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Old 06-19-2002 | 07:34 PM
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Would you buy a M3 with cloth?

Would you get a used M3 with cloth and no sunroof, with navi, if the price was Perfect??

or would you rather have a new 330ci fully loaded?
Heres a pic of the cloth m3...
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What price would you consider "perfect"? If the price is right I would much rather have the M3 over a 330.
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Ok let me put it this way... its about 3k more for me to get that M3.


I guess I could always get custom leather later on.
Old 06-19-2002 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
Ok let me put it this way... its about 3k more for me to get that M3.


I guess I could always get custom leather later on.
M3 all the way!!! You can custom leather the interior if you want at a later date. It will cost less to add leather to an M3 than it would for you to convert a 330 with leather to an M3.
I am assuming this is a new M3 right?

BTW: That cloth interior looks pretty damn good. I wouldn't even change it.
Old 06-19-2002 | 07:57 PM
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NO NO its not a new M3, its a 2001 M3 with 8k miles on it.
Old 06-19-2002 | 07:59 PM
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if thas the new m3 u are talkin about then i say hell yea i dunno where u live but leather gets hella hot
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
NO NO its not a new M3, its a 2001 M3 with 8k miles on it.
How Much?
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Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S

How Much?

about 46k, keep in mind E46 M3s are hard to find cheap.
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout



about 46k, keep in mind E46 M3s are hard to find cheap.
I would get it.
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:04 PM
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You know i am a doctor, if your having problems you should call me.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!???? Are you crazy????? (no pun intended). Get the M3!!!
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:06 PM
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I vote for the M3 w/ cloth. I don't even really care about my seat coverings. My CL was the first car I've ever had w/ leather, and I probably would have gotten cloth in it if it would have saved me some $$.
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:15 PM
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fuck the 330 CI!!! go with the M3 who fuckin cares about leather and sunroof when you are talking about an M3 for 46 grand with 8k miles...this is a NO BRAINER!!!
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:18 PM
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what are the specs on the 2001 m3, are they different then the current one? Also, what is the color and pics! I would probably get m3. my vote goes to the m3.

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Ok Ok i get the hint.
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We need more pictures of the M3.
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:20 PM
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e46 /////M3
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S
We need more pictures of the M3.

What for? You will see them in due time if things go right. :P

I just wanted to know your thoughts on the cloth. (yes i am a dickhead)
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:36 PM
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I may be in the minority, but I would vote for the 330. I'm more a fan of luxury than performance. Plus, I would have fun modding it with cool Dinan stuff That's what cars are for. But, if you want performance, M3 all the way. Luxury, 330. I would take the latter.
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Originally posted by jimcol711
fuck the 330 CI!!! go with the M3 who fuckin cares about leather and sunroof when you are talking about an M3 for 46 grand with 8k miles...this is a NO BRAINER!!!
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What for? You will see them in due time if things go right. :P

I just wanted to know your thoughts on the cloth. (yes i am a dickhead)
Hurry up and buy the damn thing then, I don't have all year. :P :pfawk:
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:41 PM
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I would definitely get the M3 (even with all the engine failures).....although, was the person who ordered the car drunk when they opted for cloth?
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:42 PM
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46k dollars and no leather That being said. M3. Don't get a 330 and get stomped on by a CLS
Old 06-19-2002 | 08:58 PM
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Who really cares about cloth or leather. The important thing with a car like that is the engine.

The people that are telling you to get the 330 just don't want you to blow their doors off when they pull up next to you.

There really is no choice here.....
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maybe its just me but those "cloth" seats sure look like they have leather in them
Old 06-19-2002 | 09:25 PM
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I hear Focal 165W3s sound better in M3s.....
Old 06-19-2002 | 09:29 PM
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i will take m3 anyway..because i love every gen of m3.. don't buy 330ci if u can afford a m3...there are hell a lot of difference.... i think u know what the difference are...at least when people comes to challange...they see a m3 badge at the rear...they are going to back off a bit haha..right...
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DUDE, crazy sellout, you better cancel that order now!! if you can get out from under that new car order, DO IT...M3 will bring much more satisfaction...and much more respect
Old 06-19-2002 | 09:39 PM
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i'm curious what the insurance cost on each. have you checked into that?
Old 06-19-2002 | 09:47 PM
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Hey Crazy Sellout,

If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.

It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02

If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!

Mint out
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Originally posted by Mint Julip
Hey Crazy Sellout,

If you're looking at a 2001 M3, there's a reason it's for sale: BMW is getting their heads handed to them because the M3 motors are blowing up left and right. Has to do with incorrect crank bearing tolerances, and motors are failing well below redline. There's a 2 - 3 month backlog on replacement motors.

It may not be such a great deal after all...just my $.02

If the M3 was as solid as the regular 3 series, I'd get one too!

Mint out

so then people shouldnt buy a CL/TL cuz of tranny problems? :P
Plus i hear its pretty focused on the NOV. 2001 production dates for the M3, and i think BMW is actually admiting that they have a problem. Unlike acura.
Old 06-19-2002 | 10:15 PM
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I've been through 1 transmission so far, and no futher problems. I love the M3 probably as much as any enthusiast, but just be careful - do a little research and see if BMW has really pinpointed the engine failure problem - usually narrowed to an engine serial # range or something that is equally clear and definitive.

One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...

Mint out
Old 06-19-2002 | 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mint Julip
I've been through 1 transmission so far, and no futher problems. I love the M3 probably as much as any enthusiast, but just be careful - do a little research and see if BMW has really pinpointed the engine failure problem - usually narrowed to an engine serial # range or something that is equally clear and definitive.

One of the guys who works for me has a friend who just purchased a 2002 with SMG - 6K miles and the engine blew. Perhaps BMW has a wider spread problem on their hands...

Mint out
Yup, http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=495298&page=2

Don't buy in that range!

according to BMW, the problem is being covered/fixed
http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=494967&page=2

And yes, I would buy a cloth M3 If I were buying one, I would even consider ordering it. The cloth holds your body to the seat better at the track
Old 06-19-2002 | 10:51 PM
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GET THE M3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 06-19-2002 | 11:13 PM
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I never knew you can get a m3 in cloth. Are you sure its not suede? But anyways i think i'm bout to go order me a bentley w/ some phat ass cloth seats ridin on 15's. j/k
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M3 all the way. Don't even think of getting a 330 over that car.
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i'm curious what the insurance cost on each. have you checked into that?
ohh you just burst his bubble probably heh.
Old 06-20-2002 | 12:04 AM
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For $46k I'd get a C5 (maybe even a year-old Z06 for that much) and beat that M3 plus not have to worry about my engine blowing up.
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What color is the M3???
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M3! Go for the HORSEPOWER!

You can always add leather later.
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I attended the Lone Star chapter meeting of the BMWCCA last night in Dallas. Thomas Salkowsky spoke for about 90 minutes. Below is a brief excerpt of what was asked and his response. Please keep in mind that this is not an official note from the Lone Star Chapter, but my personal notes of what I heard. If anyone else attended and can clarify, please feel free to. TIA. Blas

·M3 engine failures: His response was that BMW NA is supporting every customer with engine failures. He said that there was a post on Roadfly stating that from Customer Relations last month. He also stated that when the problem was identified, every M3 owner would know. M division is very aware of the problem and they are currently working there way through the engine to figure out what is causing the failure. He did mention a part, rod bearing, I think?

M specialist training for mechanics, Is there any? : Not really, but every mechanic is trained to work on every engine.

That's all I have. I enjoyed meeting him. I also told him my concerns about the engine and my reluctance of "opening her up". I told him I had just passed the 3100 mile break-in period, but was unsure of going past 6k rpm. His response was that I should have no fear at all and run it like an "M" car should be run.
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How refreshing is that?


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