Why won't Costco sell you a different speed rated tires?

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Old 12-16-2004 | 01:31 PM
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Why won't Costco sell you a different speed rated tires?

Went to Costco to get new tires...but they won't put on a different speed rating set other than OEM (V). I was going to get some 215/55/16 Bridgestone in H-speed rating, but they said they can't mount those on since mine calls for V rating. So I got BF Goodrich Touring T/A's v rated tires at lesser cost then the Bridgestone H rated tires. So they didn't really "up-sell" me on more expensive tires since they turned out to be $40 less.
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:37 PM
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Probably a liability issue. Besides, why would you be getting H-rated tires that have a lower speed rating than your current tires?
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:38 PM
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h rated scares me
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:43 PM
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get Z-rated tires.
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:43 PM
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I don't get what the problem is. I wouldn't drive on H-rated tires. You saved money. Case closed
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:44 PM
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I didn't even know people bought tires at Costco... jeezus
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
I didn't even know people bought tires at Costco... jeezus

Actually I went there cause I thought they were supposed to be cheaper, but they seemed to be more expensive.
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:48 PM
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H-rated are fine for our cars. Who actually drives over 108 mph for extended amounts of time anyway? or at all? Its a personal thing but I have used them and they are absolutely fine. The difference is in the rubber compound. H-rated are not as soft as V-rated which equals stickyness so V-rated handle better but wears faster becuase of this. Go with what you like though there are plenty of choices but H-rated is O.K. for people who dont drive over 108-110 something like that.
Old 12-16-2004 | 01:49 PM
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They don't want you blowing a tire and blaming them. the rating is speed, and load bearing capabilities. so a H rated wouldn't be able to handle the wieght of our cars either. just be happy they didn't, you could have lost it on the freeway.
Old 12-16-2004 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Randol
H-rated is O.K. for people who dont drive over 108-110 something like that.
yup.. v-rated all the way.. who doesnt drive over 100 once in a while?

btw.. is z-rated better then v?
Old 12-16-2004 | 02:25 PM
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Z-rated is suppost to handle up to 180mph thats what was told....i got those just incase i have to go around 180mph
Old 12-16-2004 | 02:54 PM
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Where is this 108mph number coming from? Everywhere I've seen, H-rated is good for up to 130mph. That's directly from tirerack.com:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...eral/speed.jsp
M 81 mph
N 87 mph
P 93 mph
Q 99 mph
R 106 mph
S 112 mph
T 118 mph
U 124 mph
H 130 mph
V 149 mph
Old 12-16-2004 | 03:01 PM
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This is bogus. Our cars CAME with H rated (130mph) tires, and that is what I have on my car.

Z-rated is for anything that is over 149mph, usually you can get the exact data from the manufacturer. Many of the upper Z-rated tires can go up to insane speeds.

Hate to burst your bubble - touring tires will ride soft, but don't grip as well as sport tires. IE Michelin Energy's are great tires for everyday use by grandma, but don't hold worth a shit compared to any of the Pilots. I'd take it back and demand they swap to the tires that you really want. They lied to you, even if it's a typo in their system. Take them the manual of the car and show them. Don't let them charge you for any use of the tires you have now either, it's their fucking fault.
Old 12-16-2004 | 03:07 PM
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yeah always thought H-rated is good enought for 130.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/broc.../tireTypes.jsp
discount tires show
w-rated 168mph
y-rated 186mph
z-rated 149mph+
Old 12-16-2004 | 03:20 PM
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I dont speed so M-Rated tires are fine for me
Old 12-16-2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
This is bogus. Our cars CAME with H rated (130mph) tires, and that is what I have on my car.

Z-rated is for anything that is over 149mph, usually you can get the exact data from the manufacturer. Many of the upper Z-rated tires can go up to insane speeds.

Hate to burst your bubble - touring tires will ride soft, but don't grip as well as sport tires. IE Michelin Energy's are great tires for everyday use by grandma, but don't hold worth a shit compared to any of the Pilots. I'd take it back and demand they swap to the tires that you really want. They lied to you, even if it's a typo in their system. Take them the manual of the car and show them. Don't let them charge you for any use of the tires you have now either, it's their fucking fault.
Agree Agree Agree! I use H rated on my factory rims.
Old 12-16-2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Actually I went there cause I thought they were supposed to be cheaper, but they seemed to be more expensive.

I purchased Bridgestone RE750s at $166 each, including Road Hazard warranty, installation/balance... Tirerack wanted more for the tire, and that didn't include shipping-
Old 12-16-2004 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
I dont speed so M-Rated tires are fine for me
you dont want that. even if u dont go over 81mph the weight of our car would wear those tires out quick. and when u turn u'll feel the car shifting. hit a bump and forget about the tires.
Old 12-16-2004 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgarFanCLS
Where is this 108mph number coming from? Everywhere I've seen, H-rated is good for up to 130mph. That's directly from tirerack.com:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...eral/speed.jsp
M 81 mph
N 87 mph
P 93 mph
Q 99 mph
R 106 mph
S 112 mph
T 118 mph
U 124 mph
H 130 mph
V 149 mph

How it is gonna be in alphabetical order and then they just throw an H in some random spot
Old 12-16-2004 | 10:56 PM
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what's the big deal? he saved 40 bucks...h, z, or v rated is not a big deal...his car won't even go past 140mph..and why would he need to go 100+ mph on public roads?

you dont want that. even if u dont go over 81mph the weight of our car would wear those tires out quick. and when u turn u'll feel the car shifting. hit a bump and forget about the tires.
i hope you know the speed rating has nothing to do with treadwear
Old 12-16-2004 | 11:26 PM
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the speed rating DOES have to do with treadwear......if you notice, treadwear rating go down as speed ratings go up. (In general)

Also- if your tires blow and you wreck or die, the place that puts lower-than-OE specified speed rated tires on can be sued---At least they can in North Carolina.



Also, the 108 MPH number came not from MAXIMUM speed, but from CONSISTENT speed. H-rated tires can go UP TO 130 M.P.H., however, staying at or over 108 M.P.H. for extended periods can cause a blowout.
Old 12-16-2004 | 11:40 PM
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Old 12-17-2004 | 02:20 AM
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i buy kirkland tires; as well as kirkland underwear.
Old 12-17-2004 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
i buy kirkland tires; as well as kirkland underwear.
Kinda sad, I have to say...
Old 12-17-2004 | 03:09 AM
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underwear? who wears that stuff these days?
Old 12-17-2004 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443
the speed rating DOES have to do with treadwear......if you notice, treadwear rating go down as speed ratings go up. (In general)
you are trying to relate two unrelated things based on a general trendline

treadlife is determined by how hard or soft a tire compound is..obviously softer = more grip, less life

speed rating is determined by a maximum speed a tire can safely go..it has nothing to do with the tire compound but how the tire is constructed and what types of materials are used to hold it together

tire manufacturers will construct a tire that has a high speed rating and low tread rating because they figure if a person needs to go 100+ they are using the tire for racing and want it to grip...is there any point in making a z rated tire with a treadwear of 700? no there isn't

this is why you'll see some z rated tires have a treadwear of 200 and other z rated tires with a treadwear of 400...speed rating is speed rating and treadwear is treadwear
Old 12-17-2004 | 03:21 PM
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yes, see, but you admitted I was right as well. I never said speed rating affects treadwear and vice versa. I just said that they have to do with each other. And your reasoning of companies is EXACTLY my argument!
Old 12-17-2004 | 04:37 PM
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no, you are overgeneralizing..it's like saying "run 17's because the lower profile tire will give you better handling"...it's right to an extent but still very wrong
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