This is why GM is failing
11-26-2009, 07:16 PM
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I had a Dodge Caliber rental for 2 months and it was brutal. The drivetrain was pathetic. The engine was anemic and sounded like a broken blender. Suspension tuning was non-existent. It was was too soft and the body rolled a ton. Additionally, the interior was one of the worst I've ever been in. It was spartan and I honestly could have build a better quality one myself.
11-26-2009, 07:50 PM
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by shallow I mean less than 2" deep and as for the CL at least you can remove the insert..... and they can hold a large Mc D's cup without spilling it over when you make a turn....
for the others claiming that the list is maint......
how in the world is a poor beam pattern a maint issue?
how is the fact that the car has poor interior lighting a maint issue?
the windshield wipes are not a maint issue. it is GM being cheap and using as little rubber in the blade as possible....
but hey that's OK you guys want to put up with crap like that, more power to you.........
You know today is 2010 and some of this things could have been a little more thought out and it would have made a huge difference in the overall impresson of the car....
btw just becuase the car is small does not mean the driving position should be cramped. even in a yaris you do not feel cramped like this car...
for the others claiming that the list is maint......
how in the world is a poor beam pattern a maint issue?
how is the fact that the car has poor interior lighting a maint issue?
the windshield wipes are not a maint issue. it is GM being cheap and using as little rubber in the blade as possible....
but hey that's OK you guys want to put up with crap like that, more power to you.........
You know today is 2010 and some of this things could have been a little more thought out and it would have made a huge difference in the overall impresson of the car....
btw just becuase the car is small does not mean the driving position should be cramped. even in a yaris you do not feel cramped like this car...
And ergonomically, you are used to a Japanese vehicle. Often, it takes time to get used to a North American car especially if you have been driving the former for many years.
I urge you to go try out the other cars I suggested from earlier before you harp on GM being as terrible. Perhaps the Cobalt is indeed a bucket of bolts...but, if you want a comparable ride to your current Acura, I'd suggest something along the lines of the G8 or the CTS. You'll be surprised.
11-26-2009, 09:14 PM
#43
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^ ur right I am used to stuff being well laid out but this is redicilous. I just sayin' that if this was the first GM i had ever bought, it would definately deter me from buying something else in their lineup.... like other's have mentioned their more expensive cars also suffer from the same general lack of detail.....
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11-26-2009, 11:54 PM
#44
I came into this thread since I saw another discussion on another forum (on another site) that was also called "Why GM is failing" and it had something to do with how GM has to pay like shitloads of millions in pensions out to workers from decades ago.
btw wtf was up with Pontiac, towards the end? I hear the G8 was good, but the rest seemed to be pretty...
btw wtf was up with Pontiac, towards the end? I hear the G8 was good, but the rest seemed to be pretty...
11-27-2009, 02:42 AM
#46
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It hasn't been pretty, but it was necessary for the system to fail in order to allow future growth in Detroit.
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