BreezyTL

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Those are nice as well. Congrats on moving on to a new car. Rockstar 2.0 in the making?

00TL-P3.2

Nah, he needs a few more kids, and more shitboxes
@rockstar143

rockstar143

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pullout game WEAK!
on both fronts.

Aman

Congrats! It sounds like you're already much happier with this car than the Accord. Giving up some creature comforts for ergonomics/feel was a good call. I'm interested to hear your thoughts once you've covered break-in miles and can really get on it.

rockstar143

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I want to hear the positives and negatives after the honeymoon period!

SuperTrooper169

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Thanks Aman! We took the N on a road trip up to the in-laws for the 4th. The three big takeaways from the trip are 1) It gets just as good gas mileage as the Accord, 2) Back seat passenger space is much smaller/tighter than the Accord, and 3) While much better, the seats still aren't comfortable for me!

The best part of the road trip though was when I finally reached 600 miles. I waited until after we got home and had a chance to go on a grocery store run by myself. I did a slow rolling WOT to 70ish and it pulled so freaking hard! It was an absolute RIOT! It was torture waiting 600 miles to go over 4k RPM, but man it was worth it because when I finally did I was giggling like a school girl! It feels like a properly fast car. It pulled hard all the way to redline, which the Accord felt like it hit a wall around 5.5k RPM. I absolutely love the acceleration. The DCT shifts so fast and firm. It really lives up to the hype from all the online reviewers. It's a fantastic transmission so far. Comparing it to the Accords 10AT is like apples to oranges, it's that good.

That short little run really made up for some of the sacrifices, which there definitely are some. I'll get more into that once I've had more time with the car. But considering it's been insanely hot and humid here lately and the car performed that well, I can't wait for some cooler weather!!



I'll give it more time before I go into a full breakdown of the pros and cons, but as I mentioned to Aman -- the seats are still a point of contention for me. They are leaps and bounds better than the Accord, especially in the pressure points I was feeling in my butt. The extra legroom up front really helped because I could stretch my legs out and move them around more than the Accord. But the bolsters are pretty aggressive which means they are tight on the sides, making for a lot of readjusting on the road trip. I've heard they break-in after a while, so I'm really hoping that happens, otherwise I may need to go to an upholstery shop or maybe swap in N-line seats that are way less bolstered. What I can conclude so far is I'd rather deal with some seat discomfort in a car that puts a huge smile on my face than one that doesn't. This car will definitely fulfill my need to be a complete juvenile with the pops, bangs and burbles, hard, quick shifting and fun woosh-whoosh noises while being pushed back into the seat.

I saw someone make a great point when comparing the Elantra N to the Accord 2.0T. He said the Accord is a family sedan that can feel like a fast car, but the Elantra N is a fast car that can feel like a family sedan. That's exactly my assessment so far. It leans much more toward the performance car realm than the Accord, which shouldn't come as a surprise.

00TL-P3.2

Accord X to Elantra, I'd expect a much smaller back seat. A Sonata I'd expect closer in size with the Accord.
I do like a nicely bolstered seat, but I'm 6'0" 165lb

SuperTrooper169

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Yeah true, it's more comparable to the Civic platform, not the Accord, but YouTube reviewers like to exaggerate things and say there's tons of room in the backseat. There definitely is not.

civicdrivr

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I've noticed that most of those YouTubers are 5'7". Everything is full sized to them.

00TL-P3.2

The Accord X is a bit of an outlier as well, as the back seat rivaled my 2016 F150 for rear legroom.

rockstar143

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My sciatica has been bugging me and every damn car seat seems annoying to me now...
except the e320 wagon, those are fuckin spectacular.

00TL-P3.2

MB > *

rockstar143

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Basically, yes.
Mom doesn't like the color but even she couldn't believe how good the interior is on it

SuperTrooper169

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No back problems for me, just big boned. The Charger seats were just so unbelievably comfortable, so nothing will live up to those unless I spend $$$ on a luxury car.

rockstar143

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Have you ever sat in a Volvo? Especially an older one??!

civicdrivr

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Volvo seats are some of the best in the business.

rockstar143

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That 2015 V60 was incredible as far as comfort...and the 2004 XC90 as well!

SamDoe1

Or...another Charger?

SuperTrooper169

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Hmmm I do like Volvos. Maybe in a year or two I'll start digging. I'm gonna stick it out with the EN for a while I think.

00TL-P3.2

If I were to go Volvo, it'd be either a V60 or XC60
But, their reputation precedes them on the reliability side.

1killercls

What is the motor? 2.0T ?

rockstar143

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I had that new economy 2.0t and it was plenty quick with the polestar factory tune on it...
v60 or 90 for me but I'm a sucker for wagons.

civicdrivr

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It's the twin charged (turbo and supercharged) 2.0t that's a nightmare. Aside from sounding like crap, the transmissions really hold them back. It wouldn't be too bad with a dual clutch.

SamDoe1

Nightmare in what regard? Overall reliability?

rockstar143

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panties being thrown at the windshield affecting visibility...
unsafe af.

SuperTrooper169

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It definitely crossed my mind at one point, but I'm enjoying the almost double MPG right now. It would be hard to go back. This car is amazing me with its efficiency despite my fun thrashing of it. I went on an errand last night and on the way home I felt like the Stig on some local curvy backroads, and I've been engaging N mode a ton and I'm still averaging 25+ MPG. That matches the best all-time MPG I ever got in the Charger and that was on a long road trip pre-mods.

CLtotheTL32

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I'm glad you're enjoying it

rockstar143

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Moments of elation like that are what it's all about, man.
Super glad you're happy.

SuperTrooper169

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Thanks doods! I'm finally adjusting to the seats. I feel like they are breaking in a little bit. The car is just so much fun!

rockstar143

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Just kidding bro.
Can't believe you bought a North Korean car!

RPhilMan1

That's what the N is for, right?

rockstar143

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Cheeze and Crust! Nooo!
Do NOT use that word!

oonowindoo

Nice!! Best car in that segment!

Just can't stop thinking a 200hp Integra 6mt costs the same

Aman

So happy you're getting to just enjoy driving the car. When I went from my Passat to the Focus ST I was shocked at how much of a difference there was in the driving experience.

FWIW, I'm a burly dude as well and the Focus Recaros did break in for me - I think it's reasonable to expect the seats to get more comfortable over time.

rockstar143

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I use the S2000 seats to gauge how much ice cream I'm allowed...

SuperTrooper169

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Haha I swear after getting frozen custard with the family the other night the seats felt tighter on the way home.

rockstar143

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It's a load of bullshit...
gdang dryer shrunk my clothes again type shit

oonowindoo

I would love to test drive a 6mt one....

Why didnt you get the 6mt? #savethemanual

SuperTrooper169

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I wanted the DCT so my wife could drive the car in a pinch. I haven't had a manual in almost 10 years. I still love them, but now that I've experienced what a good dual clutch feels like it would be hard to go back to a traditional automatic. The EN's DCT is awesome, especially in manual mode with the paddles. It really feels a lot like a manual. Best of both worlds IMO.

oonowindoo

absolutely. From performance or even fuel efficiency perspectives, DCT and ZF8 are much better than 6mt.

But it is still not the same. My last 6mt was my 2013 335i... almost 10 years ago and my wife still finds my hand on my auto shift knob "grinding" like every time i drive i dont even realize doing it, especially before a turn in She would be like "what are you doing with your hand?"

Muscle memories are real