What do you all think about the Mazdaspeed6?

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Old 02-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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What do you all think about the Mazdaspeed6?

My cousin is thinking about a Mazdaspeed6. He said that he likes that it has AWD, 270hp, it's not that common, and is fast.

I told him it's a nice car, but I told him that for the price $30,000 he could get an Evo, WRX Sti, or even the new 07 G35x for $3,000 more.

What do you think of the Mazdaspeed6?
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It's a very nice looking car IMO. I love the exterior styling and the interior is pretty nice as well. I haven't heard of any issues with the Speed6 either, but I haven't followed them that closely either.

Like you said though, for $3k more, I would opt for the G35x.......but I guess I am a little biased.
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I honestly have it, i had an evo before it ...

For the money get an evo, you wont regret, i hate this car compared to my last

Its nice cause its luxurious, feels like a bmw, and is pretty reliable so far

I honestly should ahve got a bmw 3 series for the same payments, or kept the evo
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I had some fun with one the other day Very fast off the line but drops flat on its face top end.
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iirc, the speed6 awd is fwd bias, with the rear kicking it at the sign of slippage.

can anyone confirm?

Its new "active torque split" all-wheel-drive system uses sensor input, including steering angle, yaw rate, lateral force and engine rpm, to adjust front/rear torque distribution anywhere from 100/0 to 50/50.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdr...azdaspeed6.htm

i think it's a very good value. at least in canada, i've read around other boards that mazda has been giving significant discounts.

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I drove the piss out of it at the Mazda driving event. I hated every second of it, and I hate Mazda now, period.

I wouldn't give them my money, but that's just me.
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I kinda looked into it, but after much research... I'm on the verge to trade my 02' TL-S for a Subaru Legacy GT Limited (05' or 06'). I know the "Leggy" isn't much to look at as far as styling goes, but I'm more into performance than looks. And at the same time I'm not going to get a WRX or Evo either. I'm 36 Not 16
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I know the "Leggy" isn't much to look at as far as styling goes
yep, not much to look at.

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don't get me wrong.... a leggy like that is rare... Of course, if I get one... I'd probably work on getting it to look like that...


damn! that's sweet! do you know what kit that is?

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Old 02-24-2007, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
yep, not much to look at.

What kind of grill and bumper is that?
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4 cyl. engine even a potent one is out of place in a 30K$ car with luxury aspirations.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
4 cyl. engine even a potent one is out of place in a 30K$ car with luxury aspirations.
How about the TSX is it out of place for being almost a $30K car?

Btw, talked to my friend and he is going to test drive the Mazdaspeed6 and might test drive the G35x too.
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The Mazdaspeed 6 has so many issues with its driving experience that it honestly is probably the worst of the group of cars he could consider.

Some larger issues that people have mentioned in other threads:
- on/off non-linear nature of the clutch
- AWD system reacts too slowly
- loss of power when ambient temperatures increase and as heat soak sets in
- loss of power when not using 93 octane fuel

Honestly, the Legacy GT offers basically everything the Mazdaspeed 6 offers but in a cleaner looking package for a few grand less.
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Maybe I'll mention to him the Legacy too.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
How about the TSX is it out of place for being almost a $30K car?
Exactly. Even Mercedes changed their 4 cyl. in their C-Class for a V6. America.
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I dont really like Mazdas to much after the RX7. I really like the Legacy though
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
The Mazdaspeed 6 has so many issues with its driving experience that it honestly is probably the worst of the group of cars he could consider.

Some larger issues that people have mentioned in other threads:
- on/off non-linear nature of the clutch
- AWD system reacts too slowly
- loss of power when ambient temperatures increase and as heat soak sets in
- loss of power when not using 93 octane fuel

Honestly, the Legacy GT offers basically everything the Mazdaspeed 6 offers but in a cleaner looking package for a few grand less.
I couldn't agree more. I have to say that the engine/steering/suspension dynamics are pretty much perfect though. I would still get the subaru.
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Originally Posted by is300eater
don't get me wrong.... a leggy like that is rare... Of course, if I get one... I'd probably work on getting it to look like that...


damn! that's sweet! do you know what kit that is?
If you do a search, you'll also find Legacy STi pics on this forum.


And well now, those are hawt.
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Originally Posted by is300eater
don't get me wrong.... a leggy like that is rare...
here's mine with stock bumpers. not exactly stock though.




I get what you're saying. although I still think the GT looks nice stock.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
4 cyl. engine even a potent one is out of place in a 30K$ car with luxury aspirations.
the car is definately more sports than luxury. It's fairly raw in some respects that's for sure. but it's so moddable and fun to drive, plus it has an awesome AWD system. I paid 26K for my fully loaded GT btw.
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Originally Posted by mattg
yep, not much to look at.

that looks awesome!
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
that looks awesome!
+1, that looks very hot!!
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I heard you can get Mazdaspeed 6 less than Mazdaspeed 3 which is less than 25K.
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I test drive the car when it's first came out. The power is good, handling is better than what I expected. But for that amount of money, to be honest, I"ll go for something else other than Mazda. I know this is a bit stereotype, but at least that is what me and my gf thinks when we drove the car.
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Originally Posted by mattg
here's mine with stock bumpers. not exactly stock though.




I get what you're saying. although I still think the GT looks nice stock.
ugh! I want one so bad now... but I might have to wait another month before I'm ready to buy... what sucks is... there are a couple of used one's in Southern Cali. (dealers), and I'm tempted to go check'em out, but I'll probably drive away in one... (it's a black mt!)
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Originally Posted by cheepung
I heard you can get Mazdaspeed 6 less than Mazdaspeed 3 which is less than 25K.
Yup...they are not selling well at all.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
My cousin is thinking about a Mazdaspeed6. He said that he likes that it has AWD, 270hp, it's not that common, and is fast.

I told him it's a nice car, but I told him that for the price $30,000 he could get an Evo, WRX Sti, or even the new 07 G35x for $3,000 more.

What do you think of the Mazdaspeed6?
They can be had for way less than $30k
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Yup...they are not selling well at all.
Just curious why aren't they selling well?

My cousin is going to test drive the Legacy next.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Just curious why aren't they selling well?

My cousin is going to test drive the Legacy next.

make sure it's the Legacy GT , I test drove an 05' last night, and... Can I just say? (and that was an automatic, can't wait to test drive the MT!)

I want one even move now!
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Alright cool I'll let him now.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Just curious why aren't they selling well?

My cousin is going to test drive the Legacy next.
For all the reaons that I listed before.

The local dealers around here have been trying to unload their entire stock of Mazdaspeed 6 sedans at a hair above invoice. In fact, I saw a Grand Touring model being sold for $23995, brand new, and it has been on their lot for more than 4 months now. It's a beautiful color too, but it just isn't selling because there is so much about it to dislike.
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Now my cousin told me that he would also consider the Mazdaspeed3. Has anyone driven this yet?
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
What do you think of the Mazdaspeed6?

Feels like it's 500lbs too heavy. Like a cheap Audi.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Now my cousin told me that he would also consider the Mazdaspeed3. Has anyone driven this yet?
Check this site


http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?board=10.0

I love my Mazda3.
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+1 for all the legacy love in here. i like it

speed 6 is cool and at the price they are trying to get rid of them with its a sweet deal. obviously i prefer subie awd and tank like 2.5 block.

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^^^is your's Auto or MT?
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Legacy's ain't much to look at eh?

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I briefly entertained getting the LGT before purchasing AV6 but the wife has no interest in Subarus.

As for the subject car, the interior trim is simply too cheap to be a consideration of mine.
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I still dont think the Legacy is all that great looking but i would def choose the LGT over a MS6
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Originally Posted by Saintor
4 cyl. engine even a potent one is out of place in a 30K$ car with luxury aspirations.
So Audi = teh suck?


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