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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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^^^ and, what about when games move to streaming format... you won't even need a drive, other than for saving data. prolly won't need that either eventually, all your sheit will be saved in your online acct..
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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It sounds like MS is in a better strategic position.

It's like the only people choosing PS3 over the next generation XBOX are going to be "fanboys" who won't be enough of the market to support the PlayStation further beyond one more generation.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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^^^ and, what about when games move to streaming format... you won't even need a drive, other than for saving data. prolly won't need that either eventually, all your sheit will be saved in your online acct..
I definitely think this will be the future - fully online games, profiles and streamed content. I really like the Xbox Live Arcade games, and while they are small and fairly simple, I love being able to try out and buy a new game right from the console itself.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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I think Sony is just stringing everyone along with these 2006 release dates.
They are afraid if they came out and told the truth that it's gonna be at least 12-18 months or more till the PS3 release, gamers who didn't buy the 360 and who are waiting for the PS3 are gonna jump ship and buy the 360. The longer Sony waits to release the PS3, the shorter life span it is gonna have when the NEXT MS console is released.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I think Sony is just stringing everyone along with these 2006 release dates.
They are afraid if they came out and told the truth that it's gonna be at least 12-18 months or more till the PS3 release, gamers who didn't buy the 360 and who are waiting for the PS3 are gonna jump ship and buy the 360. The longer Sony waits to release the PS3, the shorter life span it is gonna have when the NEXT MS console is released.
totally agree... can you imagine if Sony announced tomorrow that the PS3 won't be released until Summer 2007? sheit..
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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i will be buying PS3 solely because im a playstation loyalist....i have playstation 1....playstation 2...and hopefully playsation 3.....hopefully ps3 will be able to play all of my ps1 and ps2 games...thats a prime benefactor in my decision
Playstation fanboy here.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
totally agree... can you imagine if Sony announced tomorrow that the PS3 won't be released until Summer 2007? sheit..
Exactly. The PS3 may be as great as we have heard, but Sony has to be leary of their schedule. MS has the upper hand. They stole the strategy right out of the Sony playbook.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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If they are making everyone wait another year before they release this, I think most people (like myself) that were waiting for the PS3 to come out to just bite the bullet and say to sony and buy the 360.

I know I would be PISSED if i waited for the PS3 to come and it was only equal to the 360.

I honestly think that Sonys marketing department is totally screwing the pooch and waiting till next year.

So if the 360 is only the gobetween, when is the next MS system targeted to come out?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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with only a few decent games and non existant availability, i barely consider the 360 "released"
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Python2121
with only a few decent games and non existant availability, i barely consider the 360 "released"
there are only like 3 or 4 game sworth playing right now, and nothing worth mentioning has been released for several months.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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and this, is why I gave up long ago.... :<

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/20/so...nt-be-delayed/

Sony: PS3 launch will (or won't) be delayed

Posted Feb 20th 2006 10:30AM by Conrad Quilty-Harper

In two conflicting statements, Sony has denied a report by Merrill Lynch that suggested the PlayStation 3 could be delayed until next year, whilst simultaneously stating that the launch could be pushed back because of delays in approval of the PS3's "final specifications" by industry consortiums.

An article from Bloomberg Asia includes a quote from Kei Sakaguchi, a Sony spokesman in Tokyo saying that "there is no change in our original plan to release the console in spring 2006." Contradicting the Bloomberg report, BBC News paraphrases the words of an unnamed Sony spokesman: "Sony [is] waiting for final specifications - which are decided by industry consortiums." In the spokesman's own words: "the launch could be pushed back if [the specifications are] not decided soon."

We're not quite sure who's statement to believe. If the quote from the unnamed spokesperson in the BBC article is now the company's official line, then this is the first admission we've heard from Sony that suggests the company may miss its target of a spring 2006 launch. Something which analysts have been predicting for months.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
and this, is why I gave up long ago.... :< "ke sara, sara"

the speculation is so unreliable. I just cant wait until ps3 is out and there is real competition because you know thats when all of the good games and real availability comes
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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The Merrill Lynch report has Sony in panic mode....damage control....damage control!!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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wtf is up with the NWS pic asshole
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Waiting for PlayStation 3 FEBRUARY 22, 2006
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When Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi unveiled the first details of the PlayStation 3 in May, 2005, calling it a "supercomputer for computer entertainment," game enthusiasts rejoiced. Packed with so much technology that even nongamers have said they will give it a look, the PS3 appeared to solidify Sony's reputation as the kingpin of the video-game industry even as Microsoft and Nintendo introduced their own next-generation consoles.
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But recent conflicting reports from Sony's internal public relations team now cast doubt on that dominance. Responding to a report by two respected Merrill Lynch analysts on Feb. 17, a Sony (SNE) spokeswoman told BusinessWeek and others that "the (PS3) launch could be delayed" beyond the stated late-spring launch.

The potential culprit? Final specs for Sony's Blu-ray high-definition DVD standard, due to be woven into the PS3, have not yet been set, she says. Another spokeswoman quoted in the Japanese press flatly denied such a delay is possible and reiterated that the company is on track for a spring launch in at least one region of the world.

MICROSOFT'S HANDICAPS. What's Sony's game? Like politicians floating trial balloons, Sony execs appear to be preparing the market for some delay or limited release this year of the next-gen console, which will play high-definition movies, have interactive online features, and sport the bells and whistles of top consumer electronics gear.

Such a delay may not be the worst thing. Few industry analysts expected the games master to accomplish much more than a token launch in Japan by June, with many predicting a wider rollout in time for the U.S. holiday shopping season.

To date, Microsoft's lead in the next-generation race with Xbox 360 has been impeded by a parts shortage that has limited U.S. sales (see BW Online, 10/28/05, "Microsoft's Xbox Factor"). Also a problem are lackluster sales in Japan, where Nintendo and Sony enjoy home-field advantage. Sony's PlayStation 2 also continues to sell well, as does its PlayStation Portable handheld game console.

STOCK SLUMP. What's more, with a bill of materials estimated at between $600 and $900, Sony initially will take a huge loss on every box sold, assuming they will be priced below $450 apiece, analysts say. By comparison, Microsoft (MSFT) loses an estimated $125 on every Xbox 360 sold (see BW Online, 11/22/05, "Microsoft's Red-Ink Game").

But the conflicting signals have raised doubts that even a fall launch may be impossible, causing Sony's stock to drop over the past three trading days on the Tokyo stock market. In the U.S., Sony shares have tumbled 4.6% since Feb. 15, closing at $43.10 on Feb. 21.

With the Merrill report speculating the bulk of Sony's worldwide launch will slip into 2007, Microsoft could enjoy an unexpected second holiday season of sales without heavy Sony competition. A PS3 delay also gives developers more time to perfect games for the Xbox.

Another wild card that could undermine Sony's leadership: Nintendo executives say they remain on track for a fall console launch. "It may have been no big thing for Sony to give Microsoft one holiday period on the shelves to itself. But you're going to be sorely testing that loyal hardcore audience if it goes to two," says DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole.

"PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK." Executives at Sony's PlayStation unit also risk testing the patience of their colleagues on the consumer electronics side of the company, who say plans for Blu-ray are on schedule. Members of the Blu-ray Disc Assn., including those at Sony's consumer electronics unit, are furious at what they call erroneous statements about Blu-ray delays.

Sony, Matsushita Electric Industrial, and others are pushing Blu-ray as the next-generation DVD standard, and are in a heated battle against a camp led by Toshiba that is promoting a similar, but noncompatible standard called HD DVD. At the Consumer Electronics Show in January, Blu-ray makers announced that the major specifications for the machines had been locked down, with only copy-protection software issues to be worked out.

Sony in mid-March is scheduled to release pricing and availability this summer of standalone machines, sources say. Meantime, both Samsung and Pioneer have said their machines will be on retailers' shelves in a few months. "We are pretty much on track to see initial Blu-ray products appear as early as May," says Pioneer Senior Vice-President Andy Parsons.

ONE MAN'S HOPES. Game developers suggest Sony could be aiming to build anticipation for PS3 ahead of the annual Game Developers' Conference in late March and the larger E3 gaming event in May. Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios, is scheduled to deliver a GDC keynote that will focus on PS3, and the world will be watching to see if he reveals pricing and launch dates. Most game developers say they're anticipating a fall launch.

If, however, that's pushed beyond November, the delay would be a huge embarrassment for Kutaragi, who last spring was passed over for the top job at Sony in favor of Sir Howard Stringer. The success of PS3 has been seen as an important factor in determining whether he will get the job when Stringer retires.

Whatever the case, it's clear the battle for leadership in the $35 billion-plus games industry is far from over -- and Sony's predominance may not be assured.
http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...7s+top+stories

Well sony is in trouble if it costs that much to make a PS3 console. Im sure it will be delayed glaf I have a 360 so i dont have to wait.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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wtf is up with the NWS pic asshole
uhh.. who are you talking to. and, what link are you referring to.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Post #21... looks like someone hotlinked from the wrong site
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Post #21... looks like someone hotlinked from the wrong site
wow.. thanks. yeah that was a bit NWS..
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Fuck Sony
they are teh gay
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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This was on the IGN.com website this morning.

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PS3 Still on Target For Spring 2006
Sony claims no PS3 launch change, but admits possible delay.
by Anoop Ganayat

February 20, 2006 - Sony Computer Entertainment has reaffirmed its aim to release the PlayStation 3 in spring. However, it has also admitted that some areas of the system's specifications have yet to be finalized, and if finalization is delayed, the system's launch could be pushed back.

SCE's comments are in response to a recent report from Merrill Lynch Japan. According to Reuters, a Merrill Lynch analyst claimed in a report dated the 16th that many hardware and software companies have mentioned a possible delay for the PS3 to some time between fall and the end of the year. As reasons for the delay, the report mentioned a holdup in production of the system's video chip, problems with heat generation from the PS3 hardware and incomplete software content. However, the report also noted that Sony hadn't issued an official statement on the matter, and that Merrill Lynch would continue with the assumption of a Japanese release by May 31, the last official day of spring 2006.

A Sony public relations representative didn't specifically deny the report, stating to Reuters, "We cannot comment on analyst reports. At the present, we're aiming for a spring 2006 launch, just as planned." Reuters points out that Sony's comments did not specify a territory.

While sticking to its guns regarding a spring launch, the SCE PR agent admitted, "If we cannot finalize the specifications, we cannot release the PS3," adding, "We're currently waiting until the last minute for the specifications to be finalized." Asked what would happen in the case of a delay in finalizing the specifications, the Sony rep said, "We'd end up selecting the best time and releasing it. However, we cannot comment yet."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/690/690176p1.html
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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"some areas" my ass... what they mean is, they need to get started on the flowcharts for the system design and process.

let's see - no video, heat issue, no games.. small stuff really.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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wow.. thanks. yeah that was a bit NWS..
Someone switched the link to be funny I guess. Sorry about that. Crap like that happens sometimes when you hotlink.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Someone switched the link to be funny I guess. Sorry about that. Crap like that happens sometimes when you hotlink.
yea... no need to apologize - not your fault.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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"some areas" my ass... what they mean is, they need to get started on the flowcharts for the system design and process.

let's see - no video, heat issue, no games.. small stuff really.
ps3 ain't comming out till next year for sure.

they don't even have a working system yet, just an empty plastic shell to show off .

revolution > *
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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not pasting the whole thing here but check it out.... good read.

PlayStation 3 component prices: Why so high?

http://news.com.com/PlayStation+3+co...tml?tag=st.num

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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New Sony PlayStation to break the bank

New Sony PlayStation to break the bank
Sony's PS3 videogame console could cost $700 or more to make.
By Owen Thomas, Business 2.0 Magazine online editor
February 24, 2006: 11:05 AM EST

SAN FRANCISCO (Business 2.0) - In the videogame business, hardware makers generally sell new consoles at a loss, making their profits by charging licensing fees to videogame publishers. But according to an analysis by News.com, Sony (Research) is paying an unusually steep bill for its upcoming PlayStation 3 console. The system's components cost between $725 and $905, analysts estimate. The biggest culprit: Sony's new Blu-Ray disc drive, which will play high-definition movies as well as games. With the PS3 console expected to sell between $299 and $399, Sony will lose hundreds of dollars per console. Of course, if the PS3 is a hit, the move could still pay off. Component prices usually drop sharply as a console continues production, and the more consoles Sony sells, the more licensing fees it will garner from videogames sold for the PS3.
This thing...if it ever comes out, is gonna be north of 500 bucks!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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I guess it might be time to invest in an X-box 360 sorry to say.

Any word on Nintendo's next gen console, when is the release date for that?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
I guess it might be time to invest in an X-box 360 sorry to say.

Any word on Nintendo's next gen console, when is the release date for that?
I believe October or November this year
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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there's a lot of buzz going on about PS3... more ppl are starting to confirm its not coming out in Spring 2006 (NO WAY!?!?) - sources are saying parts will actually start being BUILT in the summer, etc. etc.. I'm not posting any of it because a) there is so much and b) I'm still taking it as a grain of salt. It's out there, check www.joystiq.com or www.kotaku.com if you wanna read about it.

here is one news item that, while still a rumour, I felt is postworthy:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/09/ps...ides-of-march/

PS3 update hinted to arrive on the Ides of March

Posted Mar 9th 2006 1:30PM by James Ransom-Wiley

Speaking with reporters at a recent Dynasty Warriors event, Koei vice-president Kiyoshi Komatsu hinted at a Sony event to be held on March 15 at an unspecified location in Japan. Though Sony refused to comment on the event, this latest revelation has sparked hopes that Sony is finally ready to come clean about the status of the PlayStation 3. March 15, or the "Ides of March," was thought to be an auspicious date in the Roman calendar—it's also the day Julius Caesar was assassinated. To borrow the phrase from Mr. Shakespeare, all ye doubters best "beware the Ides of March.”
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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More stringing along from Sony...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Meh, when it gets here it gets here. I hate all this 'hyping up'. Its gonna sell like hotcakes regardless, so they should just set a date already.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Meh, when it gets here it gets here. I hate all this 'hyping up'. Its gonna sell like hotcakes regardless, so they should just set a date already.
not sure if its hype. i think they are having some trouble getting it out. however, you are right, it will sell like crazy no matter what, and it will be worth the wait and $$ IMO
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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WOW, PS3 is going to be that late? Until that time comes, i'll be having fun with my 360!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by drunkenbuda
WOW, PS3 is going to be that late? Until that time comes, i'll be having fun with my 360!
Word and my PSP I dont care when PS3 comes out. Im not gonna buy the system till MGS4 comes out.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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This delay doesn't bother me one bit. I just bought a new house so I can use the extra time to save up some $$$.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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hahhhahaha... I wrote something along these lines somewhere here a while ago.... BIG surprise... it's already April. Heck it's almost May. Look into 2007 for PS3 release. AHhh.. post #3.

http://theinquirer.net/?article=30931



Sony Playstation 3 is far from complete

Big and still incomplete

By Charlie Demerjian: Wednesday 12 April 2006, 09:39

THE NEWS ABOUT PS3s being scarce at E3 is kind of troubling to me, but not totally unexpected.

We are about six months from launch, and debugging should be done, prototypes and dev kits should flow like water, and all the tame magazines should already have one. The situation is rather different though, they are nowhere, and there are two related reasons behind this.

The first is size. People tell us that the current PS3s are about 50% too large to fit in the sleek but empty boxes they have been showing off. This is a problem, but a solvable one, electronics always get smaller. Time solves all, and there is still time, just not much.

More troubling to me is that Sony is still bidding on components for the boxes. This means the development is far from final, and it will be debugging up to, and in a Microsoft overheating manner, past the last minute. Not a good sign.

Overall, I think it will be out late in the year, but Sony will push the launch out as far as humanly possible. If you have one on your non-denominational year end holiday list, you may be waiting in XBox360esqe lines to get your toys. Basically, don't hold your breath waiting, you may be blue till next spring. µ
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Looks like Sony is gonna miss the holiday rush.
Nintendo and Microsoft are very happy to hear this news.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Between this and the disappointment in NO blu-Ray hardware in any of the new computers Sony announced today...

They have fucked themselves in the ass.

When almost all the studios decided to not just go hd-dvd, but blu-ray as well...sony was handed a surefire win, and they had to go and completely fuck it up.

Way to drop ball sony...again and again and again......
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Between this and the disappointment in NO blu-Ray hardware in any of the new computers Sony announced today...

They have fucked themselves in the ass.

When almost all the studios decided to not just go hd-dvd, but blu-ray as well...sony was handed a surefire win, and they had to go and completely fuck it up.

Way to drop ball sony...again and again and again......
I sense a pattern here
It seems Sony is trying to put "too much" into the PS3...and the delays are killing them. Time is crucial in the game industry...the longer Sony takes to release the PS3 the better advantage Microsoft has to release the next gen xbox 360 (720).
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Well, delaying is great news for me. I need the $$$ for landscaping and making a deck this year anyhoo.
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