What are the 10 best sleeper cars you can buy today?

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Old 10-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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very poorly written list.
i thought the list would be more like 300zxs and stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by tegkid
very poorly written list.
i thought the list would be more like 300zxs and stuff like that.


I also dont understand how any new car can be considered a sleeper

maybe if Kia made an AWD twin-turbo Rio, or Chevy made a RWD V8 Aveo
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
*cough*13.9*cough*
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That's IS a good sleeper. The new 6 speed TL will be too
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People plunk down huge amount of cash to get the bigger and powerful motors for their taste (and for some bragging rights) so it is hard to define a top of the line Audi or any luxury model as a sleeper !!! People should expect it to be fast....

Anyhow I think a supercharged CTS-V should have been on the list ....

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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
5.9 is very believable for the 6MT Accord coupe. That engine is very underrated.
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Originally Posted by tegkid
very poorly written list.
i thought the list would be more like 300zxs and stuff like that.
dude the 300zx hasn't been offered(new) for like over 10 years. this is new cars. where if you got the cash or credit, go to the dealer find one of these cars you like they can hook you up with one of these rides.
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Originally Posted by HockeyMan0920
woot for the cobalt making the list!
That ain't no sleeper either HockyMan0920!
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
That ain't no sleeper either HockyMan0920!
I'd consider a Cobalt a sleeper...the first thing anyone thinks when they see one is POS, SS trim included. The fact that it's not makes it a sleeper...like a Volvo with an LS1 swap.
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
I'd consider a Cobalt a sleeper...the first thing anyone thinks when they see one is POS, SS trim included. The fact that it's not makes it a sleeper...like a Volvo with an LS1 swap.
all i got to say to that is Volvo S60R. that car the ultimate sleeper. everyone thinks Volvo=safe, soccer mom kind of car. the S60R will scoot stock.
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
c'mon. an audi S as a sleeper?
I'd say the B6 S4 was a sleeper.

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^ I would actually play devil's advocate and say most of the S models are sleepers. To the casual observer, they couldn't tell the difference between an A8 and an S8 9 times out of 10. We can, but most of the public could not...
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I would also say the 335i.
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CTS-V...? Or does it stand out too much?
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Based on those numbers the Camry would also be considered a sleeper.
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both the 335 and CTS-V are give a ways as fast cars.
the CTS-V is a dead give away when it's faster than a C63 and M3.
the 335 i no surprise it's fast when it's (in my opinion) a good competitor with the TL type S.
a sleeper is looking at it you wouldn't know the the thing hauls ass. but when you drive it or run against it at a track you're shocked.

the ultimate sleeper i saw is this early early 90s Chevy Caprice Classic Wagon looking at it look like all it had was custom wheels and a small drop ncie black paint job some light chrome.
i thought thoght this car is "grandma's wagon" be lucky to turn a 15
The dude pulled a stock 350 v-8 and dropped in a previous generation Vette Z06 (405 crank hp) but he had a couple bolt ons with it so he said he was probably at 450 hp.
that FUCKER WAS DOING HIGH 13s on street tires.
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Has anyone actually read the article? Motortrend says these cars get the least attention from police. They fit in with the rest of the crowd and don't seem like cars a person would speed in.

The Chevy HHR SS and Buick Lacrosse Super are really good sleepers. Same with the Volvo V-8.
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If they count buying used cars today? then the GTO should be on the list. its the best hp per dollar you can buy and most casual persons think its a big grand prix. just my two cents

and saab/volvos should not be forgotton
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
Has anyone actually read the article? Motortrend says these cars get the least attention from police. They fit in with the rest of the crowd and don't seem like cars a person would speed in.

The Chevy HHR SS and Buick Lacrosse Super are really good sleepers. Same with the Volvo V-8.


if that was the articles intent they are right. however my mom's odyssey should be on the list then!
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Originally Posted by swift22
If they count buying used cars today? then the GTO should be on the list. its the best hp per dollar you can buy and most casual persons think its a big grand prix. just my two cents

and saab/volvos should not be forgotton
The GTO and Grand Prix are dead. GTO been dead for a few years. and for 09 the Grand Prix is dead.
Saab brand next to go.
probably the best bang for your buck as far as HP for sedan is G8 GT.
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Personally I think the Forrester is a great sleeper.
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^ I would actually play devil's advocate and say most of the S models are sleepers. To the casual observer, they couldn't tell the difference between an A8 and an S8 9 times out of 10. We can, but most of the public could not...
that is very true, but in this context don't you think it's more about a run-of-the mill car that people don't expect to be fast. Audi S cards aren't run-of-the mill regardless if people recognize them or not.

This is why I think the Forrester is a great sleeper car because it's got a strong motor, and most don't expect it to be fast. At least the last gen, don't know much about the new one.
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^Last gen - yes. The new one? I can't imagine it being fast at all. They made it so much bigger
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
that is very true, but in this context don't you think it's more about a run-of-the mill car that people don't expect to be fast. Audi S cards aren't run-of-the mill regardless if people recognize them or not.

This is why I think the Forrester is a great sleeper car because it's got a strong motor, and most don't expect it to be fast. At least the last gen, don't know much about the new one.
Right... Audi S cars are NOT run-of-the-mill... but the fact that most people can't tell them apart from the regular model makes them a sleeper.

Case in point... Audi A4's are everywhere. Audi S4, completely different car... and most people couldn't tell the difference, therefore, the S4 would qualify as a sleeper b/c the majority would just think it was another A4.

Now, going as far as calling the S8 a sleeper may be a stretch b/c the A8 itself is no slouch, but for the A4/A6 - S4/S6... I'd say yes.

And yes, last gen Forrester was a good one as well.
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I dont see any Audi as a sleeper. I think the 6mt accord is a sleeper as well as the cobalt, but mostly because like said, I preconceive them(cobalt) to be a pos, that basically is a cavalier with round tail lights. What about a bone stock SRT4? for the longest time I didnt think there was such a thing as a fast neon.

As someone else said, new cars shouldnt even get to be sleepers, especially like the ones on that list. To me a sleeper is a car that looks normal, boring even but has been modified mechanically but not aesthetically, which then kicks the shit out you and leaves you embarrassed.
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^ thats one of the most flashiest cars i've seen, especially with those hood scoops

when someone says sleeper, I immediately think RS4. at a casual glance, looks exactly like a normal A4.

What about AMGs? I'd love an E63 wagon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM

Now THAT is a sleeper.
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With a couple grand I can turn my car into a sleeper.
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Originally Posted by invisiblewar
the only real sleeper on there is the legacy, most people only know of the impreza to be a racer boy car


Exactly. The term "sleeper" really does mean a car that does not look like it has much, but can go like stink. Now, an Audi S/RS or BMW does not count in this, as they are made for performance. Basically people expect performance.

Now, a Subary Legacy? Absolutely a sleeper. My 3.0R is pretty quick, with a better torque curve than the turbo. And over here, the B4 (Legacy) GT has the 2.0L STI motor, and is 280 HP with a 6 speed. Very quick for a 4 door sedan.

Also, anything from Volvo that has the R designation could be called a sleeper. And I say that because nobody expects any performance out of a Volvo (except those in the know, hence sleeper).

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how about the mid 90s Volvo turbos. wagons, esp!

i tip my hat to the forester as the number one sleeper.
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
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lol i dont think a pontiac G8 GT is considered a sleeper with a 6.2 liter V8 at 361 hp and 0 to 60 in 5.7 secs for a heavy 4 door she holds her own now lets talk about the pontiac G8 GT GXP Edition coming out in 09 with 402 HP and 0 to 60 in 4.7..haha ttyl be safe...


i consider my 2007 honda accord EX-L V6 sedan to be a sleeper alot of ppl think its not quick but its got balls and hauls ass and for an automatic transmission to do 0 to 60 in 6.6 aint half bad.. and the six speed accord sedan that they made in 06 and 07 does 0 to 60 in 5.9 dont sleep on the HONDA ACCORDS..lol bye
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Originally Posted by RyanCHICL
I would also say the 335i.
are you kidding? no way... that thing is quick as shit.... a chipped 335 will take the e46 m3 period.... with 15k dinan mods it'll take its own e92 m3 stock
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Originally Posted by mrmako


Exactly. The term "sleeper" really does mean a car that does not look like it has much, but can go like stink. Now, an Audi S/RS or BMW does not count in this, as they are made for performance. Basically people expect performance.

Now, a Subary Legacy? Absolutely a sleeper. My 3.0R is pretty quick, with a better torque curve than the turbo. And over here, the B4 (Legacy) GT has the 2.0L STI motor, and is 280 HP with a 6 speed. Very quick for a 4 door sedan.

Also, anything from Volvo that has the R designation could be called a sleeper. And I say that because nobody expects any performance out of a Volvo (except those in the know, hence sleeper).

contradicting, subaru is known for off-road 4wd performance just as german cars like audi and bmw are known for performance cars as well. audi is one of the worst recognized car brand along with acura

i agree the legacy is a very nice sleeper, 4wd, sport modes, mods galore, SEDAN, simple and mature looking car. i really like it....
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
are you kidding? no way... that thing is quick as shit.... a chipped 335 will take the e46 m3 period.... with 15k dinan mods it'll take its own e92 m3 stock
Yes, but will a stock-looking 335i sedan (stock height, no 20's, no 5% tint, no fender/wheel well extensions, no hood or fender vents, no wings, no decals...) look that fast?? If not, then it's a sleeper!
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What about a reverse sleeper - the BMW 528 (also 325, 328) comes to mind - looks fast - but it is slow as ever. :-D Come to think of it..there are lots of those...all show no go.
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
Yes, but will a stock-looking 335i sedan (stock height, no 20's, no 5% tint, no fender/wheel well extensions, no hood or fender vents, no wings, no decals...) look that fast?? If not, then it's a sleeper!
Exactly The more I read the replies in this topic, the more I think people don't realize what a sleeper is. 95% of the general public just look at it as another 3-series not realizing what the 335i is all about. They'll just relate it back to the days of the slower 325 and 328's. So to me a 335i is a great example of a modern day sleeper....
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Originally Posted by nyclio
What about a reverse sleeper - the BMW 528 (also 325, 328) comes to mind - looks fast - but it is slow as ever. :-D Come to think of it..there are lots of those...all show no go.
So, how about a 318i that has an M badge instead of the real designation? ...Ha, reverse sleeper. You should start a new thread called that.
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well my list of recent sleeper cars:
CL (haha.. no one knows what it is)
mazdaspeed6
legacy spec.B
335i sedan
altima 3.5 sedan
S60R

i don't think the new accord coupe is a sleeper as such.. as it looks very aggressive
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^ How can you put the CL on this list? It hasn't been made since 2003 so that's clearly not a new car you can buy today.

Neither is the S60R as that was discontinued in 2006.

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Originally Posted by rp_guy
well my list of recent sleeper cars:
CL (haha.. no one knows what it is)
mazdaspeed6
legacy spec.B
335i sedan
altima 3.5 sedan
S60R

i don't think the new accord coupe is a sleeper as such.. as it looks very aggressive
how can a 3.5 altima make your list and not the Accord V-6 6 speed. they are almost same 1/4 mile times. it just comes down to style taste, who will deal more, and who's pissed off at what dealer.
the new Accord v-6 6 speed is no joke dude.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
^ How can you put the CL on this list? It hasn't been made since 2003 so that's clearly not a new car you can buy today.

Neither is the S60R as that was discontinued in 2006.

i didn't mean brand new cars. mazdaspeed6 was also discontinued in 2007 (though the 09 model has just as much power). i just made a list of some fairly recent vehicles that i believe are sleepers

Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
how can a 3.5 altima make your list and not the Accord V-6 6 speed. they are almost same 1/4 mile times. it just comes down to style taste, who will deal more, and who's pissed off at what dealer.
the new Accord v-6 6 speed is no joke dude.
because coupes and sedans are 2 different things. it's almost expected that coupes are fast (and everyone knows that the J35 in the sedan w/ VCM is not even comparable to the J35 6speed in the coupe).


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