what do you guys think of 2002 audi A8?
08-07-2007, 04:12 PM
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what do you guys think of 2002 audi A8?
i'm getting married in 3 months and i wanna get a big comfy used luxury car around 15-18k. there is an audi A8 near me(i'm in a lake county, chicago right now) with 65k miles on it. it's clean and man, i always loved a8's understated design. also i found several ls400 under 70-80k miles but it's bit more than my price range. also XJ's are very cheap and i always loved classy jaguars.
well, would you ever buy a previous gen luxo flagships? like 740il, ls400, q45, s430, JX8 and etc? i really want something comfy especially for the people who will sit in the back. in laws(3 of them) will come visit chicago from korea frequently and i want them to be comfortable. we are going to live near gurnee(45miles north of chicago) and they will want to go visit downtown alot.
or just forget about it and get a used g35 or something smaller but under 40-50k miles? i really want a v8 though.. i'm even considering a caddy deville. lol
well, what do you guys think?
well, would you ever buy a previous gen luxo flagships? like 740il, ls400, q45, s430, JX8 and etc? i really want something comfy especially for the people who will sit in the back. in laws(3 of them) will come visit chicago from korea frequently and i want them to be comfortable. we are going to live near gurnee(45miles north of chicago) and they will want to go visit downtown alot.
or just forget about it and get a used g35 or something smaller but under 40-50k miles? i really want a v8 though.. i'm even considering a caddy deville. lol
well, what do you guys think?
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08-07-2007, 04:19 PM
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=39
-e55 amg.
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is 70-80k mile that big of a problem? are german cars that unreliable? i'm kinda scared because i've never bought a high mileage cars before.
-e55 amg.
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=51
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is 70-80k mile that big of a problem? are german cars that unreliable? i'm kinda scared because i've never bought a high mileage cars before.
08-07-2007, 04:33 PM
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For me to get a used car like that it would have to be something I really wanted but couldn't afford. You know it is going to be expensive to maintain, its an expensive German car. So unless you've loved it since you saw an S8 in Ronin or something I would get something with lower miles. Good luck
08-07-2007, 04:33 PM
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The German choices you list are complicated, expensive to fix, and not nearly as reliable as they should be. Sad to say, but its true. If I had to do it, I'd go with a '98-'01 Mercedes E class. The BMW and A8 could potentially destroy you with repair and unscheduled maintenence costs. The LS400 would be ideal if you could swing it.
08-07-2007, 04:48 PM
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I love the A8. Love it. But fixing it scared the shit out of me.
I'd only buy one if I was making enough money that I was throwing it into a car rather than on hookers and coke.
I'd only buy one if I was making enough money that I was throwing it into a car rather than on hookers and coke.
08-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMirror
The German choices you list are complicated, expensive to fix, and not nearly as reliable as they should be. Sad to say, but its true. If I had to do it, I'd go with a '98-'01 Mercedes E class. The BMW and A8 could potentially destroy you with repair and unscheduled maintenence costs. The LS400 would be ideal if you could swing it.
Well maintained E classes are extremely easy to find. It is such an international staple bulletproof
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08-07-2007, 09:54 PM
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so basically stay away from german cars except E class? ouch, i really like that a8 though..
well, i'm gonna keep lookin and hopefully i don't change mind and be decisive this time.
well, i'm gonna keep lookin and hopefully i don't change mind and be decisive this time.
08-07-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
a Q45 should fit your budget nicely, while being reliable... 
yup. i'm gonna test drive that this weekend.
08-07-2007, 10:52 PM
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If you can get an 01 or newer LS 430 jump on it. My uncle has that car and is one of the most amazing cars ever. It averages 20 MPG or better and I swear you go off roading and that thing is so smooth you wouldnt even know it. You seriously cant even tell the car is on while driving it because its so silent. Also have outstanding reliablity. Granted the styling isnt anything special everything else in the car is.
08-07-2007, 10:57 PM
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If you could talk them down on the price a little bit that would be an AWESOME car.
If you could talk them down on the price a little bit that would be an AWESOME car.
08-08-2007, 12:22 AM
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yup, gotta love those big old lexus.
well, i guess i'm gonna test drive all of them. hope i don't settle for an accord or maxima. gosh, i shouldn't ask you guys for an advice because i really wanted that a8.
well, i guess i'm gonna test drive all of them. hope i don't settle for an accord or maxima. gosh, i shouldn't ask you guys for an advice because i really wanted that a8.
08-08-2007, 12:24 AM
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what about last gen m45? i rarely see these on the road. i personally love the 'pimp' looks, but i don't know why it didn't sell.
what about last gen m45? i rarely see these on the road. i personally love the 'pimp' looks, but i don't know why it didn't sell.
08-08-2007, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Be sure you can only buy the car but also be able to AFFORD it. I'm guessing maintenance on an older 60k audi will be expensive as shit
08-08-2007, 03:55 AM
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If you can get an 01 or newer LS 430 jump on it. My uncle has that car and is one of the most amazing cars ever. It averages 20 MPG or better and I swear you go off roading and that thing is so smooth you wouldnt even know it. You seriously cant even tell the car is on while driving it because its so silent. Also have outstanding reliablity. Granted the styling isnt anything special everything else in the car is.
The LS, while rather simple/bland looking, is an awesome car. Best car in that class IMO.
And while I love the design and styling of German cars, they're just too expensive to maintain. Wanted an A4, but the cost of maintenance scared me.
08-08-2007, 04:26 AM
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I love the 1st gen Infiniti M45's...
They say in Japan... only the mob drive'em
not to mention they are fast as hell
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
They say in Japan... only the mob drive'em
not to mention they are fast as hell http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
08-08-2007, 06:48 AM
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I love the 1st gen Infiniti M45's...
They say in Japan... only the mob drive'em not to mention they are fast as hell
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
They say in Japan... only the mob drive'em
not to mention they are fast as hell http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
the window sticker says 1k less than the advertised price.
08-08-2007, 08:15 AM
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A4's have been pretty reliable over the last few years. A6's have started coming around too... as have the A8's. Unfortunately the 8's only just started coming around.
So, I'd stay far away from a 2002 A8. If you were talking 2005 or 2006 it would be a different story, but no way I'd look at a 2002. Even then I'd be a little nervous as the 8's still have a way to go before they catch up with the A4's as far as reliability.
So, I'd stay far away from a 2002 A8. If you were talking 2005 or 2006 it would be a different story, but no way I'd look at a 2002. Even then I'd be a little nervous as the 8's still have a way to go before they catch up with the A4's as far as reliability.
08-08-2007, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
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what about last gen m45? i rarely see these on the road. i personally love the 'pimp' looks, but i don't know why it didn't sell.
what about last gen m45? i rarely see these on the road. i personally love the 'pimp' looks, but i don't know why it didn't sell.
You simply cannot go wrong with either the Q45 or the M45 you posted earlier.
08-08-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I thought Infiniti, like Lexus, was only sold in the US?
The Current gen M45 is called the Nissan Fuga 450GT.
08-08-2007, 09:44 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, the old m45 eats ALOT of gas...
Not worth it IMO.
08-08-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by synth19
If I'm not mistaken, the old m45 eats ALOT of gas...
You are not mistaken...city/hwy mix is about 17 mpg. That's 10 less than my CL-S.
Most of the cars on his list aren't much better though.
I'd still take one.
08-08-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
You are not mistaken...city/hwy mix is about 17 mpg. That's 10 less than my CL-S.
Most of the cars on his list aren't much better though.
I'd still take one.
Most of the cars on his list aren't much better though.
I'd still take one.
The previous generation M45 was a nice driving car, but has a fairly small interior. It seemed to have less rear legroom than the TSX, let alone the CL-S, when I rode in the back with average size people in front and rear.
08-08-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
OP chungkopi wanted a car to take his family around, which means he needs room in the back.
The previous generation M45 was a nice driving car, but has a fairly small interior. It seemed to have less rear legroom than the TSX, let alone the CL-S, when I rode in the back with average size people in front and rear.
The previous generation M45 was a nice driving car, but has a fairly small interior. It seemed to have less rear legroom than the TSX, let alone the CL-S, when I rode in the back with average size people in front and rear.
Originally Posted by Edmunds
M45:
Rear Leg Room: 32.5 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
Q45:
Rear Leg Room: 37.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.6 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 14 cu. ft.
CL:
Rear Leg Room: 33 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.6 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 14 cu. ft.
TSX:
Rear Leg Room: 34.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
Rear Leg Room: 32.5 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
Q45:
Rear Leg Room: 37.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.6 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 14 cu. ft.
CL:
Rear Leg Room: 33 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.6 cu. ft.
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 14 cu. ft.
TSX:
Rear Leg Room: 34.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
08-08-2007, 12:55 PM
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I hate that name Fuga, it's too close to fugly 
08-08-2007, 01:20 PM
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It's even more sad when you compare it to the CL. Granted, the CL isn't exactly tiny for a coupe, but it's a freakin 2-door coupe for pete's sake!
Originally Posted by chungkopi
crap! i didn't know m45's rear leg room was that small! i always thought that car was huge!
08-08-2007, 01:32 PM
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here my choices. my budget is now under 17k.
1. 2004 maxima $15,900- leather, manual and only 47k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=30
2. 2000 ls400-$15,800-79k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=45
3. 1999 e430-$13,995-59k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=36
4. 1998 ls400-$12,495-62k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=42
or just get a brand new hyundai sonata for around 19k or used accord LX...
what ever i chose, i need a new car by september 1st. wish me luck guys..
1. 2004 maxima $15,900- leather, manual and only 47k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=30
2. 2000 ls400-$15,800-79k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=45
3. 1999 e430-$13,995-59k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=36
4. 1998 ls400-$12,495-62k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=42
or just get a brand new hyundai sonata for around 19k or used accord LX...
what ever i chose, i need a new car by september 1st. wish me luck guys..
08-08-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
crap! i didn't know m45's rear leg room was that small! i always thought that car was huge!
By the way, the front isn't very spacious either, and I don't think anyone over 6'1" will fit at all.
It's a nice-driving car though, and I personally prefer the exterior design to that of the present M35/M45 (although I do like the G35 sedan's looks!).
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
here my choices. my budget is now under 17k.
1. 2004 maxima $15,900- leather, manual and only 47k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=30
2. 2000 ls400-$15,800-79k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=45
3. 1999 e430-$13,995-59k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=36
4. 1998 ls400-$12,495-62k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=42
or just get a brand new hyundai sonata for around 19k or used accord LX...
what ever i chose, i need a new car by september 1st. wish me luck guys..
1. 2004 maxima $15,900- leather, manual and only 47k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=30
2. 2000 ls400-$15,800-79k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=45
3. 1999 e430-$13,995-59k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=36
4. 1998 ls400-$12,495-62k miles
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=42
or just get a brand new hyundai sonata for around 19k or used accord LX...
what ever i chose, i need a new car by september 1st. wish me luck guys..
08-08-2007, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
it's because of the hungry VQ engine.