Would you buy a M3 with cloth?
06-19-2002, 07:34 PM
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Would you buy a M3 with cloth?
Would you get a used M3 with cloth and no sunroof, with navi, if the price was Perfect?? 
or would you rather have a new 330ci fully loaded?
Heres a pic of the cloth m3...
or would you rather have a new 330ci fully loaded?
Heres a pic of the cloth m3...
06-19-2002, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
Ok let me put it this way... its about 3k more for me to get that M3.
I guess I could always get custom leather later on.
Ok let me put it this way... its about 3k more for me to get that M3.
I guess I could always get custom leather later on.
I am assuming this is a new M3 right?
BTW: That cloth interior looks pretty damn good. I wouldn't even change it.
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06-19-2002, 08:04 PM
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I vote for the M3 w/ cloth. I don't even really care about my seat coverings. My CL was the first car I've ever had w/ leather, and I probably would have gotten cloth in it if it would have saved me some $$.
06-19-2002, 08:15 PM
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fuck the 330 CI!!! go with the M3 who fuckin cares about leather and sunroof when you are talking about an M3 for 46 grand with 8k miles...this is a NO BRAINER!!!
06-19-2002, 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S
We need more pictures of the M3.
We need more pictures of the M3.
What for? You will see them in due time if things go right. :P
I just wanted to know your thoughts on the cloth. (yes i am a dickhead)
06-19-2002, 08:36 PM
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I may be in the minority, but I would vote for the 330. I'm more a fan of luxury than performance. Plus, I would have fun modding it with cool Dinan stuff 
That's what cars are for. But, if you want performance, M3 all the way. Luxury, 330. I would take the latter.
That's what cars are for. But, if you want performance, M3 all the way. Luxury, 330. I would take the latter.
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Originally posted by jimcol711
fuck the 330 CI!!! go with the M3 who fuckin cares about leather and sunroof when you are talking about an M3 for 46 grand with 8k miles...this is a NO BRAINER!!!
fuck the 330 CI!!! go with the M3 who fuckin cares about leather and sunroof when you are talking about an M3 for 46 grand with 8k miles...this is a NO BRAINER!!!
06-19-2002, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
What for? You will see them in due time if things go right. :P
I just wanted to know your thoughts on the cloth. (yes i am a dickhead)
What for? You will see them in due time if things go right. :P
I just wanted to know your thoughts on the cloth. (yes i am a dickhead)
:pfawk: 
That being said. M3. Don't get a 330 and get stomped on by a CLS
06-19-2002, 08:58 PM
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Who really cares about cloth or leather. The important thing with a car like that is the engine.
The people that are telling you to get the 330 just don't want you to blow their doors off when they pull up next to you.
There really is no choice here.....
The people that are telling you to get the 330 just don't want you to blow their doors off when they pull up next to you.
There really is no choice here.....
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i will take m3 anyway..because i love every gen of m3.. don't buy 330ci if u can afford a m3...there are hell a lot of difference.... i think u know what the difference are...at least when people comes to challange...they see a m3 badge at the rear...they are going to back off a bit haha..right...
i think u know what the difference are...at least when people comes to challange...they see a m3 badge at the rear...they are going to back off a bit haha..right...
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DUDE, crazy sellout, you better cancel that order now!! if you can get out from under that new car order, DO IT...M3 will bring much more satisfaction...and much more respect
06-19-2002, 09:39 PM
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i'm curious what the insurance cost on each. have you checked into that?
06-19-2002, 09:47 PM
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Hey Crazy Sellout,
If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.
It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02
If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!
Mint out
If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.
It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02
If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!
Mint out
06-19-2002, 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Mint Julip
Hey Crazy Sellout,
If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.
It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02
If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!
Mint out
Hey Crazy Sellout,
If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.
It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02
If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!
Mint out
so then people shouldnt buy a CL/TL cuz of tranny problems? :P
Plus i hear its pretty focused on the NOV. 2001 production dates for the M3, and i think BMW is actually admiting that they have a problem. Unlike acura.
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I've been through 1 transmission so far, and no futher problems. I love the M3 probably as much as any enthusiast, but just be careful - do a little research and see if BMW has really pinpointed the engine failure problem - usually narrowed to an engine serial # range or something that is equally clear and definitive.
One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...
Mint out
One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...
Mint out
06-19-2002, 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mint Julip
I've been through 1 transmission so far, and no futher problems. I love the M3 probably as much as any enthusiast, but just be careful - do a little research and see if BMW has really pinpointed the engine failure problem - usually narrowed to an engine serial # range or something that is equally clear and definitive.
One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...
Mint out
I've been through 1 transmission so far, and no futher problems. I love the M3 probably as much as any enthusiast, but just be careful - do a little research and see if BMW has really pinpointed the engine failure problem - usually narrowed to an engine serial # range or something that is equally clear and definitive.
One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...
Mint out
Don't buy in that range!
according to BMW, the problem is being covered/fixed
http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=494967&page=2
And yes, I would buy a cloth M3
If I were buying one, I would even consider ordering it. The cloth holds your body to the seat better at the track 
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I never knew you can get a m3 in cloth. Are you sure its not suede? But anyways i think i'm bout to go order me a bentley w/ some phat ass cloth seats ridin on 15's. j/k
06-20-2002, 12:37 AM
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Message Title: Thomas Salkowsky, Motorsport manager speech
Posted by: BBENTANCOURT on 2002-06-19 at 11:24:37
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I attended the Lone Star chapter meeting of the BMWCCA last night in Dallas. Thomas Salkowsky spoke for about 90 minutes. Below is a brief excerpt of what was asked and his response. Please keep in mind that this is not an official note from the Lone Star Chapter, but my personal notes of what I heard. If anyone else attended and can clarify, please feel free to. TIA. Blas
·M3 engine failures: His response was that BMW NA is supporting every customer with engine failures. He said that there was a post on Roadfly stating that from Customer Relations last month. He also stated that when the problem was identified, every M3 owner would know. M division is very aware of the problem and they are currently working there way through the engine to figure out what is causing the failure. He did mention a part, rod bearing, I think?
M specialist training for mechanics, Is there any? : Not really, but every mechanic is trained to work on every engine.
That's all I have. I enjoyed meeting him. I also told him my concerns about the engine and my reluctance of "opening her up". I told him I had just passed the 3100 mile break-in period, but was unsure of going past 6k rpm. His response was that I should have no fear at all and run it like an "M" car should be run.
Blas
How refreshing is that?
Posted by: BBENTANCOURT on 2002-06-19 at 11:24:37
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Message:
I attended the Lone Star chapter meeting of the BMWCCA last night in Dallas. Thomas Salkowsky spoke for about 90 minutes. Below is a brief excerpt of what was asked and his response. Please keep in mind that this is not an official note from the Lone Star Chapter, but my personal notes of what I heard. If anyone else attended and can clarify, please feel free to. TIA. Blas
·M3 engine failures: His response was that BMW NA is supporting every customer with engine failures. He said that there was a post on Roadfly stating that from Customer Relations last month. He also stated that when the problem was identified, every M3 owner would know. M division is very aware of the problem and they are currently working there way through the engine to figure out what is causing the failure. He did mention a part, rod bearing, I think?
M specialist training for mechanics, Is there any? : Not really, but every mechanic is trained to work on every engine.
That's all I have. I enjoyed meeting him. I also told him my concerns about the engine and my reluctance of "opening her up". I told him I had just passed the 3100 mile break-in period, but was unsure of going past 6k rpm. His response was that I should have no fear at all and run it like an "M" car should be run.
Blas
How refreshing is that?