Raheel

I Know that Valentine One is the best but I need something under 200 Dollars..

I had recently bought A Whistler 1780 for about $9x from ebay and it does not work well.. it goes off all the time, false alarms and it has yet to go off when a cop is around.. Once there was a big accident and there were cops all over and I passed like 7-8 Cops and The Radar went off like 3 secs after I passed them.. I dont know but Im starting to believe radars suck or I got a Cheap Company one? Anyways I will be selling the Radar and expect to get $80 from a friend and was wondering whats the best under $200? THANKS

Beason

best bneides VAlentine i think is Passport 8500

Alexxx

There is really nothing good under $200. I have the Passport 8500, bought it for $300 off their website.

jdone

I have a passport solo-2 that I got new for $195. It's greatest virtue is no power cord. It is tons better than the detectors you get at Radio Shack or Target but no where near as good as the V-1 or Passport 8500. It is fine for normal commuting but I would not recommend it for you serious speeders.

asloudasitgets

valentine is best?
what model?

how much is it?

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Bel makes some good detectors. I have their cordless one and it's pretty good. May wind up springing for a V1 very soon.

NsX Pilot

If you got a heavy foot then you know the value of a good radar detector......you can pay now or pay later the choice is up to you.

www.radartest.com

go do some reading for those who want to buy one

magiviper

can you hide a radar detector? they are illegal in va and I want to get one really bad haha

Raheel

Well they all mostly have VG-2 which conceals the radar from being detected by Authorities.. And you can get K40 which is a lot more expensive but Unnoticable.. Also it is positioned under front and under rear bumpers so it has the best 360 Degrees Radar and It will go farther in Distance.. Also The display is small so if a cop pulls you over it is hard for him to notice.. http://www.stevessecurity.com/k40.htm
http://www.k40.com/

magiviper

yeah I found the one I think I want.. http://www.escortradar.com/srx.htm
radar test says its better then the k40

Raheel

Where can you put that so the cop doesnt notice it?
LIKE NO WHERE.. Unless you put it out of sight than theres no purpose for it.. and if cop stops u than you cannot move it as you will be in more trouble if he notices.. I just think drive safely or watch for cops.. Dont take the risk of doing something illegal in your state.. you will end up paying 4 times more than a ticket if you get caught with a Radar..

magiviper

you posted supporting me and giving me ideas.. then you told me it was a bad idea and that there was no way to hide it... huh?!

fsttyms1

8500 is better than my v1 by a hole sh!@ load

Raheel

Um Well I said the K40 is easy to hide but the escort you were looking at has a huge display that any one can see unlike the K40 that just has LEDS That light up..

Raheel

N/M I realized that the Red Leds are a Custom Built.


Go to http://radartest.com/REMRD.html

That should help u out

Raheel

I know what you mean, Everyone says V1 is the best and Car And Driver Swears by it and they are always going against each other on the Magazine Ads but like some tests prove 8500 is better Like this one http://radartest.com/DS4HEM.html
It gave the 8500 a whole 20 more points than the V1.. i dont get how V1 is the best in all other tests (LIKE CAR AND DRIVER TEST) but it sucks in others. Anyways I just think this whole thing is a opinion and experience thing.. Thats why im asking around to see whats the best under $200.. THANKS ALL

NsX Pilot

i personally dont think a $200 radar detector is even worth looking into ....unless its an older escort or valentine. Like i said u can pay now or pay later.... when u buy the best you may not like the price but im sure the rewards will always put a smile on ur face.

lawman

Will the Passport 8500, or any other detector, alert to pop radar?

lawman

OC2.598

I have a friend who just got a V-1 and it saved his butt several times already

NsX Pilot

im guessing ur refering to instant on radar... nothing will save ur butt at that point unless u got pictures of the guy in a compromising situation.

magiviper

instant on radar? dang.. that blows..

lawman

Not instant on. You can read what the manufacturer says about it HERE.


THIS is what Valentine has to say about it.

lawman

Raheel

What do you really believe?
I believe its impossible (for now atleast), it is in its early stages but yes this concept will well be adapted and a bullet proof way for cops to check your speed.. That day will kill everyone that has a radar but That day wont be here for at least a good 5 years... They have to have it bullet proof and 100% Right until it is released to cops.

lawman

Call me jaded, but the true efficacy of POP radar notwithstanding, I wouldn't want to get into a swearing contest with a cop unless I had an expert (costs money) on my side.

As to what I really believe, I don't have enough information to form a belief re POP radar. I'd like to have some more facts. In the meantime, for whatever it's worth, I'd also like my radar detector to be able to let me know it's being used.

lawman

Raheel

Nothing can Turn on and shoot signals and turn off that fast.. Thats impossible, anything has to warm up to send signals that far.. A Car TV doesnt just show me picture, the tv tube warms up for 2-3 secs... at least it takes 1 sec for something to warm up... This POP thing says it turns on - Sends signal that hits the car, an object, and back - than turns off in less than a sec.. Thats just unbelievable.. Yes I know science can do a lot nowadays but I gurantee this is a costly Option for cops, this wont be adapted for years TRUST ME..

lawman

I don't know whom to trust, you or the cops who tell they are using the POP radar.

lawman

Raheel

I actually heard of this SL1 or something like that.. Its called Same Lane Radar or something to that extent.. It is a progressive speed scanner that sends signals 24/7 to tell the cop if someone is speeding.. it just stays on and just tells the speed of any car in the same lane.. the cop doesnt have to point at anyone or anything.. its pretty cool but this SL thing is going to come more pretty soon.

Heres more info: http://www.radartest.com/RAFB.html

NsX Pilot

That was very informative but as i see it the officer still has to submit proof in court that you were speeding and submit proof that the method used was accurate. The radar company that makes that equipment has already written a disclaimer and you have a written statement from valentine one also disputing the accuracy of the pop technology in test . Most highway patrol still use the old technology and i dont think radar detectors are stopping them from catching someone speeding to the point where they are saying ....HEY WE NEED SOMETHING UNDETECTABLE SO WE CAN CATCH MORE SPEEDERS !!

lawman

If the new radar unit has been approved by the appropriate state agency, the burden then shifts to you to show it is faulty. I suspect getting Mr. Valentine to court to testify could be quite expensive (unless an exception exists under the law, evidentary rules require a live witness). Besides, a prosecutor would have a field day attacking the credibility of a witness whose business is making radar detectors. I know, I know - get an expert from an independent lab - we're back to expense again. Most would just pay the ticket.

lawman

NsX Pilot

Yes your right ... but as the manufacturer rite now cannot stand behind the accuracy of the product i dont see this unit getting approved for use by the highway patrol.

lawman

Off topic but funny (unless you're the one taking the test). My state has approved the CMI Intoxilyzer 5000 for use in state-administered breath tests (so have a lot of other states). Interestingly, the manufacturer does not warrant that the machine can actually give reliable breath test readings that will correlate to the test subject's blood alcohol level.

lawman

snapple

cool radar dector that escort make. but it has a big price tag:wow:

gohawks63

I've had the 8500 since December and I absolutely love it. I have literally, I MEAN LITERALLY caught K and Ka band more that 1.5 miles away.

POP mode seems to be flawed technology for now and I'm guessing a lawyer would have a field day with that disclaimer.

As for instant-on, any serious speeder knows that you always make sure there is some traffic up ahead when your speeding so that you can catch the residual radar. If it's 2am and you're the only one on the road? Better stay close to the limit because nothing will save you.

lawman

We would. The problem is finding a client willing and able to put up the money to defend a $200 ticket. For example, my fee for a non-contested traffic matter is $850. My fees for contested traffic matters BEGIN at $1750. And don't forget the logistics of trying to ascertain the proper person from the company who wrote the disclaimer, getting them properly subpoenaed, then coordinating your court date with their schedule (after all, they will probably be subpoenaed to other courts as well). Oh, and if you need an expert to boot, you can count on an expert witness fee of AT LEAST a thousand bucks.

If you're well-heeled enough to foot that bill, and if everything else finally falls into place, let the field day begin.

lawman

NsX Pilot

well one thing is for sure in this case....the lawyer always wins.

lawman

That's a good throw-away line. However, it's more correct to say that the lawyer always gets PAID.

Simply getting paid doesn't make anyone a winner (otherwise you'd be an automatic winner every Friday). As far as the outcome of my cases goes, I take it personally. If my client loses, so do I.

lawman

stiletto

Doode (lawman) you are setting yourself up for a flamethrower: Why worry about that POP chit if the focking company that produces the radar puts a disclaimer on the product it sells?

I don't know what type of law man you are, however, I can tell you the many law men and women I know here in FL are tight with law enforcement. Unless they are under the influence, I have yet to see one in court on speeding charges. Even me as a tourist in your state talked myself out of a speeding ticket clocked at 95 mph on the interstate by a GA trooper.

POP is dead, and if a law enforcer wants to detect you without being detected, all they need to use is VASCAR (granted, not at night).

BTW... I am not disputung the quality of the services you may provide, nor the amount of work you put into your cases in order to get your clients out of the court room, but let's say you bought a passport or valentine and sped all the time... and let's assume you were careless (or POP radar was used) and you got two tickets (speeding)... if you were to retained the folk at http://www.theticketclinic.com/aboutus.cfm you would still be saving more than 50% of your fee schedule, get no points on your license, you won't have to attend traffic school and you won't even have to appear in court.

Oh, by the way... this is just an opinion

lawman

I never handle a speeding ticket unless it is part of a more serious case. I was just using fees to make a point about how expensive it would be to engage in a gosh awful for real evidentary hearing. I wasn't talking about schmoozing your way out of it, which is perfectly acceptable and is something I try in almost every case.

My specialty is DUI defense, which is the most complicated area of criminal law in my state. In a DUI case, a speeding charge is something we would gladly plead to if I get the DUI charge dropped. If a trial is necessary, I can assure you we will fight the speeding charge the same as the DUI charge.

Also, I'm sure that the lawyers at the ticket clinic are capable attorneys. However, for DUI defense, three of the top DUI lawyers in the nation are in your state and one of them is Miami (Richard Essen). I can assure you these are the guys you want in your corner if you can't get the prosecutor to deal and a trial is required. Oh, and I can guarantee you that their fees are significantly higher than eighty nine bucks. However, if, God forbid, you were ever erroneously charged with DUI, considering your superior trial advocacy skills, I'm sure you'd skip even the $89 and handle the case yourself.

lawman

snapple

FUC$ lawyers

lawman

There are many great things about our country. One is that no matter if you are involved in a lawsuit or a ciminal action, you don't even have to hire a lawyer. You have the right to represent yourself.

BTW Snapple, I did a quick check of your posts. I had a difficult time finding one that involved any careful thought or intellectual integrity. I'm sure I must have overlooked them. :p

lawman