Well...the S2000 needed more doors, more driven wheels, and a lot more torque...

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Old 05-04-2018, 05:24 PM
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Cool story bro. Did you give up on that dream car and end up in another POS? It was a scirocco, wasn't it?
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Showed my wife the GTI (google photo) & got a real quick from her.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Showed my wife the GTI (google photo) & got a real quick from her.
Take her to go see/drive it and then get her opinion. My wife wasn't about the Golf either, then she sat in one and said this is it.
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Damn you, Sam.
Just went to took a GTI SE for a spin, with both kids in tow. Impressive performance, I went in with low expectations & was quite impressed. I wanted to not like it, but it may just edge out the 6.
They only had 1 Autobahn & their R was in the showroom. Was surprised the R didn't have a sunroof.

Will definitely have to go back for a longer, less trafficky, kidless test drive. Though, I will say that the 6AT wasn't super responsive in manual mode at higher RPMs, was expecting quicker shifts. It did shift quite quickly at lower normal RPMs.
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I would definitely love one but for some reason I find the Mark 6 to be a bit more aggressive looking.
There's no doubt the DSG is fast and fun...the Caddy has a pretty slow shifter for an auto but...
I still think a manual is the answer for the entire visceral driving experience.

Luckily, you still have the S2000 to feel that in...if you didn't, in a few months you'd agree that you missed having the manual experience. I can almost guarantee it.
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Congrats on the awesome new ride! Glad to read to the end and see the s2k isn't going anywhere. You had me worried for a bit.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Damn you, Sam.
Just went to took a GTI SE for a spin, with both kids in tow. Impressive performance, I went in with low expectations & was quite impressed. I wanted to not like it, but it may just edge out the 6.
They only had 1 Autobahn & their R was in the showroom. Was surprised the R didn't have a sunroof.

Will definitely have to go back for a longer, less trafficky, kidless test drive. Though, I will say that the 6AT wasn't super responsive in manual mode at higher RPMs, was expecting quicker shifts. It did shift quite quickly at lower normal RPMs.
None of the R's come with a sunroof, it's some weird DOT regulation thing. Up until the very latest builds, the center console didn't even open because some DOT law says that if there's a drive shaft going to the rear, the center console must have a latch. Well...none of the other Golf models have a latch because FWD so instead of designing a new lid for one tiny sliver of overall sales VW just bolted it shut on the R and called it good. Guess they figured a way around now since they are coming with opening lids and still no latch.

It's a fun little car that's got nothing to prove to anyone and is shockingly spacious on the inside. No regrets at this point.

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I would definitely love one but for some reason I find the Mark 6 to be a bit more aggressive looking.
There's no doubt the DSG is fast and fun...the Caddy has a pretty slow shifter for an auto but...
I still think a manual is the answer for the entire visceral driving experience.

Luckily, you still have the S2000 to feel that in...if you didn't, in a few months you'd agree that you missed having the manual experience. I can almost guarantee it.
I dunno man, the DSG is a lot of fun for the driving experience. I may be a convert at this point. I love me a manual but damn if this thing doesn't just work all the time. The gear shift in auto is telepathic and instantaneous in manual.

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Congrats on the awesome new ride! Glad to read to the end and see the s2k isn't going anywhere. You had me worried for a bit.
Thanks!

To be honest, it's looking more and more like the S2000 will be put up for sale later this summer or early next. We just don't use it together anymore and it sucks to feel guilty that we can't bring the pup (and if we ever have a kid) along with us for cruises. Now that I have a fast and fun daily, the S will probably sit around gathering dust even more. I know I said I'd keep it but I'm not sure anymore.

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and this entire time I had you pegged as a purist
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
and this entire time I had you pegged as a purist
I'm a logical purist.

The departure of the S2000 will likely lead to a Wrangler Unlimited that will provide endless top down (and door off) fun for a family of 3-4 and many many adventures and trips to see different off road trails all over the country.
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let me guess...
it'll be automatic?

I agree with making sure the family can share in the fun, man. I do.
but the key is just getting more cars.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
let me guess...
it'll be automatic?

I agree with making sure the family can share in the fun, man. I do.
but the key is just getting more cars.
Yes, automatic but for a reason! Auto is just a LOT better when dealing with off road situations. Can you imagine working a clutch starting from a stop in the middle of climbing a 35 degree incline? F that noise. Also, auto allows for gear changes while submerged.

I wish I could get more cars...I have no more space to store them though otherwise I'd definitely keep the S2000.
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Okay.
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Sounds like adulting 110%. Nothing to see here.
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I like the s2000, but I see where Sam is coming from. It isn't very practical, small as fuck, and has very limited applications. Jeeps can be a ton of fun and are a blast riding around in when completely stripped of body panels. Plus... what can't you do in a jeep??

I myself considered a 6MT jeep at one point, but I've heard many times that the wrangler style jeeps are actually terrible for driving in... shit down the highway, noisy as fuck, always correcting the steering, etc... not sure if true... I've only had limited city exprience. I heard the shifting is abysmal also, more like a big rig truck than anything slick and smooth shifting these days, at least as far as the manual is concerned. It was enough to scare me off, but, there is a jeep club here in town, and there seems to be a shit ton of members in it. I've seen them do a Christmas drive where they stripped all the panels off their jeeps in the winter and covered them in Christmas lights, with some having a tree poking out the back must've been a good 60 jeeps participating
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for where y'all live, sound logic. for where I live...I'll stick with the S2000.
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Quick update. The set of OE VW wheels I got fit just fine over the brakes so it's time to get the winter tires swapped from the wife's car to these wheels and prep the Accord for sale. I was nervous about them fitting over the brakes, factory wheels are 19" and the winter ones are 17", but everything seems to be fine. It'll definitely have a different look in the winter lol. Also, I found out that EVERY SINGLE BULB on the car is LED...except for the one single one in the hatch area. WTF? This will have to get swapped ASAP. Other than that, I'm planning on enjoying as is to keep the warranty intact. Might grab some Pretoria wheels in the future if I can find a good deal on a set.
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The Pretorias look good, but poking around, I like the Rotary wheels a lot.

Edit: Been looking at GTIs so much. Rotary are 18" & a GTI option.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
The Pretorias look good, but poking around, I like the Rotary wheels a lot.

Edit: Been looking at GTIs so much. Rotary are 18" & a GTI option.
Those look good but alas the Golf R doesn't have any options...

You can get so many more options in Canada, it's nuts we don't get the same here.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
for where y'all live, sound logic. for where I live...I'll stick with the S2000.
Oh don't get me wrong- it's a great car- one that is highly desirable these days- but really a one trick pony. Sam seems like the kind who wants his cars to be able to handle a number of scenarios... moving people, hauling room, offroading, just cruising, whatever. Though I wonder if he would be more inclined to keep it if he could use it every day of the year, in a nicer climate. But since he ain't leaving minnesnowta any time soon...
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Those look good but alas the Golf R doesn't have any options...

You can get so many more options in Canada, it's nuts we don't get the same here.
I'm imagine, that since the GTI & R are mighty similar, the Rotary would fit fine, but you'd be going to an 18"
They'd make a nice winter option too, but you've already got that covered.
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LOL...true that...
if it were my only car. Well...
yeah, it wouldn't be my only car.
That's why it's such a great one trick pony.

Anyway, I look forward to whatever you end up doing with the car, Sam. You always seem to keep it classy.
Is hatch area bulb a strange one? It's a weird hook and loop tube on the V Wagon.
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so is the S for sale now??? i'm confused...
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it is not for sale yet...it is going to be summer time and he'll be able to enjoy it.
i would not be surprised one bit to find it in the black market at the end of fall though, when he's getting ready to put it away again for another 6 months.
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Sam, I hear one of our members has a poop brown cuck mobile for sale (Audi). You can still return the GTI
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
it is not for sale yet...it is going to be summer time and he'll be able to enjoy it.
i would not be surprised one bit to find it in the black market at the end of fall though, when he's getting ready to put it away again for another 6 months.
Vultures unite!!!
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LOL...my shit ain't for sale!
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Oh don't get me wrong- it's a great car- one that is highly desirable these days- but really a one trick pony. Sam seems like the kind who wants his cars to be able to handle a number of scenarios... moving people, hauling room, offroading, just cruising, whatever. Though I wonder if he would be more inclined to keep it if he could use it every day of the year, in a nicer climate. But since he ain't leaving minnesnowta any time soon...
This. The S2000 is an excellent car but it really is a one trick pony. An awesome one trick pony, but it is one nonetheless. I love the thing but life and priorities change over time which is why the contemplation in selling. It's not an easy decision for me...

If it were nice out all year, I'd keep it. If I had room to store it and get a Wrangler, I'd keep it. It was bought in cash so the only cost is the incredibly basic maintenance, gas (low because don't drive much), and insurance (which is $30 for 6 months of the year) so the cost in keeping it is incredibly low. The biggest problem is that it just doesn't get driven anymore.

And no, I'm not leaving MN anytime soon.

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I'm imagine, that since the GTI & R are mighty similar, the Rotary would fit fine, but you'd be going to an 18"
They'd make a nice winter option too, but you've already got that covered.
Oh I'm sure they'd fit, I'd just want to continue to use the perfectly good tires on the new wheels. The biggest reason I bought 17" wheels was because the snow tires from the wife's Accord will mount and be the right-ish size for the VW. Also because I got the entire nearly mint set of OE VW wheels with half worn Conti DW summer tires for $175.

Will be selling the wheels from the Accord and the half used tires, will more than likely recoup all of my money lol.

Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
so is the S for sale now??? i'm confused...
Not yet! My biggest problem with selling it is that I'll probably never be able to get another like (low mile, bone stock) it in the future. Once it's gone, it's gone and that's a pretty heavy thought.

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Sam, I hear one of our members has a poop brown cuck mobile for sale (Audi). You can still return the GTI
What GTI?

I don't want a shit brown slow AF Audi.

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Vultures unite!!!
Haha, you guys will be the first to know!

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I myself considered a 6MT jeep at one point, but I've heard many times that the wrangler style jeeps are actually terrible for driving in... shit down the highway, noisy as fuck, always correcting the steering, etc... not sure if true... I've only had limited city experience.
100% true. Pretty much the reason why we do not take the Jeep on long trips. That said, it's a blast to drive locally, even on the highway for short distances. Yes, the ride sucks, especially when lifted with larger wheels/tires, but it's a Jeep. Throwing the top back or taking it off is just so much fun. Definitely an enjoyable vehicle, but I wouldn't use it for road trips. Some people do, but as a weekend vehicle, it's perfect.
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Congratulations Sam! You will adore the Golf R in Lapiz Blue. For $45k, I truly believe it is the best buy for the $. A few of us at the local PCNA club (copycats) daily them and it's a great blend of practicality, comfort and performance. I just installed Uni's strage 2 tune with an Akrapovic systems and it's downright evil. I have to add that after owning the 6MT, I prefer the DSG. I do wish they'd have given us the roof that EU cars get but certainly not a deal breaker.

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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Congratulations Sam! You will adore the Golf R in Lapiz Blue. For $45k, I truly believe it is the best buy for the $. A few of us at the local PCNA club (copycats) daily them and it's a great blend of practicality, comfort and performance. I just installed Uni's strage 2 tune with an Akrapovic systems and it's downright evil. I have to add that after owning the 6MT, I prefer the DSG. I do wish they'd have given us the roof that EU cars get but certainly not a deal breaker.
Thanks man! The exhaust and tune sound awesome but I'm for sure not going to tune until the warranty is up. I'll likely do the exhaust thing eventually but for now I'm just going to keep it stock. I absolutely bought it to be the great all around daily driver and so far it doesn't disappoint. Excited for more miles over the years!
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After riding in my first big turbo E85 Golf R a month back ... it made me partially regret going off the deep end with the Audi.

Traction is literally not an issue and it hooks, hard. Couldn't imagine launch control with DSG.
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Be happy with what you have... otherwise you'll always be looking over the fence, thinking the grass is greener. And truth be told, you're probably at less than half the cost of a new R, right now anyway. Don't be coveting another man's car!!
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OK holy fuck that’s hot!! Yes in love with that color!! Just wow!!! Haven’t read the thread yet but I’m sure you're aware that a fuck ton more power is only a few hundred dollars away :wink:

There was a moment were VAG was losing me but I can’t seem to get over them. Always have been and always will be a VW fan boy....no apologies.

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Congrats on the purchase! I would love to own another R, but the new ones are out of my budget. The new extended warranty sucks IMO. You don't want to wait that long to mod it. ECU/TCU tunes will totally change the car and make you wish you did it sooner. A local guy (15 R) ran 11.9 with APR stage 1 tunes and intercooler. He's running 11.7 with DP and stage 2 tunes. These cars are heartbreakers. I'm looking forward to your build.
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Congrats on the purchase! I would love to own another R, but the new ones are out of my budget. The new extended warranty sucks IMO. You don't want to wait that long to mod it. ECU/TCU tunes will totally change the car and make you wish you did it sooner. A local guy (15 R) ran 11.9 with APR stage 1 tunes and intercooler. He's running 11.7 with DP and stage 2 tunes. These cars are heartbreakers. I'm looking forward to your build.
Yeah, no tune for me. The car is plenty fast as is and I really want to keep the warranty intact for as long as I can. The new warranty will definitely not suck when the electrical gremlins start to present themselves and if the turbo takes a dump. We'll see though. Once the warranty is out, I'll definitely tune it though.
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I can't picture you tuning...you're too oem and calculated wear and tear guy...
and who can blame you.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I can't picture you tuning...you're too oem and calculated wear and tear guy...
and who can blame you.
Apparently this entire forum.

It's the engineer in me though, there were thousands upon thousands of engineering hours that went into the tune of this car from the factory in order to get the best result. If VW could reliably get another 50hp with just a tune and nothing else without any issues, I'm sure they would have. There's a good reason for why not.


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