So when I start after stopping at a stop sign, my RPM goes through the roof because I hate starting slow. I have an Acura RL 2005 and want to try manual if it means I can get better starts and not have the engine almost redline. What is the best RPM to shift from first gear to second in order to get the fastest starts without wasting too much gas?

 

What?

Faster starts will use more gas no matter what. You have an auto, just hold the pedal down and let the car shift. Letting it redline will get you the most out of each gear provided you don't have a modern turbo car.

How old are you? Stop racing from stop signs.

 

The j35 engine found in the RL has certain characteristics. All Honda's display this characteristic. We make peak power at redline.

Learn the characteristic's of the car!!!

 

These engines are not like others found in trucks and passenger cars.
Those engines make peak torque at or around 2000rpm.

 

Shift at redline... Red means moar power

 

Neutral drop ftw.

 

Not really true anymore. Even a Jeep Wrangler revs up nowadays (even though it would benefit greatly from down low torque). 2016 wrangler 285 hp @ 6400 rpm, 260 @ 4800 rpm.

Your living in in the past man, you gotta contemporize.

 

You're right, I remember when the 3.7 v6 Stang came out, I was like... Hey!!! They stole Acuras technology!! High revving v6( or relatively high revving)

 

We had a guy on cherokeeforum saying the new wranglers were slow compared to his mid 90's XJ. What we found out was he was shifting it like his mid 90's XJ, not like a modern engine. If you shifted it properly, the wrangler accelerates about as fast as a 5th gen prelude (cornering is a different story).

 

The answer is 42. [/thread]

 

And I got my quote wrong.

 

The transmission is smarter than you.

 

Ford also "stole" the DOHC v6 formula from Honda, by putting a high revving DOHC v8 in every Mustang GT these days; Honda hasn't used the DOHC v6 since 2005 and the ONLY car to have it then was the NSX.

 

i lol'd

 

The good old OHV days...

These days, low end torque isn't as easy to come across it seems...

Honda never really had it...

The only torquie Honda I know of is the old 2.5 in the Acura Vigor...

A couple of weeks ago, I was driving a GMC Yukon with the 5.3 V8... I punched the gas maybe a little more than half way, then immediately let off, the whole thing took me 1.0 second tops... I swear, that thing jumped off the ground and leaped like a grasshopper 15 feet!!!

I know, after driving 4 cylinders my whole life, it's kind of nice to hear a deep vroom, and be a whole vehicle length ahead in .5 seconds, haha...

Well, if you want low-end out of an RL, just be grateful you don't drive an F23 Accord or CL, those things have ZERO torque below 3,000 RPM, and I mean ZERO!!!

A 3.5 RL is somewhere in between, sadly, there isn't much you can do, or atleast anything that's cheap...

 

Wrangler doesn't really need down low torque. If it does, you just slide that lever into the 4Lo position and you have all the torque in the world.

 

FWIW 2017 NSX has DOHC

 

You have no idea what you are talking about .

 

I skimmed through the beginning of the thread, OP wants to take off fast, and shift low for better FE....

Not really possible with an RL, or really any Honda/Acura, so I offered what I could...

 

All off road vehicles can benefit from low end torque. If you think the V6 that replaced the iconic 4.0 straight 6 is a better engine for a jeep I can find you about 1 million jeep owners who disagree. CAFE fuel standards are the only reason that switch was made. In 4WD LO my 4.0 doesn't even require input from the gas pedal, all you have to do is let up the clutch and it starts driving forward. If you try that in the modern wrangler you will most likely buck and stall because it doesn't have the torque where off roaders want it.

 

I had a 2002 dodge ram that had a 3.7l v6, but it made most of its power down low. Equipped with 5mt. I thought I was cool. Lol

 

Let me break this down real quick..

fast start + minimal gas wasting + 05+ RL =


Just not possible with that 4k slug, ask me how I know..

 

Shift when your car sounds weird.

 

I had a buddy in high school who bought a 1979 Saab 99 gl (although he thought it was an EMS). When he test drove it the kid he was buying it from told him he was "short shifting it" (it had no tach). His exact words were "you gotta let it go until the engine keeps getting louder but your not speeding up anymore, then shift it".

I'd suggest this method.

 

Do cars still have shift lights!? Also, I remember manual trucks having this little chip key that you had to have inserted, underneath the front seat

 

Get a set of high performance tires and the RL will do sub-3 second 0-60.
Also make sure you get HID headlight fluid if you drive fast at night.

 

RLX SH AWD, not just any regular RL

 

Shift around 8300 or so.

Oh wait.. wrong forum!

 

I thought it was around 12000

 

Right forum, wrong thread! That's about where I shift at.

 

That's cute

 

damn bikes

 

cbr250rr ftw

 

A car with no tach is stupid, a manual car with no tack is absurd... I nearly died when I saw a 5 speed Civic with no tach, like, what the heck!!!

 

why do you need a tach to drive? a good driver can drive a manual with no tach... what's absurd is a tach in an auto for day to day driving...

 

when the engine sounds angry.... shift

 

Want one so bad.

 

A guy(?) trying to hold on to a POS Camry with a dead motor is....

 

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You are supposed to shift by feel although it's nice to know where redline is.