spraying 2002 maxima(auto) VS modded v8 TRANSAM
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spraying 2002 maxima(auto) VS modded v8 TRANSAM
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damn kilogram. that's a quick maxima.
does that say a 1.6 60'?
does that say a 1.6 60'?
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Originally Posted by mattg
damn kilogram. that's a quick maxima.
does that say a 1.6 60'?
does that say a 1.6 60'?
yes he has hit a 1.6 60' on slicks
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Hey! That looks like my Maxima; too bad it wasnt. Nice clip!!
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We have had discussions about this maxima before. The car is TOTALLY stripped and given the full weight reduction procedure. No seats, door panels, stereo, etc. If you did that to a blown CL-S it would be just as fast.
No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.
Still a fast fucking car.
No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.
Still a fast fucking car.
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All motor he traps at 102 MPH. You gotta look at that. A 6-speed CL-S would trap that high with I/H/E. Stock they trap around 98MPH. Totally gut the car like this one and use slicks and you would see similar numbers. No one has run a 100 shot that I know of and run on slicks while doing it. I bet a 6-Speed CL-S with I/H/E/Unichip(I know it isn't available, yet)/100 Shot/Slicks/interior gutted would run similar, if not better times. 12.1 is a really, really fast time. Something he can thank his MT slicks for. The best 60' I've seen from a CL-S is around 1.9. For every tenth you take off your 60' you should lose 2 tenths off your ET. Not an exact science, but more or less a general rule of thumb. But 113MPH isn't quite as fast as I'd suspect. I bet with the mods I listed the CL-S would trap higher.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
We have had discussions about this maxima before. The car is TOTALLY stripped and given the full weight reduction procedure. No seats, door panels, stereo, etc. If you did that to a blown CL-S it would be just as fast.
No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.
Still a fast fucking car.
No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.
Still a fast fucking car.
It weighs just over 3k lbs.
btw the T/A was on slicks.
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This car is not totally stripped down, just the back seat removed. Front seats, door panels, stereo, A/C etc is all intact. In fact I just bought this car in March of this year.
It weighs just over 3k lbs.
btw the T/A was on slicks.
It weighs just over 3k lbs.
btw the T/A was on slicks.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Jime
This car is not totally stripped down, just the back seat removed. Front seats, door panels, stereo, A/C etc is all intact. In fact I just bought this car in March of this year.
It weighs just over 3k lbs.
btw the T/A was on slicks.
It weighs just over 3k lbs.
btw the T/A was on slicks.
very nice !!!!
congrats on one badass max
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
The A33 chassis Maxima weighs in at about 3225 pounds in stock form, NOT 3400. And it isn't difficult to get the vehicle weight down to about 3000 before driver.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
The A33 chassis Maxima weighs in at about 3225 pounds in stock form, NOT 3400. And it isn't difficult to get the vehicle weight down to about 3000 before driver.
You should expect questioning, otherwise ignorance sure does fit.
Does the automatic transaxle weigh in at 3225?? If so (worse, if not), does the back seat weigh in at 225 lbs?? That is one hefty back seat!!
Point being, there is more to this than a basic bolt on vehicle. Alluding otherwise is childish. Nonetheless it is an impressive time and one that warrants congratulation. All of us V6 FWD guys should be proud of this achievement.
Anyway, I know I wouldn't pull an ET like that. But I am confident my full weight (nothing removed at all) CL-S would trap that high.
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I just weighed my 2k2 Auto Max @ Etown two weeks about. It weighed in at 3,220lbs w/o me and spare tire. NOTE: Englishtown Raceway Park scale.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
The rear seat weighs about 65 lbs. The largest single reduction was in the tire/wheels which totals over 100 lbs. My stock wheels weight 54 lbs each the fronts I use at the track weigh 25 and the rears 23. If I can still add thats 120 lbs. The stuff in the trunk, ie jack, spare etc weighed over 50 lbs.
That totals 235 lbs. I said it weighed just over 3k and its does and its not gutted. It also has no exterior mods at all and it rides and sounds and looks like stock when my wife goes grocery shopping in it.
90% of the mods I have done are listed in the video, the rest really don't amount to much and aren't worth listing. I could list what fuel pump, filter, intake etc but that sort of stuff doesn't make much difference in performance and makes pretty boring reading.
Mods to date are just over $2k so I would say that was basic bolt-ons. The illuminas and headers were over $1000 plus the NX kit is pretty much the bulk of it.
PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
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Anyway, I know I wouldn't pull an ET like that. But I am confident my full weight (nothing removed at all) CL-S would trap that high.
i think you could do it on slicks.
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Originally Posted by Jime
PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
But some of us are making power not to win at the strip. But to explore the limits of the drivetrain. This requires engineering under the hood first and fore most.
But everyone has their own agenda. If I could launch worth a darn in this car I might make a goal to persue better ETs. But for now I will try and determine how we can make more power with the J32A2. That is the more desireble challenge for me.
The trap is the better indicator of power production.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Very true!!
But some of us are making power not to win at the strip. But to explore the limits of the drivetrain. This requires engineering under the hood first and fore most.
But everyone has their own agenda. If I could launch worth a darn in this car I might make a goal to persue better ETs. But for now I will try and determine how we can make more power with the J32A2. That is the more desireble challenge for me.
The trap is the better indicator of power production.
But some of us are making power not to win at the strip. But to explore the limits of the drivetrain. This requires engineering under the hood first and fore most.
But everyone has their own agenda. If I could launch worth a darn in this car I might make a goal to persue better ETs. But for now I will try and determine how we can make more power with the J32A2. That is the more desireble challenge for me.
The trap is the better indicator of power production.
The difficulty is putting it to the ground. That for the most part is not expensive, but its not easy either. I have taken many RWD cars and my Son has a 12.5 sec AWD DSM that still hasn't beaten my 60'. FWD cars can get great hole shots with the right setup.
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i'd like to try slicks, but i'm afraid i'll break my tranny. even so, i'm sure it won't be long before i try it anyway.
i did pull a 2.0 on my 225/40-18 street tires though.
i did pull a 2.0 on my 225/40-18 street tires though.
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Anyone can make power...
our cars are rare.
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Originally Posted by mattg
not the way he's doing it. scalbert is actually creating parts that didn't exhist before. the aftermarket support we have for the cl-s is a drop in the bucket compared to what you max guys have.
our cars are rare.
our cars are rare.
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I also think it's stupid that the CL-S, Maxima and GTP guys don't all get along better. It is nice to have friendly rivalries but we should all try to stick together at some point. We all have different pieces of the puzzles and can help each other if we tried.
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it's still quite a bit more than what we have, for now. plus there are a hell of a lot more people out there modding maximas. more r&d = quicker cars for everyone.
we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.
my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.
my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
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I also think it's stupid that the CL-S, Maxima and GTP guys don't all get along better.
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Originally Posted by mattg
it's still quite a bit more than what we have, for now. plus there are a hell of a lot more people out there modding maximas. more r&d = quicker cars for everyone.
we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.
my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.
my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
That was with my first prototype.
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People calling BS on Jime and myself about our ETs, trap speeds and vehicle weights.
welcome to the internet.
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they just wanted the missing pieces to the puzzle.
welcome to the internet.
welcome to the internet.
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wow. you need to loosen up and learn how to take a joke.
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Originally Posted by Jime
PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
People calling BS on Jime and myself about our ETs, trap speeds and vehicle weights.
No one every questioned the ET or trap speed? How could we!?! We just saw it for ourselves on video. The only thing we questioned was the weight reduction performed. Why are you being so extremely defensive? Don't be so insecure dude. We all said you've got a fast car and said congrats on the time.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Anyone can make power, thats not the difficult part for me. However its the most expensive part.
Contrary to your point it could be said that running quick with little power increases through self development is easy. Just use what others have done, shed weight and run slicks. I know it is more difficult than that but neither should be made trivial.
In addition, a slush box makes it all the easier but less thrilling. :P