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Old 06-26-2008, 12:48 PM
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Stop me from buying a Mini Cooper!

I don't think you can. I was pretty set on ordering a 135i a few weeks ago until I drove the new Mini Cooper-S. I always liked Mini's but never thought it was for me. Anyway, here are my impressions

            The '08 MCS I'm going to order came out to about $33k out the door. It includes the sport package, quaife lsd, xenons, navigation, etc. This is about $7k cheaper than the 135i I was going to order, not to mention it's cheaper to insure and gets about 10mpg more. I'm a driver first, commuter second. If you ask me, from a driver's standpoint, in this case the Mini truly is the Ultimate Driving Machine.

            I found these pics online, very similar to what I'm ordering

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            Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini but here's what I hear over and over about them:

            1. Initial Quality doesn't last long
            2. Ride is brutal
            3. Noisy

            $33k for a Mini Cooper S would (I assume) have the John Cooper Works package?

            I dunno. I think that's pretty high. Are they holding to sticker on those cars?
            Old 06-26-2008, 12:56 PM
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            Supposedly those issues were resolved with the new (now 2yr old) R56 Mini. After a couple test drives I believe it, but I can't speak for long term quality. Most of the mini forum owners are pretty happy. Pre 2007 Mini's are R53's.

            From what I understand R56 production is very limited, it is very difficult to get the car under MSRP. I've heard of some getting a few hundred below, but that's really it. I hear they are being marked up in SoCal.
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            I cant help you. Ive banned myself from driving one for fear I would do something unreasonable to buy one.
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            I can't stop you becuase I'm buying one next year to replace my '04 TSX. I test drove one and I can't stop thinking about it. On top of that I drive way too far to work everyday and the gas mileage is great.

            Great gas mileage and fun to drive......no brainer for my needs.

            It's one of those cars though that you either love or hate, so I would expect that to ocme in this thread....that and you'll hear the "chick car" crap, but I'm perfectly comfortable with my manhood
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            I've always liked the Mini Coopers... I may be wrong, but since it's debut... it's held the top spot for best resale value... and It's got great mpg. Tho, when I looked at them I was considering a used one.
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            I just feel I've graduated from FWD and wouldn't much care to go back. It's a cool car and for some people that's not a big deal though.
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            It's cute but definitely not for me. I honestly could find a better way to spend 33k + interest.
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            they are awesome on the track! but, i wouldn't own one. imho 135 ftw
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            almost 40mpg and very easily tuned.

            GO FOR IT!
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            Originally Posted by Brandon24pdx
            I just feel I've graduated from FWD and wouldn't much care to go back. It's a cool car and for some people that's not a big deal though.
            Curious as to what car you have that would out-handle the Mini.
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            Do it. Sounds like the perfect car for you. 135 is kinda

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            Originally Posted by o2cls
            almost 40mpg and very easily tuned.

            GO FOR IT!
            +1
            with gas prices the way they are, even i would prefer a mini...at least as daily driver or something.
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            I wish my wife would let me have one. I've spent a few hours in a couple different S's. It is by far one of the most entertaining vehicles I have ever driven.


            It's not the fastest to 60, it's not the most comfortable. But that thing is an F'ing BLAST to drive!!!

            I got to throw one around that was on R-Compounds and had full suspension is all I can say!
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            You've driven a 135, right? It's catnip for anyone who even remotely likes driving. I don't think I could get a Mini over a 135 -- I'd kick myself for passing on the turbo I6 and rwd.
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            Originally Posted by 1killercls
            :chickcar:

            says the guy who drives a Mazda
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            Originally Posted by CLpower
            says the guy who drives a Mazda
            Bahahahaaha ... HEY WAIT A MINUTE

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            Well, one thing's for sure: Moog-Type-S certainly won't be stopping you.
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            my sister had an 04 Mini S and yes that thing was a BLAST to drive! chick car or not i'd definitely rock one (has to be an S of course). she traded it for a C class and misses the Mini everyday lol
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            I'll stop you. Quick, PM me all your bank and credit info.... account numbers, passwords, etc.

            no money = no Mini Cooper
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            I guess you guys already spoke for me

            My MINI has been one of the most reliable cars I have owned....that says ALOT.

            The MINI Cooper brings a smile to my face EVERY time I take it for a drive.
            The handling is like nothing else. Go Kart handling FTW.

            I'd buy one again, no question about it (if I was still in the market for one).........but
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            I am the minority here, but I never really liked the Mini, I heard such rave reviews when they came out, then I drove one in base trim and wasn't for me. A few years later I spent a few hours with a new S and it still just didn't do it for me, in particular when you factor in the poor reliability and high costs to maintain. Personally, I don't like the dash lay out, that giant center gauge, the power window levers are too retro for me, I guess the same could be said of how I feel about the whole car. For $33k it would be on the bottom of my list, but we are all different.
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            Originally Posted by o2cls
            Curious as to what car you have that would out-handle the Mini.
            E46 coupe. Not saying it or wouldn't, I just know which end of the car it's more fun to put power to.
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            Originally Posted by iTimmy
            I am the minority here, but I never really liked the Mini, I heard such rave reviews when they came out, then I drove one in base trim and wasn't for me. A few years later I spent a few hours with a new S and it still just didn't do it for me, in particular when you factor in the poor reliability and high costs to maintain. Personally, I don't like the dash lay out, that giant center gauge, the power window levers are too retro for me, I guess the same could be said of how I feel about the whole car. For $33k it would be on the bottom of my list, but we are all different.
            Free maintenance = ZERO $$ for service
            There is no High cost for maintenance.

            The first 2 model years of the first gen had there share of problems no doubt, but since then, reliability hasn't been an issue. I'd put them on par with any other make.
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            The mini is a great choice, but if you are going to buy a small, go-kart handling speedster, then you owe it to yourself to test drive a miata. For what you are paying you could get one outfitted with the upcoming cosworth SC.
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            BUY BUY BUY!!!

            Haha, Mini Coopers are the shiz.
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            Originally Posted by o2cls
            almost 40mpg and very easily tuned.

            GO FOR IT!
            The S's get anywhere from 22-27mpg, the base models can get 30s. I doubt anyone on the boards are getting 40....

            With that being said, who cares.
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            Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
            Free maintenance = ZERO $$ for service
            There is no High cost for maintenance.

            The first 2 model years of the first gen had there share of problems no doubt, but since then, reliability hasn't been an issue. I'd put them on par with any other make.
            I wasn't aware Mini was offering that now too, learn something new everyday
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            Originally Posted by charliemike
            Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini but here's what I hear over and over about them:

            1. Initial Quality doesn't last long
            2. Ride is brutal
            3. Noisy

            $33k for a Mini Cooper S would (I assume) have the John Cooper Works package?

            ...I dunno. I think that's pretty high.


            I've always liked the Mini, as well as the Miata (I guess I'm a chick-car kinda guy... where's that turbo Beetle and Smart Car... ), but the interior noise level would be an issue for me in day-to-day commuting. I would likely not enjoy straight two hours+ drives @ 70 mph on the freeway for longer trips.
            And yes, the Mini has a below-par repair history.
            That pretty much explains why I would shop the 135/335/TL/G35/G37 instead.
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            If I wanted to save on gas, that would be the number one car on my list. I've always loved em...With the price of a barrel expected to hit $170 by the end of summer, i'm really thinking about tossing the TL for something more effecient, but everything i'd consider gets equal or worse MPG 40 MPG in the Mini sounds really tempting...
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            Originally Posted by SakiGT
            The S's get anywhere from 22-27mpg, the base models can get 30s. I doubt anyone on the boards are getting 40....

            With that being said, who cares.

            The new ones are supposed to get 40. Of course if you drive aggressively, you may only get something in the twenties, but the only reason I know about the MPG's is that there is a billboard on the side of the highway not far from where I live that says

            "40 MPG's....

            ...41 with a good tailwind"
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            I've come to like Mini's the more time has passed since they came out (here). Enjoy the new car.
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            Buy one. Amazing little cars and incredibly fun to drive.
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            I would go for the 135i although I do like the mini's.

            rwd>fwd
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            the thing is, the mini's FWD never really comes into effect.
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            some of you are calling it a "chick car"? All I know is... a bunch of times I've seen guys driving one, with a hawt chick in the passenger seat
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            Originally Posted by is300eater
            some of you are calling it a "chick car"? All I know is... a bunch of times I've seen guys driving one, with a hawt chick in the passenger seat
            It was only the old man who called it that
            He's out of touch.
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            I say go for it! Awesome little cars that can look great, drive great, awesome MPG, feels great, etc etc etc...

            Also the interior lights that change are pretty cool DO ETTTTTTT!
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