Ticket question
02-17-2011, 03:07 PM
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Ticket question
So this morning I was pulled over for not having my headlight/fog lights turn on in foggy weather. Is this an actual violation? I just never heard of it.
Officer gave me a warning for it but then noticed my window tint. Measured it at 13% so sure enough received a citation for it. Calling the county office, it would be $120 ticket. So I called around and to get it 35% (state law is 32%) it would be $180 to do just four doors. (I have Acura RL) Tint guy said I could leave the back as is but it wouldn't look obvious having two different shades. What are your thoughts? I'm told, if I get it replaced, judge MAY either reduce the fine or remove entirely. What are your experiences on something like this?
Officer gave me a warning for it but then noticed my window tint. Measured it at 13% so sure enough received a citation for it. Calling the county office, it would be $120 ticket. So I called around and to get it 35% (state law is 32%) it would be $180 to do just four doors. (I have Acura RL) Tint guy said I could leave the back as is but it wouldn't look obvious having two different shades. What are your thoughts? I'm told, if I get it replaced, judge MAY either reduce the fine or remove entirely. What are your experiences on something like this?
02-17-2011, 03:22 PM
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Speak to the court/police and get something in writing.
What we say will probably not hold up in court
"But your honor, the guys on Acurazine said it would be fine"
What we say will probably not hold up in court
"But your honor, the guys on Acurazine said it would be fine"
02-17-2011, 04:38 PM
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02-17-2011, 05:32 PM
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Emphasis added
GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2011 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current Through the 2010 Regular Session ***
*** Annotations Current Through October 29, 2010 ***
TITLE 40. MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 8. EQUIPMENT AND INSPECTION OF MOTOR VEHICLES
ARTICLE 1. EQUIPMENT GENERALLY
PART 2. LIGHTING EQUIPMENT
O.C.G.A. § 40-8-20 (2011)
§ 40-8-20. When lighted headlights and other lights required
Every vehicle upon a highway within this state at any time from a half-hour after sunset to a half-hour before sunrise and at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights, and illuminating devices as required in this part for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions with respect to parked vehicles as stated in this part.
Copyright 2011 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current Through the 2010 Regular Session ***
*** Annotations Current Through October 29, 2010 ***
TITLE 40. MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 8. EQUIPMENT AND INSPECTION OF MOTOR VEHICLES
ARTICLE 1. EQUIPMENT GENERALLY
PART 2. LIGHTING EQUIPMENT
O.C.G.A. § 40-8-20 (2011)
§ 40-8-20. When lighted headlights and other lights required
Every vehicle upon a highway within this state at any time from a half-hour after sunset to a half-hour before sunrise and at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights, and illuminating devices as required in this part for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions with respect to parked vehicles as stated in this part.
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02-17-2011, 07:02 PM
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It's pretty much common sense ... If it's raining or foggy turn your lights on so when you try to cut me off, I can brace for the damage you're going to do to my car 
02-17-2011, 07:28 PM
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Still haven't found that Integra.
Much easier to make money doing nothing important than protecting/recovering peoples losses.
02-17-2011, 07:53 PM
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Would you like them to assign an officer to each car in the town, just to watch it and make sure it doesn't get stolen?
Or perhaps, assign an investigator to spend 20-30 hours investigating EVERY stolen car in the jurisdiction, which I am sure is only one or two. No need for that officer to respond to rape, home invasion, child abuse or armed robbery 9-1-1 calls...
So, what EXACTLY do you propose the police do?
02-17-2011, 07:59 PM
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however i am still bumped out about the tint situation. Trying to decide whether to change out four doors only with 35% and leave the back at current setting. i'm told this wouldn't look any.
02-17-2011, 08:04 PM
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Had I gotten a ticket for this violation, i would have told him that my headlights are set on 'auto' and due to sensitivity of my current setting, headlights didn't come on despite the foggy situation. I'm glad he didn't issue me a citation now that I know there is a law out there for it.
however i am still bumped out about the tint situation. Trying to decide whether to change out four doors only with 35% and leave the back at current setting. i'm told this wouldn't look any.
however i am still bumped out about the tint situation. Trying to decide whether to change out four doors only with 35% and leave the back at current setting. i'm told this wouldn't look any.
02-17-2011, 08:07 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how EXACTLY do you propose they do that? Not what didn't they do for you, but what do YOU propose they do?
Would you like them to assign an officer to each car in the town, just to watch it and make sure it doesn't get stolen?
Or perhaps, assign an investigator to spend 20-30 hours investigating EVERY stolen car in the jurisdiction, which I am sure is only one or two. No need for that officer to respond to rape, home invasion, child abuse or armed robbery 9-1-1 calls...
So, what EXACTLY do you propose the police do?
Would you like them to assign an officer to each car in the town, just to watch it and make sure it doesn't get stolen?
Or perhaps, assign an investigator to spend 20-30 hours investigating EVERY stolen car in the jurisdiction, which I am sure is only one or two. No need for that officer to respond to rape, home invasion, child abuse or armed robbery 9-1-1 calls...
So, what EXACTLY do you propose the police do?
02-17-2011, 08:13 PM
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Here in Oregon, the cops seem to spend a lot of time on the freeway shooting radar at cars. Not to many houses getting burglarized on the freeway.
There is a lot of revenue generation happening out there. Funny how you can drive at night wearing sunglasses, but the windows in your car must allow more than 32% of light in.
There is a lot of revenue generation happening out there. Funny how you can drive at night wearing sunglasses, but the windows in your car must allow more than 32% of light in.
Also, freeway police are generally highway patrol or state police not your local jurisdiction. Different mandates, different missions, different responsibilities.
02-17-2011, 08:35 PM
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Police don't need to worry about your eyeballs shooting them with guns hidden behind your sunglasses. Heavily tinted windows makes it impossible to see inside a car on a traffic stop. It has nothing to do with you being able to see out. There is no law specifically against driving with your eyes closed either...
Also, freeway police are generally highway patrol or state police not your local jurisdiction. Different mandates, different missions, different responsibilities.
Also, freeway police are generally highway patrol or state police not your local jurisdiction. Different mandates, different missions, different responsibilities.
02-17-2011, 08:59 PM
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maybe I should have said "Highway" In my case it is 4 different jurisdictions! So don't tell me it is their job to pull over drivers with too much tint on the windows. It's a bullshit ticket that could be solved with a warning. It is not just here in Oregon either, many states are facing bankruptcy from lost tax revenue and law inforcement is ramping up these kind of petty tickets to make up for it.
02-18-2011, 12:40 AM
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So this morning I was pulled over for not having my headlight/fog lights turn on in foggy weather. Is this an actual violation? I just never heard of it.
Officer gave me a warning for it but then noticed my window tint. Measured it at 13% so sure enough received a citation for it. Calling the county office, it would be $120 ticket. So I called around and to get it 35% (state law is 32%) it would be $180 to do just four doors. (I have Acura RL) Tint guy said I could leave the back as is but it wouldn't look obvious having two different shades. What are your thoughts? I'm told, if I get it replaced, judge MAY either reduce the fine or remove entirely. What are your experiences on something like this?
Officer gave me a warning for it but then noticed my window tint. Measured it at 13% so sure enough received a citation for it. Calling the county office, it would be $120 ticket. So I called around and to get it 35% (state law is 32%) it would be $180 to do just four doors. (I have Acura RL) Tint guy said I could leave the back as is but it wouldn't look obvious having two different shades. What are your thoughts? I'm told, if I get it replaced, judge MAY either reduce the fine or remove entirely. What are your experiences on something like this?
02-18-2011, 07:36 PM
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Would you like them to assign an officer to each car in the town, just to watch it and make sure it doesn't get stolen?
Or perhaps, assign an investigator to spend 20-30 hours investigating EVERY stolen car in the jurisdiction, which I am sure is only one or two. No need for that officer to respond to rape, home invasion, child abuse or armed robbery 9-1-1 calls...
So, what EXACTLY do you propose the police do?
But I do propose that more patrols taking place in high risk areas would in fact cut down on some crime, but seemingly more money is to be made ticketing people for small infractions.
02-18-2011, 08:09 PM
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Well I don't actually expect them to be able to protect all vehicles nor did I expect them to actually find my car once it was stolen.
But I do propose that more patrols taking place in high risk areas would in fact cut down on some crime, but seemingly more money is to be made ticketing people for small infractions.
But I do propose that more patrols taking place in high risk areas would in fact cut down on some crime, but seemingly more money is to be made ticketing people for small infractions.
02-20-2011, 04:32 PM
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The study showed that speeding tickets and traffic fines increased the year after a decline in revenue. Local governments love traffic tickets because there is no limit on how many can be issued. The next time you are going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone, consider that you could be traveling through a town in search of much needed tax revenue."
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/13/sec...nce-irs_2.html
02-20-2011, 05:14 PM
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Had I gotten a ticket for this violation, i would have told him that my headlights are set on 'auto' and due to sensitivity of my current setting, headlights didn't come on despite the foggy situation. I'm glad he didn't issue me a citation now that I know there is a law out there for it.
however i am still bumped out about the tint situation. Trying to decide whether to change out four doors only with 35% and leave the back at current setting. i'm told this wouldn't look any.
however i am still bumped out about the tint situation. Trying to decide whether to change out four doors only with 35% and leave the back at current setting. i'm told this wouldn't look any.
(since i think in alot of states, illegal tint is not a primary offense, but a secondary one, which they cannot pull you over just for (but the headlight warning just allowed him to though)Police don't need to worry about your eyeballs shooting them with guns hidden behind your sunglasses. Heavily tinted windows makes it impossible to see inside a car on a traffic stop. It has nothing to do with you being able to see out. There is no law specifically against driving with your eyes closed either...
Also, freeway police are generally highway patrol or state police not your local jurisdiction. Different mandates, different missions, different responsibilities.
Also, freeway police are generally highway patrol or state police not your local jurisdiction. Different mandates, different missions, different responsibilities.
02-20-2011, 05:27 PM
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I absolutely hate it when people don't turn on their lights in the fog and am glad cops pull you over for this. Just because you can see outside doesn't mean others can see you. You can easily rear end someone in heavy fog. I've had to stomp on my breaks so many times because of this. Visibility here can get down to 15-20 ft.
02-20-2011, 08:35 PM
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I absolutely hate it when people don't turn on their lights in the fog and am glad cops pull you over for this. Just because you can see outside doesn't mean others can see you. You can easily rear end someone in heavy fog. I've had to stomp on my breaks so many times because of this. Visibility here can get down to 15-20 ft.
it was bumper to bumper traffic. No way I would have hit the car in front of me b/c of foggy situation.
02-20-2011, 08:56 PM
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"Where do cities and towns find extra revenue during tough economic times? The answer is from traffic citations and speeding tickets. Speeding tickets are often referred to as "hidden taxes," because they allow governments to collect revenue from residents and non-residents alike. A study by the Journal of Law and Economics found "statistical evidence that local governments use traffic citation to make up for revenue shortfalls."
The study showed that speeding tickets and traffic fines increased the year after a decline in revenue. Local governments love traffic tickets because there is no limit on how many can be issued. The next time you are going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone, consider that you could be traveling through a town in search of much needed tax revenue."
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/13/sec...nce-irs_2.html
The study showed that speeding tickets and traffic fines increased the year after a decline in revenue. Local governments love traffic tickets because there is no limit on how many can be issued. The next time you are going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone, consider that you could be traveling through a town in search of much needed tax revenue."
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/13/sec...nce-irs_2.html
Hmmm... Maybe things have changed.
02-20-2011, 09:08 PM
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DRLs are great, but there's nothing to illuminate the rear of the car, and many people aren't encouraged to turn on their low-beams when "the lights are on anyways".
At this point, you may as well just mandate low-beam lights at all times, Volvo style.
At this point, you may as well just mandate low-beam lights at all times, Volvo style.
02-20-2011, 09:27 PM
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"Where do cities and towns find extra revenue during tough economic times? The answer is from traffic citations and speeding tickets. Speeding tickets are often referred to as "hidden taxes," because they allow governments to collect revenue from residents and non-residents alike. A study by the Journal of Law and Economics found "statistical evidence that local governments use traffic citation to make up for revenue shortfalls."
The study showed that speeding tickets and traffic fines increased the year after a decline in revenue. Local governments love traffic tickets because there is no limit on how many can be issued. The next time you are going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone, consider that you could be traveling through a town in search of much needed tax revenue."
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/13/sec...nce-irs_2.html
The study showed that speeding tickets and traffic fines increased the year after a decline in revenue. Local governments love traffic tickets because there is no limit on how many can be issued. The next time you are going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone, consider that you could be traveling through a town in search of much needed tax revenue."
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/13/sec...nce-irs_2.html
As examples, I dug these up:
Texas:
Sec. 720.002. PROHIBITION ON TRAFFIC-OFFENSE QUOTAS. (a) A political subdivision or an agency of this state may not establish or maintain, formally or informally, a plan to evaluate, promote, compensate, or discipline:
(1) a peace officer according to the officer's issuance of a predetermined or specified number of any type or combination of types of traffic citations; or
(2) a justice of the peace or a judge of a county court, statutory county court, municipal court, or municipal court of record according to the amount of money the justice or judge collects from persons convicted of a traffic offense.
(b) A political subdivision or an agency of this state may not require or suggest to a peace officer, a justice of the peace, or a judge of a county court, statutory county court, municipal court, or municipal court of record:
(1) that the peace officer is required or expected to issue a predetermined or specified number of any type or combination of types of traffic citations within a specified period; or
(2) that the justice or judge is required or expected to collect a predetermined amount of money from persons convicted of a traffic offense within a specified period.
(c) Repealed by Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 737, Sec. 1, eff. June 19, 2009.
(d) This section does not prohibit a municipality from obtaining budgetary information from a municipal court or a municipal court of record, including an estimate of the amount of money the court anticipates will be collected in a budget year.
(e) A violation of this section by an elected official is misconduct and a ground for removal from office. A violation of this section by a person who is not an elected official is a ground for removal from the person's position.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Conviction" means the rendition of an order by a court imposing a punishment of incarceration or a fine.
(2) "Traffic offense" means an offense under:
(A) Chapter 521; or
(B) Subtitle C.
Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
Amended by:
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 737, Sec. 1, eff. June 19, 2009.
(1) a peace officer according to the officer's issuance of a predetermined or specified number of any type or combination of types of traffic citations; or
(2) a justice of the peace or a judge of a county court, statutory county court, municipal court, or municipal court of record according to the amount of money the justice or judge collects from persons convicted of a traffic offense.
(b) A political subdivision or an agency of this state may not require or suggest to a peace officer, a justice of the peace, or a judge of a county court, statutory county court, municipal court, or municipal court of record:
(1) that the peace officer is required or expected to issue a predetermined or specified number of any type or combination of types of traffic citations within a specified period; or
(2) that the justice or judge is required or expected to collect a predetermined amount of money from persons convicted of a traffic offense within a specified period.
(c) Repealed by Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 737, Sec. 1, eff. June 19, 2009.
(d) This section does not prohibit a municipality from obtaining budgetary information from a municipal court or a municipal court of record, including an estimate of the amount of money the court anticipates will be collected in a budget year.
(e) A violation of this section by an elected official is misconduct and a ground for removal from office. A violation of this section by a person who is not an elected official is a ground for removal from the person's position.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Conviction" means the rendition of an order by a court imposing a punishment of incarceration or a fine.
(2) "Traffic offense" means an offense under:
(A) Chapter 521; or
(B) Subtitle C.
Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
Amended by:
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 737, Sec. 1, eff. June 19, 2009.
169.985 TRAFFIC CITATION QUOTA PROHIBITED.
A law enforcement agency may not order, mandate, require, or suggest to a peace officer a quota for the issuance of traffic citations, including administrative citations authorized under section 169.999, on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or yearly basis.
299D.08 TRAFFIC CITATION QUOTA PROHIBITED.
The State Patrol or a law enforcement agency shall not order, mandate, require, or suggest to a patrol trooper, commercial vehicle inspector, or law compliance representative that the patrol trooper, inspector, or representative issue a certain number of traffic citations on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or yearly quota basis.
A law enforcement agency may not order, mandate, require, or suggest to a peace officer a quota for the issuance of traffic citations, including administrative citations authorized under section 169.999, on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or yearly basis.
299D.08 TRAFFIC CITATION QUOTA PROHIBITED.
The State Patrol or a law enforcement agency shall not order, mandate, require, or suggest to a patrol trooper, commercial vehicle inspector, or law compliance representative that the patrol trooper, inspector, or representative issue a certain number of traffic citations on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or yearly quota basis.
Arrest Quota Defined
41600. For purposes of this chapter, "arrest quota" means any requirement regarding the number of arrests made, or the number of citations issued, by a peace officer, or parking enforcement employee, or the proportion of those arrests made and citations issued by a peace officer or parking enforcement employee, relative to the arrests made and citations issued by another peace officer or parking enforcement employee, or group of officers or employees.
Added Ch. 1111, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 105, Stats. 2002. Effective January 1, 2003.
Citation Defined
41601. For purposes of this chapter, "citation" means a notice to appear, notice of violation, or notice of parking violation.
Added Ch. 1111, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977
Arrest Quota Prohibited
41602. No state or local agency employing peace officers or parking enforcement employees engaged in the enforcement of this code or any local ordinance adopted pursuant to this code, may establish any policy requiring any peace officer or parking enforcement employees to meet an arrest quota.
Amended Sec. 3, Ch. 105, Stats. 2002. Effective January 1, 2003.
41600. For purposes of this chapter, "arrest quota" means any requirement regarding the number of arrests made, or the number of citations issued, by a peace officer, or parking enforcement employee, or the proportion of those arrests made and citations issued by a peace officer or parking enforcement employee, relative to the arrests made and citations issued by another peace officer or parking enforcement employee, or group of officers or employees.
Added Ch. 1111, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 105, Stats. 2002. Effective January 1, 2003.
Citation Defined
41601. For purposes of this chapter, "citation" means a notice to appear, notice of violation, or notice of parking violation.
Added Ch. 1111, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977
Arrest Quota Prohibited
41602. No state or local agency employing peace officers or parking enforcement employees engaged in the enforcement of this code or any local ordinance adopted pursuant to this code, may establish any policy requiring any peace officer or parking enforcement employees to meet an arrest quota.
Amended Sec. 3, Ch. 105, Stats. 2002. Effective January 1, 2003.
Each state has laws on the books prohibiting Quotas. There have been recent news stories about municipalities violation these laws, but the laws exists in every state and have for years.
02-21-2011, 12:58 PM
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Wow. I'm reading this thread and all I can think off is that there are a lot of people that agree that they are doing something illegal like having tinted windows or driving without lights on and that it is the fault of the police for stopping them.
I am NOT being all high and mighty. I have done the same thing. I f-ing got pulled over by the SAME cop twice for tinted windows. I didn't blame him.
Cops are paid to do different jobs. Some are paid to petrol, some to investigate and some just to sit on the highway to ticket people. All are somewhat independent. It is just like a normal company. People in customer service do different jobs from the CEO who does something different from R&D. You will not have the resources to investigate crimes if it were not for the tickets. Necessary evil.
Shotgun - The cop was being honest that no one would look for your stolen car. Kinda sucks and maybe he should have chosen different words, but that is the reality.
OP - My recommendation is to pay the fine, change your tint and remember to turn your lights on. It happens.
Some of you guys need to sit back and think about what cops really do.
I am NOT being all high and mighty. I have done the same thing. I f-ing got pulled over by the SAME cop twice for tinted windows. I didn't blame him.
Cops are paid to do different jobs. Some are paid to petrol, some to investigate and some just to sit on the highway to ticket people. All are somewhat independent. It is just like a normal company. People in customer service do different jobs from the CEO who does something different from R&D. You will not have the resources to investigate crimes if it were not for the tickets. Necessary evil.
Shotgun - The cop was being honest that no one would look for your stolen car. Kinda sucks and maybe he should have chosen different words, but that is the reality.
OP - My recommendation is to pay the fine, change your tint and remember to turn your lights on. It happens.
Some of you guys need to sit back and think about what cops really do.
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02-21-2011, 03:25 PM
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Not turning lights on a foggy day = illegal
Tints on the front = illegal
just pay shit and don't do it again.
cops are there to help you out when you need to get helped.
in this case, that particular cop was helping other drivers by preventing crash that might have been caused by you due to not having enough visibility.
Tints on the front = illegal
just pay shit and don't do it again.
cops are there to help you out when you need to get helped.
in this case, that particular cop was helping other drivers by preventing crash that might have been caused by you due to not having enough visibility.
02-21-2011, 03:34 PM
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I kind of agree with you on your other points, but IMO going out solely for the purpose of distributing tickets (radar traps, etc.) isn't much more than a money-grabbing scheme. But then again, we only have limited insight into this kind of stuff.
02-21-2011, 03:51 PM
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Just so I'm clear.... I don't think I've stated anywhere in this thread that I DISAGREE with his reason to pull me over. My original question was to simply find out 'having no headlight on during foggy weather' is illegal b/c I wasn't aware of it. I guess I know not. I've never said 'screw copy for pulling me over'.
now on the tint question - Once again, I've never said I don't deserve it nor he should waive the citation simply b/c I've never been pulled over before. It is a sucky situation and i'm trying to make a decision whether to change it out completely. Once again, some ppl may have read too much into my questions....
now on the tint question - Once again, I've never said I don't deserve it nor he should waive the citation simply b/c I've never been pulled over before. It is a sucky situation and i'm trying to make a decision whether to change it out completely. Once again, some ppl may have read too much into my questions....
02-21-2011, 04:10 PM
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I like diving before the sun's up. Nice and quiet.
I kind of agree with you on your other points, but IMO going out solely for the purpose of distributing tickets (radar traps, etc.) isn't much more than a money-grabbing scheme. But then again, we only have limited insight into this kind of stuff.
I kind of agree with you on your other points, but IMO going out solely for the purpose of distributing tickets (radar traps, etc.) isn't much more than a money-grabbing scheme. But then again, we only have limited insight into this kind of stuff.
BUT....
Why is it any different than a meter maid? Their function within the police force is to distribute tickets for illegal parking. A trooper actually uses discretion on who they pull over for speeding. You may get away with 5 mph over, but not 10. Part of it is to generate money but it also is meant to protect. All of this helps fund the guy stopping a murder. That is the point.
We see it as a money grabbing scheme and we are also the first ones to complain that crime rates are high and that we need better protection. You can't have it both ways.
Again....I am not perfect when it comes to driving. I speed. I had tinted windows. I even turned on red a couple times. But I also spent 8 years teaching at a college for Criminal Justice and spent a lot of time speaking with cops in my class. We should have more respect for what they do.
02-21-2011, 04:12 PM
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Just so I'm clear.... I don't think I've stated anywhere in this thread that I DISAGREE with his reason to pull me over. My original question was to simply find out 'having no headlight on during foggy weather' is illegal b/c I wasn't aware of it. I guess I know not. I've never said 'screw copy for pulling me over'.
now on the tint question - Once again, I've never said I don't deserve it nor he should waive the citation simply b/c I've never been pulled over before. It is a sucky situation and i'm trying to make a decision whether to change it out completely. Once again, some ppl may have read too much into my questions....
now on the tint question - Once again, I've never said I don't deserve it nor he should waive the citation simply b/c I've never been pulled over before. It is a sucky situation and i'm trying to make a decision whether to change it out completely. Once again, some ppl may have read too much into my questions....
02-22-2011, 04:25 PM
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If you break the law and get caught and ticketed/fined then own up to it especially if you knew you were breaking the law.
As for the OP, you may have not known that you needed your lights on in adverse weather conditions but that violation in itself is a small fine. Also in GA, you can have up to 35% all around. Not sure if OP knew about that or not but im sure if you get that fixed, your ticket will be reduced to just a processing fee (at least in CA).
As for the OP, you may have not known that you needed your lights on in adverse weather conditions but that violation in itself is a small fine. Also in GA, you can have up to 35% all around. Not sure if OP knew about that or not but im sure if you get that fixed, your ticket will be reduced to just a processing fee (at least in CA).
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