on the DLP's too... that is why, I'm thinking I'm just going to hook my 360 in my room with the 30" flat panel Philips LCD.
My 56" Samsung DLP came in the day I got my 360. Hooked it up and started playing COD2, Madden, and NBA Live. I experienced no lag with these games. Is this lag issue supposed to be a common problem?
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Most new (2004+) On a CRT based RPTV you can burn it in on a PS2 game like SOCOM in as little as 16 hours of continual play.

On a NEW plasma, you really have to abuse it to burn it in, but it's still possible.

Personally, I prefer plasma over LCD for movies/tv. However, for gaming, I'd stick with an LCD.

above LCD).
16 hours of continual play?? No way I could play any game for that long.

I think I may need (want) a new TV soon as well. I have a 53 inch Sony HDTV that I bought back in 03. The new TV's out today make mine look like crap.
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Originally Posted by EriQ009
My 56" Samsung DLP came in the day I got my 360. Hooked it up and started playing COD2, Madden, and NBA Live. I experienced no lag with these games. Is this lag issue supposed to be a common problem?

I don't know... but it's been brought up in two differnet threads, and on the other thread (can't find it right now but it was in AZ.com), the person that bought it up said that he had heard it else where too...

Hey, btw... did you get the 1080p DLP? I got mine last year, literally the week it came out... (50" pedistal), but I don't regret buying it so early... I've had plenty of great move experience since... and still loving it.
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