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Old 06-04-2004, 10:51 PM
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spraying 2002 maxima(auto) VS modded v8 TRANSAM

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damn kilogram. that's a quick maxima.

does that say a 1.6 60'?
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1.8 i think...still fast
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damn kilogram. that's a quick maxima.

does that say a 1.6 60'?



yes he has hit a 1.6 60' on slicks
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12.1 @ 113 is pretty fucking fast. This is the Max that is totally gutted right?
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Hey! That looks like my Maxima; too bad it wasnt. Nice clip!!
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That maxima is sick!!!! I wonder if the trans am was stock? 12.9 seems fast for a stock T/A but with a good driver and a factory freak you never know.
Old 06-06-2004, 12:42 AM
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gawd damn thats quick, he still ran 13.5 n/a, thats faster than a blown auto cl-s with i/h
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We have had discussions about this maxima before. The car is TOTALLY stripped and given the full weight reduction procedure. No seats, door panels, stereo, etc. If you did that to a blown CL-S it would be just as fast.

No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.

Still a fast fucking car.
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All motor he traps at 102 MPH. You gotta look at that. A 6-speed CL-S would trap that high with I/H/E. Stock they trap around 98MPH. Totally gut the car like this one and use slicks and you would see similar numbers. No one has run a 100 shot that I know of and run on slicks while doing it. I bet a 6-Speed CL-S with I/H/E/Unichip(I know it isn't available, yet)/100 Shot/Slicks/interior gutted would run similar, if not better times. 12.1 is a really, really fast time. Something he can thank his MT slicks for. The best 60' I've seen from a CL-S is around 1.9. For every tenth you take off your 60' you should lose 2 tenths off your ET. Not an exact science, but more or less a general rule of thumb. But 113MPH isn't quite as fast as I'd suspect. I bet with the mods I listed the CL-S would trap higher.
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That's a fast fucking Maxima!
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
We have had discussions about this maxima before. The car is TOTALLY stripped and given the full weight reduction procedure. No seats, door panels, stereo, etc. If you did that to a blown CL-S it would be just as fast.

No disrespect but lets compare apples to apples here.

Still a fast fucking car.
This car is not totally stripped down, just the back seat removed. Front seats, door panels, stereo, A/C etc is all intact. In fact I just bought this car in March of this year.

It weighs just over 3k lbs.

btw the T/A was on slicks.
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Originally Posted by Jime
This car is not totally stripped down, just the back seat removed. Front seats, door panels, stereo, A/C etc is all intact. In fact I just bought this car in March of this year.

It weighs just over 3k lbs.

btw the T/A was on slicks.
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.

Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.

Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Jime
This car is not totally stripped down, just the back seat removed. Front seats, door panels, stereo, A/C etc is all intact. In fact I just bought this car in March of this year.

It weighs just over 3k lbs.

btw the T/A was on slicks.


very nice !!!!

congrats on one badass max
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.

Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
The only bullshit that needs to be called here is on your lack of correct information, AKA ignorance.

The A33 chassis Maxima weighs in at about 3225 pounds in stock form, NOT 3400. And it isn't difficult to get the vehicle weight down to about 3000 before driver.
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Ehhh I got all yah beat. My TL-S comes in weighing in at 4600 with me included!! Don't mess with a heavy weight. By the way....dats one fast ass maxima!!
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
The A33 chassis Maxima weighs in at about 3225 pounds in stock form, NOT 3400. And it isn't difficult to get the vehicle weight down to about 3000 before driver.


You should expect questioning, otherwise ignorance sure does fit.

Does the automatic transaxle weigh in at 3225?? If so (worse, if not), does the back seat weigh in at 225 lbs?? That is one hefty back seat!!

Point being, there is more to this than a basic bolt on vehicle. Alluding otherwise is childish. Nonetheless it is an impressive time and one that warrants congratulation. All of us V6 FWD guys should be proud of this achievement.

Anyway, I know I wouldn't pull an ET like that. But I am confident my full weight (nothing removed at all) CL-S would trap that high.
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I just weighed my 2k2 Auto Max @ Etown two weeks about. It weighed in at 3,220lbs w/o me and spare tire. NOTE: Englishtown Raceway Park scale.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
No way in hell a Maxima weighs just over 3,000 lbs with only the backseat removed. A stock Maxima weighs over 3400 pounds.

Are you telling me your backseat weighs 400 pounds? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
No one but YOU said it weighed just over 3k with just the rear seat removed. I didn't say there wasn't anymore weight reduction, I just said that it wasn't gutted and that the interior only had the rear seat removed.

The rear seat weighs about 65 lbs. The largest single reduction was in the tire/wheels which totals over 100 lbs. My stock wheels weight 54 lbs each the fronts I use at the track weigh 25 and the rears 23. If I can still add thats 120 lbs. The stuff in the trunk, ie jack, spare etc weighed over 50 lbs.

That totals 235 lbs. I said it weighed just over 3k and its does and its not gutted. It also has no exterior mods at all and it rides and sounds and looks like stock when my wife goes grocery shopping in it.

90% of the mods I have done are listed in the video, the rest really don't amount to much and aren't worth listing. I could list what fuel pump, filter, intake etc but that sort of stuff doesn't make much difference in performance and makes pretty boring reading.

Mods to date are just over $2k so I would say that was basic bolt-ons. The illuminas and headers were over $1000 plus the NX kit is pretty much the bulk of it.

PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Anyway, I know I wouldn't pull an ET like that. But I am confident my full weight (nothing removed at all) CL-S would trap that high.
don't sell yourself short steve.

i think you could do it on slicks.
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Originally Posted by Jime
PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
Very true!!

But some of us are making power not to win at the strip. But to explore the limits of the drivetrain. This requires engineering under the hood first and fore most.

But everyone has their own agenda. If I could launch worth a darn in this car I might make a goal to persue better ETs. But for now I will try and determine how we can make more power with the J32A2. That is the more desireble challenge for me.

The trap is the better indicator of power production.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Very true!!

But some of us are making power not to win at the strip. But to explore the limits of the drivetrain. This requires engineering under the hood first and fore most.

But everyone has their own agenda. If I could launch worth a darn in this car I might make a goal to persue better ETs. But for now I will try and determine how we can make more power with the J32A2. That is the more desireble challenge for me.

The trap is the better indicator of power production.
Anyone can make power, thats not the difficult part for me. However its the most expensive part.

The difficulty is putting it to the ground. That for the most part is not expensive, but its not easy either. I have taken many RWD cars and my Son has a 12.5 sec AWD DSM that still hasn't beaten my 60'. FWD cars can get great hole shots with the right setup.
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i'd like to try slicks, but i'm afraid i'll break my tranny. even so, i'm sure it won't be long before i try it anyway.


i did pull a 2.0 on my 225/40-18 street tires though.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Anyone can make power...
not the way he's doing it. scalbert is actually creating parts that didn't exhist before. the aftermarket support we have for the cl-s is a drop in the bucket compared to what you max guys have.

our cars are rare.
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Originally Posted by mattg
not the way he's doing it. scalbert is actually creating parts that didn't exhist before. the aftermarket support we have for the cl-s is a drop in the bucket compared to what you max guys have.

our cars are rare.
Not exactly. Our aftermarket support isn't as good as you imply. Sure the 350Z business is helping in the cams and engine internals department but other than that we have nothing else but bolt ons. We too have to create and adapt many of our own parts. That is how I am able to make 249 fwhp NA on this car without going into the engine, because I personally found a few power secrets and have done things that no one else has done.
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I also think it's stupid that the CL-S, Maxima and GTP guys don't all get along better. It is nice to have friendly rivalries but we should all try to stick together at some point. We all have different pieces of the puzzles and can help each other if we tried.
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it's still quite a bit more than what we have, for now. plus there are a hell of a lot more people out there modding maximas. more r&d = quicker cars for everyone.

we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.


my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I also think it's stupid that the CL-S, Maxima and GTP guys don't all get along better.
how are we not getting along?
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Originally Posted by mattg
how are we not getting along?
People calling BS on Jime and myself about our ETs, trap speeds and vehicle weights.
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Originally Posted by mattg
it's still quite a bit more than what we have, for now. plus there are a hell of a lot more people out there modding maximas. more r&d = quicker cars for everyone.

we're doing the same thing, it just takes longer because there aren't as many of us.


my car puts down 244whp n/a. if you didn't have that .3L advantage i would be putting down more than you.
At that time, you probably would have.

That was with my first prototype.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
People calling BS on Jime and myself about our ETs, trap speeds and vehicle weights.
they just wanted the missing pieces to the puzzle.


welcome to the internet.
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Originally Posted by mattg
they just wanted the missing pieces to the puzzle.


welcome to the internet.
Shouldn't you be just welcoming me to this forum? Are you certain that I haven't been using the internet etc. longer than you?
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wow. you need to loosen up and learn how to take a joke.
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Originally Posted by Jime
PS Traps speeds aren't what makes you win in the 1/4. The drag strip is about TIME. I have beaten many many cars that trap over 120.
We all know that. But trap speeds are a good indicator of what the car will do on the street.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
People calling BS on Jime and myself about our ETs, trap speeds and vehicle weights.

No one every questioned the ET or trap speed? How could we!?! We just saw it for ourselves on video. The only thing we questioned was the weight reduction performed. Why are you being so extremely defensive? Don't be so insecure dude. We all said you've got a fast car and said congrats on the time.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Anyone can make power, thats not the difficult part for me. However its the most expensive part.
Yes and no... Correct, it can be expensive or not depending on who came before you and did what. The difficult part is making power on a platform which is uncharted. That is not easy to do in a manner which does not include rebuilds.

Contrary to your point it could be said that running quick with little power increases through self development is easy. Just use what others have done, shed weight and run slicks. I know it is more difficult than that but neither should be made trivial.

In addition, a slush box makes it all the easier but less thrilling. :P
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Originally Posted by mattg
don't sell yourself short steve.

i think you could do it on slicks.
Maybe with my wife driving too.


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