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Old 10-01-2007, 08:04 PM
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So I went to the dealer today...

So my Dad wanted to lease a car for a friend, so he decides to get a Toyota. He goes to the dealership and sees the Rav4, so I come over to sign the lease agreement and to take the car home.

As I was signing the papers I saw their print out of how much money the dealer gets in profit from the sale, my eye wanders a lot and I was able to see it. On the print out is a list of the breakdown on the price of the vehicle, it shows how much markup they put on the vehicle, dealer charges (bullshit fees to gain them more profit), and then it had a total of their profit from the sale. Lmao on a Rav4 they markedup the price by 3,100.

The cost of the Rav4 is 19,000 before markup, they raised the price by 1/6th, well that didn't bother me because I wasn't at a positition to debate since my Credit Score was only 650 and I have a light credit report.

Anyway that doesn't matter, what matters is when I go see the car, it was complete crap. This car had 27 miles, and its paint is awful, it was black, and you could see so many swirl marks, it looks like someone dried the car off with a dirty towel. Every car we own has better looking paint, this car is not even a year old and it looks like ass crack. Not only that but I have no idea how any human can be comfortable sitting in the drivers seat, its cramped and the seating positions are very limited and hard to adjust.

For a payment of 370 a month over 5 years, I say I would pay the extra 200 dollars and get something a whole lot better. I want to take a trip to the dealer tomorrow and complain about the paint we'll see what they say.
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whoa whoa whoa.

1. You leased a car for someone else?
2. Please tell me $370 is not the lease price
3. You still can haggle the price of the car on a lease no matter what your credit score is
4. Why did you even take delivery of a car thats dirty
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Holy crap, I have some stained underwear that i can sell to you for $400.

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Holy crap, I have some stained underwear that i can sell to you for $400.
And on that note, I found a purse that was washed up on the beach recently. It had a $1200 price tag still on it...
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
whoa whoa whoa.

1. You leased a car for someone else?
2. Please tell me $370 is not the lease price
3. You still can haggle the price of the car on a lease no matter what your credit score is
4. Why did you even take delivery of a car thats dirty
5.
X 2 !!!
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Something is REALLY wrong about this thread!!!
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Well by the time I came to the dealer, terms and agreements were already established, besides with my weak credit there was very little wiggle room, we tried our best for a good deal, and its not that easy to make the dealer budge when they know how much you make.

The accounts of the story and explaining my fathers poor decision making, not mine and to say how piss poor Toyota Rav4s are,
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My Dad always does crap purchases, he did a lease on an '06 TL for 35,000 non navi, and that was in Nov. of '06 when the '07 models came out with the face lift. And of course his ass is to stubborn to listen to what I have to say, oh well.
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Dang, so you guys leased a rav4 for 5 years at $370 a month?!?!

Also im pretty sure your credit score has nothing to do with the purchase price of the car. You could have still haggled that part. Only thing you might not have had room to change is the money factor.

Live and learn i guess. You better hope your dads friend pays this lease on time for the next 5 years. Or YOUR credit is screwed.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
whoa whoa whoa.

1. You leased a car for someone else?
2. Please tell me $370 is not the lease price
3. You still can haggle the price of the car on a lease no matter what your credit score is
4. Why did you even take delivery of a car thats dirty
5.

Holy crap, I have some stained underwear that i can sell to you for $400.
1. Yes, as a gift, and to establish my credit.
2. The bank closed by the time I arrived to the dealer so I'm not sure what the final terms were, but the lease terms that I read were roughly $370 a month, but my Dad said it was $325, we'll see when/if the bank agrees to the loan.
3. Well I thought and was told that with a lease they are really hard to budge and its almost impossible to bring them down.
4. By the time I was given the keys they were just about ready to close, like I said I'll let them know about it in the morning.
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wow. shouldve bargained more on the lease. if they wouldnt budge then walk out, theres plenty of other toyota dealers out there.

and when i bought my first car my credit score was 690 and i still got a good finance rate.
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There are so many things wrong here. Eoanou, are you serious? You leased a car for your fathers friend to build up your credit? You could probably have had similar results by getting a department store credit card. Who is paying for the RAV4?

Credit score and income make no difference on the price of the car. Either you qualify for financing or you don't. Only difference would be the interest rate, not the price of the car.

and... you leased a $19,000 car for 5 years at $370/month? You should have been able to buy the car for less than that.
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Your dad leased a car for someone else?

Better hope those payments are made on time, otherwise you are screwed.
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT


There are so many things wrong here. Eoanou, are you serious? You leased a car for your fathers friend to build up your credit? You could probably have had similar results by getting a department store credit card. Who is paying for the RAV4?

Credit score and income make no difference on the price of the car. Either you qualify for financing or you don't. Only difference would be the interest rate, not the price of the car.

and... you leased a $19,000 car for 5 years at $370/month? You should have been able to buy the car for less than that.
Pretty much what I was gonna post. This whole thing is a recipe for a lot of headaches down the road. There are less risky ways to build credit, and if your dad wanted to give a friend a gift, his name should've been on the papers, not yours I guess the next 5 years will prove just how good a friend they are
My CL-S payment was less than that, and it wasn't a lease. Did you shop around for auto loan interest rates to compare?
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Pretty much what I was gonna post. This whole thing is a recipe for a lot of headaches down the road. There are less risky ways to build credit, and if your dad wanted to give a friend a gift, his name should've been on the papers, not yours I guess the next 5 years will prove just how good a friend they are
My CL-S payment was less than that, and it wasn't a lease. Did you shop around for auto loan interest rates to compare?
My guess is no.
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None of this story makes any sense. Just....wow.
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I hope he keeps the miles down too.
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Lets all just assume it wasnt a lease and it was a loan.

That way it wont be as stupid as it sounds.
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Who buys a dirty car?
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and... you leased a $19,000 car for 5 years at $370/month? You should have been able to buy the car for less than that.
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YOU ------> The Cleaners
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uhhh what?
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what?

Goto Acura dealer they have NEW RDX for 399.
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
Well by the time I came to the dealer, terms and agreements were already established, besides with my weak credit there was very little wiggle room, we tried our best for a good deal, and its not that easy to make the dealer budge when they know how much you make.

The accounts of the story and explaining my fathers poor decision making, not mine and to say how piss poor Toyota Rav4s are,
that is wut the scumbag salesmen tell you so u feel guilty about haggling. they can always tell who they can take advantage of and they certainly got you. as far as price, i pay $400 month for my TL that i bought. something is def wrong with your payments. my credit score was a 650 at the time.
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Originally Posted by Newplay1
uhhh what?
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what?

Goto Acura dealer they have NEW RDX for 399.
or wait a month and you can lease an infiniti m35 for 299/mo



wonder what happened to the OP
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This thread gets more crazy as it unfolds. No way this adds up.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
or wait a month and you can lease an infiniti m35 for 299/mo



wonder what happened to the OP

I can't lease myself since I do 40kmi or more a yr, but that seems unreal cheap!
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
or wait a month and you can lease an infiniti m35 for 299/mo



wonder what happened to the OP
no way...if so where?
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And on that note, I found a purse that was washed up on the beach recently. It had a $1200 price tag still on it...
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
no way...if so where?
they did last year when i was checking out the m35. basically giving away year end models so im assuming they will again this yr for the 07's when the 08's roll out
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
So my Dad wanted to lease a car for a friend, so he decides to get a Toyota. He goes to the dealership and sees the Rav4, so I come over to sign the lease agreement and to take the car home.

As I was signing the papers I saw their print out of how much money the dealer gets in profit from the sale, my eye wanders a lot and I was able to see it. On the print out is a list of the breakdown on the price of the vehicle, it shows how much markup they put on the vehicle, dealer charges (bullshit fees to gain them more profit), and then it had a total of their profit from the sale. Lmao on a Rav4 they markedup the price by 3,100.

The cost of the Rav4 is 19,000 before markup, they raised the price by 1/6th, well that didn't bother me because I wasn't at a positition to debate since my Credit Score was only 650 and I have a light credit report.

Anyway that doesn't matter, what matters is when I go see the car, it was complete crap. This car had 27 miles, and its paint is awful, it was black, and you could see so many swirl marks, it looks like someone dried the car off with a dirty towel. Every car we own has better looking paint, this car is not even a year old and it looks like ass crack. Not only that but I have no idea how any human can be comfortable sitting in the drivers seat, its cramped and the seating positions are very limited and hard to adjust.

For a payment of 370 a month over 5 years, I say I would pay the extra 200 dollars and get something a whole lot better. I want to take a trip to the dealer tomorrow and complain about the paint we'll see what they say.
Have to add insult to injury; RAV4 = chick car
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Have to add insult to injury; RAV4 = chick car


so is a TSX, but that hasn't stopped this board
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