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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Gamers abuzz with rumors about E3

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Gamers abuzz with rumors about E3

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NEW: Microsoft drops 20GB Xbox360 by $50, 60GB version will be $349

NEW: Gaming site gets photo of Walmart database showing "Halo 'Blue'"

Speculation helps build buzz for the conference and its new gaming products

Big players of the $37 billion video-gaming industry reveal new products next week

CNN) -- Bloggers can't stop gossiping. Readers can't stop guessing. Now, after months of waiting, three big names will finally address the rumors.

No, not Madonna, A-Rod, or Lenny Kravitz, but another big-name trio with just as much swirling drama: Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony.

The big three players of the nearly $37.5 billion video-gaming industry will reveal their newest, biggest and most secretive products in Los Angeles next week at the E3 Media and Business Summit, putting a temporary end to the industry's massive game of cat and mouse with consumers.

Each year at E3, game developers and publishers come together to unleash what they hope will become the next big thing.

E3 2007 gave birth to such hits as "Wii Fit," "Mario Kart," "Grand Theft Auto IV," "Call of Duty 4," the Slim Sony PSP and "Rock Band."

In the weeks and months before the conference, serious gamers swarm message boards, blogs and popular gaming Web sites, hoping to outguess each other about what secrets the big names might be withholding.

The industry is in on it, too. Game companies often find themselves fighting against moles at gaming stores -- and even within their own ranks -- who leak to the Internet new signs, display art for stores and memos about upcoming projects.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, the companies admit. The guessing helps build buzz for the conference and their potential products -- that is, unless consumers' hopes get too high.

"Obviously we like when consumers are having fun with our products and are communicating their enthusiasm for them," said Denise Kaigler, vice president of corporate affairs for Nintendo of America. "Through the years we have heard every possible rumor. I suppose people like to speculate, but there's nothing we can do for someone who is disappointed that their favorite unfounded rumor didn't come true."

This year is no different. All the companies have fought specific rumors -- sometimes outright denying them and other times letting the speculation build until the first press conference on Monday.

Rumors have swirled about the possibility of Microsoft introducing a wireless motion sensor device to rival the Wiimote from Nintendo. Several gaming sites also have shown photos of new signs provided by game-store workers indicating the price of the Xbox 360 will drop by $50.

Sunday night Microsoft confirmed the price drop in a press release. The Xbox360 20GB console will drop to $299.99 in U.S. and Canada. For the original price of the $349, users will now get an Xbox360 with 60GB of storage.

Perhaps the biggest flurry of all surrounds the possibility of a new "Halo" game. Avid fans took to the Web to dissect a podcast from Bungie Studios, the developer of the "Halo" series. During an exchange at the end of the nearly 90-minute podcast, co-hosts Brian Jarrard and Luke Smith hinted a big announcement could be coming at E3.

Jarrard asked Smith if something big will happen on July 14, the day the conference kicks off.

"Somehow that's sticking in my head for some reason. Guess we'll have to see," Smith responded coyly.

Sunday, the buzz grew even louder after someone sent a gaming Web site a photo showing a Walmart internal database with a listing for a video game called "Halo 'Blue.'"

Of the big gaming companies, Nintendo has perhaps kept its E3 announcements the quietest. Executives dismissed Internet gossip about a new Nintendo DS, their portable gaming system, after a photo advertisement was circulated that appeared to show the DS with a wider screen. Nintendo called rumors of a widescreen DS "purely rumor and speculation."

Nippon Ichi Software Inc. of America, a marketing company, came forward and said the difference in size on the ad was the result of editing "for effect."

Kaigler said gamers can expect more usage out of the Wii Balance Board, which debuted last year with the much-anticipated "Wii Fit" game. "We Ski," "Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party," "Boogie Superstar" and "Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2009," a title from one of "The Biggest Loser" workout gurus, all will take advantage of the balance-board technology.

Some gamers are anticipating a possible Sony announcement about the availability of "Home," which is described as an alternative virtual world, similar to "Second Life," but for the PS3. John Smedley, president of Sony Online Entertainment, divulged only that the company hopes to attract a younger audience while capitalizing on the popularity of free realm and whimsical fantasy-type games. iReport.com: What's the best game ever?

Another continuing trend at E3 is the shrinking size of the event. Gamepro.com reports that 400 game companies attended the conference in 2006, but 39 will be present this year. Two years ago, 60,000 people showed up at the event, which used to be open to the public. But last year E3 become invitation-only, and 5,000 spectators are expected to be on hand next week, according to Gamepro.com.

So, what does this year's conference have in store?

Kaigler, like many of the industry executives, won't say.

"You'll have to wait and see like everybody else."
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Remember when E3 used to be cool?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Remember when E3 used to be cool?


Now, PAX and TGS are the ones to watch IMO.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Anyone else notice the 360 froze during the Gears of War 2 demo? haha, microsoft products have a bad habit of doing that during keynotes
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Resident Evil 5, co-op mode FTMFW!!!!!!!

Oh, yeah, and Gears looks hot too
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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was the article written by a middle schooler?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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is there gonna be a price drop for the PS3? I'm wantin a bluray player
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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is there gonna be a price drop for the PS3? I'm wantin a bluray player
hasn't been mentioned.

but i believe some sort of video service is available tonight.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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I just want to play Diablo III.. that's all I ask.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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hasn't been mentioned.

but i believe some sort of video service is available tonight.
interesting.

Sony Style has a promo where if you sign up for a Sony credit card and buy something for $299 and up, they'll credit you $100.

So a 40gb for $399-$100 ain't bad right?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cmark
interesting.

Sony Style has a promo where if you sign up for a Sony credit card and buy something for $299 and up, they'll credit you $100.

So a 40gb for $399-$100 ain't bad right?
yea that's not bad.

a lot of people used that when they missed the walmart $100 gift card deal.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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i think they just announced that the 80gb PS3 will be $399 in september...

Starting in September, the 80GB will have the current functionality of the 40GB PS3, for $399.

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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i think they just announced that the 80gb PS3 will be $399 in september...
don't think i'd wanna wait that long especially since I probably don't need the extra 40gb anyway
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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quest for booty

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Yup PS3 will offer movie rentals and downloads tonight from all major movie studios. Also if you have a Netflix account and Xbox Live Gold members will get movie streaming via from Netflix to the 360.

I'm thinking about watching Batman Begins in HD tonight on my PS3! I hope they got it. ooo they got the new Rambo!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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I've yet to meet anyone that uses all that gig
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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I've yet to meet anyone that uses all that gig
I've got a 60gb and I just looked and I only got 15gb left! I've been deleting alot of my downloaded videos lately too, must be from all the PSN games and demos I've got 27 total.

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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I've got a 60gb and I just looked and I only got 15gb left! I've been deleting alot of my downloaded videos lately too, must be from all the PSN games and demos I've got 27 total.
I don't use it for any videos, but occasionally download demos, but as soon as I'm done with it... say I liked the game... most likely I'll end up buying the game, no need for the demo-delete If I don't like the game/demo? delete no need to keep... its like taking a Bad picture with the digital camera, I delete it right away... just my
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I've yet to meet anyone that uses all that gig


Upgraded to a 250 gb and it only has 37 gb left...
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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maybe I should get a 128gb SSD and then I'd have wicked fast boot time and load times!!
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Upgraded to a 250 gb and it only has 37 gb left...
so what all have you done with the 210+gb?
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Lots of pr0n.

Mizouse, FFXIII will be on PS3 also, just not exclusive anymore.

I followed the show over at avsforum and off the top of my head here's what I recall. I can't link kotaku or joystiq since they're blocked.

360
FFXIII was the biggest announcement at the show
Mii-like characters and a Wii-mote but I didn't see the presentation
Gears2 trailer

Nintendo
Motion-plus. Basically it's a hardware addition to your Wii-mote that is supposed to allow 1:1 movement. A game called Wii Resort Sports will be coming out with some crappy mini-games including sword fighting. They displayed the sword fighting and it was supposed to have been pretty nice. This will serve more use in other games.
Wii Music. Basically you'll see instruments on the screen and you play air guitar or air drums. Don't worry about rhythm, this isn't like Guitar Hero, it'll play to its program.
Next Call of Duty will port to Wii
GTA for DS but a new game
Shawn Hill Snowboarding with the Wii Balance Board.
Congrats to us we sold a shitload

Sony
PS3 80GB now $399 but it's just a 40GB + 40GB. No BC, extra slots, etc
Download service available tonight. Rent SD for $1.99, TV starting at $1.99, and HD for $5.99. Won't be BD quality but might be as good/worse/better than On Demand. poor Sony servers.
Quest For Booty for $14.99 via PSN
GOW3 CGI trailer
Resistance 2 preview
PS2 package for $150 that comes with Lego Indiana Jones and Justice League DVD
New Resistance for PSP
MAG - online shooter army style with up to 256 players.
Little Big People preview
Killzone2 trailer
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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and DC universe for PS3
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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BTW, new 80GB w/o BC comes with DS3. D/Led movies can be viewed on PSP.
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I'm reading the ToS for the PSN video store right now and the highlights are

-If you rent a video you have 24 hours to finish watching it once you start viewing it on an Authorized Device (PS3 or PSP) or 14 days to begin watching it before it expires whichever comes first.

-If you rent a movie in Standard Definition (SD) and download it to your PS3 you can transfer it to be viewed on 1 authorized PSP but if you do that "currently" as it stands now you'll no longer be able to view it on the original PS3 or another PS3 or PSP. they specifically said currently which leads me to belive that this little rule may change in the future.

-Rental content that was original downloaded to a PSP can't be transferred and neither can HD content downloaded to a PS3.

-If your purchase a movie you of course get unlimited viewing and SD purchases may be transferred to up to 3 PSPs. Purchased video downloaded originally to a PSp can be transferred to two other PSPs and not to a PS3. HD purchased content is not capable of being transferred to any other PS3 or PSPs.

-Once you download a video from the PSN store you can't download again without purchasing it again.

Currently there are now HD purchases and I wouldn't expect any unless blu-ray becomes a failure, Sony stand to make more $$$ if blu-ray succeeds than they would by offering HD purchases!

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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so what all have you done with the 210+gb?
Movies, music and TV shows
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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porn, porn, and faces of death 5
fixed.
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fixed.
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Dark Sky Films has announced that they are releasing Faces Of Death on Blu-Ray disc on October 7, 2008. A brand new high definition transfer was created from extremely rare vault material and the disc will also have a 5.1 digital soundtrack.
Screw GT5 and MGS4 THIS is why I bought my PS3!
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I'm reading the ToS for the PSN video store right now and the highlights are

-If you rent a video you have 24 hours to finish watching it once you start viewing it on an Authorized Device (PS3 or PSP) or 14 days to begin watching it before it expires whichever comes first.

-If you rent a movie in Standard Definition (SD) and download it to your PS3 you can transfer it to be viewed on 1 authorized PSP but if you do that "currently" as it stands now you'll no longer be able to view it on the original PS3 or another PS3 or PSP. they specifically said currently which leads me to belive that this little rule may change in the future.

-Rental content that was original downloaded to a PSP can't be transferred and neither can HD content downloaded to a PS3.

-If your purchase a movie you of course get unlimited viewing and SD purchases may be transferred to up to 3 PSPs. Purchased video downloaded originally to a PSp can be transferred to two other PSPs and not to a PS3. HD purchased content is not capable of being transferred to any other PS3 or PSPs.

-Once you download a video from the PSN store you can't download again without purchasing it again.

Currently there are now HD purchases and I wouldn't expect any unless blu-ray becomes a failure, Sony stand to make more $$$ if blu-ray succeeds than they would by offering HD purchases!
Moral of the story. Do not d/l to PSP. The 24 hour window is the same as cable on demand. However, I'm not crazy that you can't re-download purchased movies but I think you can for games. This is probably for server reasons.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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my 40gb is on the way! don't need all that space anyway...it's my blu ray player that happens to play games
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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, cmark.

you could always end up buying a new HD if you need the extra space.

i hear it's really simple to replace it.
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Or connect an external HDD via USB
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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got my PS3 today! unfortunately, the box looked like it had been opened before. it is common for the sony store to sell refurbished stuff?
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