I’ve owned my 03 tl-s for about 2 years now and I love it but I already went through one tranny and its starting to go on me again. So I want to get rid of the headache. I’ve been looking at the G35 coupes. If I was to get one it would be an 05-06 six speed.. I plan on owning this car for a long time as a dailydriver, how reliable are these cars? I’ve heard something about oil consumption but do the newer models still have this issue? I know theres alot of helpful people in this forum that could help me with making this choice. I just dont want to make a mistake jumping into this car without doing my research first becuase I wouldn't have bought my TL if i knew about the tranny problems ahead of time.

 

They are pretty damn reliable.
The '05+ has the interior upgrade.
Go for it.

 

Wait a few more months, the 1st gen G coupes are just starting to come down in price, and should be quite a bit lower in a few more months, if their values mimic the same of sedans. The old G sedans dropped in value quickly with in the first few months, some people lost a few thousand dollars by waiting to trade to the new sedan and were whinning about it on the forums.

 

If you sell your TL, are you going to part out your parts?

 

Do it!! try to go for an 06 on the coupe though, they made some more subtle revisions on top of the 05 and it looks even better!

The main complaint i see people bitching about is that it guzzles gas, but other than that it's a pretty solid ride.

 

And the tire wear.

 

If gas mileage and losing two doors isn't a concern for you... go for it...

 

^+1

 

I came from a Mustang GT so 2 doors aint a problem. So looks like This car might be the one. I went over to the g35 forums and while I was brosing I read that there are problems with the piston rings wich is causing the oil consumtion issue. That makes me nervouse about buying this car because I plan on owning it even when the warerenty is up. Its a shame because I really want to get it. Its such a nice looking car and I love the way its exhaust sounds.

 

Go for it!

 

Have you driven a 6MT G35 yet? If not, I would highly suggest you give one an extensive test drive because I personally could not live with the amount of vibration that is felt through the shifter. Some might be able to tolerate it, but I just wouldn't be able to justify the lack of refinement.

Don't get me wrong, the G35 coupes are great looking cars (though I know I'm in the minority who finds the exhaust note extremely whiny and irritating). Still, in the end, it's all about the drive IMO.

 

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Forgot about that issue. Supposedly the new coupe fixes that.

 

It's built on a sports car. And you want to feel what the car is doing. The shifter is directly connected to the transmission and not cable driven like Honda's are. So you don't get that dull feeling.

The shifter vibration isn't even that bad to worry about. My TL small vibration at stop lights bothered me more than the shifter vibration of the G. lol.

 

I've gone on a (fun) test drive in a 6MT G37, and while the vibrations have been reduced to the point where they'd be livable on a day-to-day basis, they're still present nevertheless.

I sincerely hope the side-effect doesn't translate into the GT-R since I want one as my next car, but I'm not going to hold my breath...

 

I agree that you want to feel what the car is doing, but I would prefer feeling it through the clutch engagement and not through the shifter. IMO, shifter feel should be about gate feel and solidity, and I didn't like either in the 2006 6MT G35 coupe I drove (a bit notchy, and the vibration didn't instill a sense of solidity).

I'm not sure which Honda's you've driven, but I suggest that you try shifting a S2000 and a TSX. Both cars have been regarded by many to have some of the best shifters out there (second to Porsche).

 

Yes but they are cable driven. They may shift great, but they aren't directly connected to the transmission.

You do know even the LSX powered cars also vibrate. So a C6 Z06 vibrates for a 70k car.

 

GT-R has a dual clutch sequential manual tranny.

 

Auto tranny actually in the DSG GT-R. If it was a manual it would have a clutch. It's more like a auto with SS mode.

 

Its dual clutch.

 

Going off topic...

It has no torque converter. It indeed has a clutch (2 of them, actually). It is similar to automated MANUAL transmissions offered by BMW, Audi, Maserati, Ferrari, etc.

It is NOTHING like an auto with SS mode, which is basically a real AUTOMATIC tranny (torque converter and all) that just lets you select when it should shift.

 

A manual transmission car wouldn't allow you to shift on it's own. That is why it has a clutch pedal. It still acts like a auto with SS. Autos have Clutch's

The DSG still isn't as efficient as a Manual car, but it's better than a normal automatic.



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http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyoune...owDSGworks.htm

BorgWarner's dual-clutch DSG (direct-shift gearbox) transmission systems have been showing up in Volkswagen and Audi vehicles since 2003. The system utilizes two clutches to select gears, allowing for smooth, uninterrupted power delivery. The clutches are electro-hydraulically actuated, allowing for virtually instant gear changes and control logic that pre-selects the next required gear. While BorgWarner's original DSG design has allowed for greater fuel-efficiency over traditional automatic transmissions, it has had room for improvement. The original design is a wet-clutch system, meaning the clutches operate in a bath of oil to keep temperatures down and eliminate wear. The oiling system requires large pumps to keep up the constant flow through the system and it also creates hydraulic drag that affects efficiency.

However, with recent announcements coming out of the BorgWarner camp, it is apparent they are still on the leading edge of dual-clutch transmission development. The company is slated to provide systems for the upcoming Nissan GT-R and BMW M3. These are high power output applications that would be hindered by BorgWarner's original DSG design without improvements. For these next generation systems the wet-clutch system has been changed to a moist-clutch system requiring less lubrication and therefore a smaller oil pump. This also reduces hydraulic drag on the system, thus reducing drivetrain losses. The clutch materials have also been improved for heat transfer and wear properties. The use of materials that do not degrade with friction or waste mechanical energy through heat generation allow the clutch design to live in these more stressful environments and to do so more efficiently.

 

Did nissan come up with a fix for the oil burning problem? Thats the only concern i have about purchasing this car.

 

Ok, let's really go off topic for a moment...

Pimpin-tl's post:
Your statement is stating that the GT-R's tranny is "Auto tranny actually", and not a manual because "if it was a manual it would have a clutch". Since the GT-R has 2 clutches, according to your statement, this would qualify it as a manual.

Then you post all the technical differences and advantages/disadvantages between a DSG, traditional manual, and traditional automatic transmissions, but this does not have anything to do with the GT-R's tranny being an automatic or manual. But then you also post that it "acts" like an auto with SS.

I don't know about you, but I would rather define something by what it is mechanically than by the way it "acts". With that said, a DSG/SMG/etc. is closer to a manual transmission than an automatic, and in essence, it IS a manual transmission with an automated clutch system, whether it is a single clutch or dual clutch or whatever.

For an analogy, let's say a ricer gets his hands on a set of halogen bulbs that are up-wattaged and tinted to look exactly like xenon lights. Are you going to say that because these lights "act" like xenon lights, they "are" xenon lights?

 

I appoligize. I was unclear on what I said. I meant to say clutch pedal.

The GT-R is still a automatic transmission. It might have a dual clutch setup, but it is still a auto. Normal autos have clutch packs. Just a different type of setup.

To what I read in the articles, it's closer to a auto than a manual. Still has drivetrain loss like a auto just not as bad. Still uses FLUID, not dry clutches like a manual. Still shifts for you, or you can do it yourself with paddles.

 

Well, that's where our differences in opinion lie and that's where you are wrong. It is NOT an automatic transmission and if you do your research, it mechanically is more similar to a manual transmission, not an automatic.

Call it what you want, clutchless manual transmission, dual-clutch transmission, automated manual transmission, e-gear, or paddle shift gearbox, etc. But calling it an "automatic transmission" is incorrect. Even calling it a "manual" transmission is incorrect, but is less incorrect than calling it an "automatic".

and while you're doing your research, also look up why your "uses FLUID" statement is also wrong because one is based on using fluid to TRANSFER TORQUE from one shaft to another (ie the slushbox), while the other uses it for lubrication and cooling. My motorcycle's SEQUENTIAL MANUAL transmission operated in a bath of FLUID, does that make it an "automatic" per your logic?

 

Whatever you want to call it, it makes the car faster both in acceleration and around a track. Which is the reason most high performance cars are now using them. Thats all I need to hear.

 

well i have S2000 and G35C.... while the Shifter in the S2k is probably one of the best in the world... it vibrates too, especially when it is in gear.
And i dont understand what you mean by you can live with it on daily basis... it is a SHIFTER.. do you hold your shifter while you are driving like an arm rest?

 

no it is not.. it is more like F1 than Auto with SS mode.

Auto with SS is :gheylaugh: , and i had one

 

This thread has wildly gotten off topic.

 

Tell me about it....

 

I just bought an '05 IP and I absolutely love it...so I say -- GO FOR IT!!! Plus I believe there's a TSB for the oil consumption.

 

So what there’s also a TSB for my TL`s tranny, I still don’t want to deal with it... What about when the warranty is up??? Then I’m stuck with it and having to pay thousands to fix it. From what i understand is that infiniti/nissan is replacing the motors with new motors with the same exact oil burning problems. Sure you get a new engine but then the new one will also eat oil so its not really a fix.

 

http://www.g35driver.com/forums/show...il+consumption

It's being taken care of and I don't think you have anything to worry about. There really isn't anything to freak out about.

 

Thanx for your help. But is this a permenant fix? Or is it a bandaid fix. Ive read that the new engines are still using up oil. I really want this carrr!! lol

 

no offense, but why arent you on g35 driver doing your research. Asking opinions from a limited pool isn't going to get you the info you need.

 

I did do research on g35 driver. This after all is CAR talk. I want opinions from a non bias group.

 

^ opinions are fine, but looking for factual issues and what not is better found on a site with a plethora of G35 info. facts>opinions.

 

some vq35de engines have been known to burn oil ... however i dont think it is as widespread problem as the transmission recall is for honda ... it may seem like a bigger problem then it really is due to the fact that most people on forums come onto the forum cuz they are having the problem ...

i have a nissan altima with the vq engine that has 104k miles on it, and duznt burn a drop of oil ...

I would say go for it, and i think you should be fine, g35 are solid built cars