What are the most overlooked cars in these price ranges?
01-02-2007, 04:32 PM
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What are the most overlooked cars in these price ranges?
Do you think there are some really great cars out there that people just don't consider or forget about? What new (2006/2007) cars do you feel are most overlooked in these price ranges:
* Under $20,000
* $20,000 - $25,000
* $26,000 - $35,000
* $36,000 - $45,000
* $46,000 - $55,000
* $56,000 - $70,000
* $70,000 - $100,000
* Under $20,000
* $20,000 - $25,000
* $26,000 - $35,000
* $36,000 - $45,000
* $46,000 - $55,000
* $56,000 - $70,000
* $70,000 - $100,000
01-02-2007, 04:52 PM
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* Under $20,000 -- I would say the Mazda 3.
Although there are a lot on the road here (proving they are very popular), I think people who are looking to spend more money (eg: $25,000) often overlook the good value and quality of a vehicle that is less expensive. I know the Mazda 3 surprised me when I drove it, and originally I only went to check out the 6 (which I ended up not liking).
Although there are a lot on the road here (proving they are very popular), I think people who are looking to spend more money (eg: $25,000) often overlook the good value and quality of a vehicle that is less expensive. I know the Mazda 3 surprised me when I drove it, and originally I only went to check out the 6 (which I ended up not liking).
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01-02-2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
* Under $20,000 -- I would say the Mazda 3.
Although there are a lot on the road here (proving they are very popular), I think people who are looking to spend more money (eg: $25,000) often overlook the good value and quality of a vehicle that is less expensive. I know the Mazda 3 surprised me when I drove it, and originally I only went to check out the 6 (which I ended up not liking).
Although there are a lot on the road here (proving they are very popular), I think people who are looking to spend more money (eg: $25,000) often overlook the good value and quality of a vehicle that is less expensive. I know the Mazda 3 surprised me when I drove it, and originally I only went to check out the 6 (which I ended up not liking).
01-02-2007, 06:37 PM
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Relative to their competition:
* Under $20,000 - Cobalt
* $20,000 - $25,000 - G6
* $26,000 - $35,000 - A4/TL
* $36,000 - $45,000 - A4/TL
* $46,000 - $55,000 - RL
* $56,000 - $70,000 - XJ8
* $70,000 - $100,000 - A8
* Under $20,000 - Cobalt
* $20,000 - $25,000 - G6
* $26,000 - $35,000 - A4/TL
* $36,000 - $45,000 - A4/TL
* $46,000 - $55,000 - RL
* $56,000 - $70,000 - XJ8
* $70,000 - $100,000 - A8
01-03-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
Audi's all together are pretty overlooked
The only thing I saw in the Audi line was the A8L, which fills the notch between the 745Li and 750Li.
01-03-2007, 10:45 AM
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Anything Hyundai. Especially the Sonata and new Sante Fe.
01-03-2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Anything Hyundai. Especially the Sonata and new Sante Fe.
But generally speaking, if a car doesn't sell well, there's probably a reason for it IMO.
But generally speaking, if a car doesn't sell well, there's probably a reason for it IMO.
Case in point Mercury. Why does anyone buy these? I don't even remember the last time I saw one of these on the road. They're just rebadged Fords with a premium tacked on to it. That's their reputation and that's why I won't drive one or even walk in a dealership...if I could even find one.
01-03-2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aesir11
I can think of one off the top of my head.
* $36,000 - $45,000
M45. As nice as this car is, I'm surprised I don't see more of them on the road.
* $36,000 - $45,000
M45. As nice as this car is, I'm surprised I don't see more of them on the road.
Probably because the M35 comes fairly close (in performance and amenities) to the M45 for less $$$ and offers optional AWD. That said, M45s I have come across sticker in the mid-upper $50k range.
01-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Probably because the M35 comes fairly close (in performance and amenities) to the M45 for less $$$ and offers optional AWD. That said, M45s I have come across sticker in the mid-upper $50k range.
I still don't see them often.
01-03-2007, 01:25 PM
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I do not see them often neither.....on one of those rare occassions, I ran one well into the triple digits on the NYS Thruway back in 2005 while in my 02 Maxima and held my own up to about 125-130mph when it moved ahead of me.
01-03-2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
When I was in Rome, I saw black Quattroportes all over with like 100% tints (not really but it was limo-dark). Completely awesome. +1 for those cars.
01-03-2007, 02:23 PM
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i agree with brand recognition and reputation being the reason hyundais are not selling. but they are being "overlooked" because many don't realize that hyundais are making sold cars now. or many just refuse to even look at a hyundai.
i also agree with the rl, a6, and a8.
i can't agree with the tl though.
i also agree with the rl, a6, and a8.
i can't agree with the tl though.
01-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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I don't know about the audis being overlooked. I see lots of them daily, mostly a6's and a4's, in fact I'd saw more than I see MB's and just slightly less than BMWs.
01-03-2007, 02:41 PM
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For the under $20,000 category, I think the xA/xB are overlooked by a lot of people because of their styling. The build quality was surprisingly good for a car of that price.
And of course the Mazda3. I was blown away by it, particularly the S with the manual. Great performance, handling and quality for the price.
And of course the Mazda3. I was blown away by it, particularly the S with the manual. Great performance, handling and quality for the price.
01-03-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
It's overlooked 'cause it's a piece of crap. 
01-03-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I have no actually driven the Cobalt but have sat in them and they seem to be MUCH nicer than the Cavaliers they replaced.
When the last generation first came out, they were already 5 years outdated the first day they went on sale!
01-03-2007, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
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01-03-2007, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
But generally speaking, if a car doesn't sell well, there's probably a reason for it IMO.
01-03-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
that's still not saying much considering how bad Cavaliers/Sunfires were.
When the last generation first came out, they were already 5 years outdated the first day they went on sale!
When the last generation first came out, they were already 5 years outdated the first day they went on sale!
01-03-2007, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by aesir11
Mercedes and BMW cast a big shadow over Audi. Show me where dollar for dollar any Audi car beats a BMW car. (except the RS4, which I'll admit schools the current M3)
The only thing I saw in the Audi line was the A8L, which fills the notch between the 745Li and 750Li.
The only thing I saw in the Audi line was the A8L, which fills the notch between the 745Li and 750Li.
01-03-2007, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CCns24
Try driving any BMW vs an Audi in the snow and get back to me. Quattro > any other AWD system...
01-04-2007, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
...point is retarded advance > no advance at all.
01-04-2007, 11:23 AM
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I haven't shopped these cars but whatever, lets take a look at just how terrible these Cobalts are...
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...3971&v=t102706
So ... outside of resale, what makes the Cobalt such a terrible car? The engine in the Cobalt is more powerful, the Civic has SLIGHTLY better crash ratings. You can get limited slip in both cars... the Civic comes with a 6 speed, but the Cobalt will have to shift less especially with 70 more ft/lbs of torque.
What are you all bitching about now?
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...3971&v=t102706
So ... outside of resale, what makes the Cobalt such a terrible car? The engine in the Cobalt is more powerful, the Civic has SLIGHTLY better crash ratings. You can get limited slip in both cars... the Civic comes with a 6 speed, but the Cobalt will have to shift less especially with 70 more ft/lbs of torque.
What are you all bitching about now?
01-04-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by aesir11
I haven't shopped these cars but whatever, lets take a look at just how terrible these Cobalts are...
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...3971&v=t102706
So ... outside of resale, what makes the Cobalt such a terrible car? The engine in the Cobalt is more powerful, the Civic has SLIGHTLY better crash ratings. You can get limited slip in both cars... the Civic comes with a 6 speed, but the Cobalt will have to shift less especially with 70 more ft/lbs of torque.
What are you all bitching about now?
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...3971&v=t102706
So ... outside of resale, what makes the Cobalt such a terrible car? The engine in the Cobalt is more powerful, the Civic has SLIGHTLY better crash ratings. You can get limited slip in both cars... the Civic comes with a 6 speed, but the Cobalt will have to shift less especially with 70 more ft/lbs of torque.
What are you all bitching about now?
I've driven the Cobalt (it was actually a Pontiac Pursuit) and I didn't think it was all that bad. Leaps and bounds better than the Cavalier. Interior materials were still kinda cheap but overall, not a bad car, especially for the price.
My brother in law has had one for almost 2 years now and as far as I know, not one problem.
01-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Better yet, live somewhere where there is no snow and drive a BMW.
(well, it's more jealousy...)
But yes, in that case BMW > Audi (sans RS4...it is a beast!!)
01-04-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
Very much agree with that one! Have been dropping by a dealer to check them out every model year for the past few years. Very good bang for the buck, although interior quality still wasn't what I was expecting when I visited last. Definitely gaining popularity though.
Those cars are still coming up short...
01-05-2007, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
Very much agree with that one! Have been dropping by a dealer to check them out every model year for the past few years. Very good bang for the buck, although interior quality still wasn't what I was expecting when I visited last. Definitely gaining popularity though.
