DCyamaha

I dont know if this has been posted before or not, but did anyone see the new commercial for the saab 92x? that thing looks exactly like the new subaru legacy GT wagon. Except for the grill and headlights, I dont think you can tell a difference!!

dom

The 9-2X = Suburu Impreza actually.

fdl

the Saab 9-2 is a subaru WRX with a saab badge and new clothes.

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The legacy GT wagon will be completely different.

DCyamaha

92x is a rebadged suby? haha ha ha

dom

Not nessesararly. There is a version of the 9-2 that has the 2.5L non turbo boxer engine from the base Impreza as well.

9-2X = Impreza

DCyamaha

i wonder how many poor souls will pay for the 92x not realizing they can have the exact same thing from suby for cheaper (and cheaper insurance).

ABP-CL9-TSX

Personally, I think the 9-2x looks better than the similar WRX. The rear I think looks nicer on the Saab version, but I still wouldn't get one.

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The damn thing is way too overpriced. With a couple of basic options, it costs more than the TSX. It doesn't have auto climate control, it uses cheap plastic, it doesn't exactly provide a quality feel, and the whole driving experience is no better than a WRX. Why bother?

majormojo

C&D called the 9-2X a "Saabaru".

http://www.caranddriver.com/default....2X&agYear=2005

jcg878

Way overpriced. If it was a Saab that was a little bit nicer and a little bit more $$ than a WRX, I'd like it. Instead, it's a little bit nicers and WAY more $$ than a WRX.

It does look better though.

fdl

the current 9-2 is just something to fill a void temporarily for Saab. If it does OK you will see a 100% saab version. kinda like what acura did with their SUV.

sipark

Isn't Saab coming up with an SUV based on GM platform?
What's with Saab these days?

gfxdave99

It looks better, and all.. however A simarly equipped WRX (non sti) vs the saab is about $4000 less then the saab..

Sure it has a prettier nose, but thats an expensive ass body kit

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Yup. Saab 9-7X based on the Trailblazer platform.

As for what is with them, they are now a wholly owned subsidiary of GM. And GMs ties to Subaru allowed for the 9-2X to happen.

NeoChaser

i think a lot of thme knows...

i think ti's about 2k more here in canada...

for 2k, u get hids, 6 cd... blalal i forgot the exact extras cause a friend
of mine was trying to conveince me to liking the 92x (which i still don't)
and when he listed all the extra features, it made it sound worth the
2k more.

gfxdave99

http://www.saabusa.com/saabjsp/97x/index.jsp

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on that GM parts bin shifter. That needs to go. And the steering wheel is another GM parts bin piece that just looks out of place.

DEI99662

ABP-CL9-TSX

typical GM rebadging technique....They have so many vehicles being built off the Trailblazer platform its not even funny....here are a few....Chevy Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainer, Isuzu Ascender, and the late Olds Bravada. Now this Saab 9-7x, they say that the handling will be sporty and stuff, but how so? I think it will drive just like another one of those SUVs listed.

The dashboard looks unique though....

gfxdave99

Uhhh same dash (if you mean the gauges) the only thing different is the way the column looks.

Isuzu Ass-ender




Buick Raindeer




GMC Convoy (can you tell im murduring the names yet)




Chevy ShirtAndBlazer




Saab ninetysevenx




And the oldsmobile



Not similar at all..

ianS

I am afraid GM are going to ruin up Subaru image by link it to the POS Saab

gfxdave99

I think the saab looks the best out of all of them.

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Which isn't saying much.

sipark

This thread morphed into a Saab SUV discussion...


EDIT: eh.. maybe not..

ABP-CL9-TSX

Junkster

wow, the thread starter is the biggest noob I've seen in a long time... Legacy GT?! Ya blind?

hehe... rebadging is teh :ghey:

Junkster, who really wants a Jag SUV

SPUDMTN

Rebadging vehicles is not going to help boost Saab sales. Saabs are attractive because of their quirkiness, and to start slapping Saab badges on hardly modified existing products is total crap. These vehicles are just going to make spiral down faster.

I want to see some new, Saab original designs. That would do more good. Saab has been making some beautiful products lately--the 9-5, 9-3 (though not fully Saab...close enough). GM just needs to give Saab the go ahead to make a unique new product. People want Saabs because they're Saabs (DUH!)

As Acura showed with the SLX, it's better to wait longer to put an original design out than simply rebadge another vehicle.

SPUDMTN

A Jag SUV? That is what Land Rover is for.

IMHO, a Jag SUV is a paradox. Jaguars are sleek, super stylish performance machines. An SUV is too...what is it?...American. Bulky, awkward, and non-performance oriented.

Now Jaguar had a great chance to make an ultra sexy wagon, but it looks like Ford designers mauled the concept when they designed the X-type Estate.

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Say what you will, but even Porsche jumped on the SUV bandwagon so you never know.

Junkster

If BMW and Porsche have performance oriented SUVs for the road, why not Jags?

Junkster, who just thinks the Jag look would be good on an SUV

Bananaairsoft

I dont blame GM trying to help Saab by selling a rebadge great car(WRX)! Sometime you just have to sell cars because you have to! (ie. making money) In order to make the cars you want to make. ( real Saab turbo FWD cars with soul! ) As per The Donald: It's all business baby! LOL!

eidji

Wow, and people complain the TSX and TL are just rebadged Accords. Those poor GM platform-mates look nearly identical in every way. I assumed they would at least change up the look just a little. Even Ford isn't this lazy with their rebadging of Mercury (sorta) and Lincoln (esp). These trucks use the same instrument cluster, steering wheel, and shift boot! HELLO, GM, could you get any more pathetic. First it was just 3 or 4 makes with the same vehicle and different badges. Now what is it, like 6 or 7?

gfxdave99

For the envoy/trailblazer etc it was 6 but now that Oldsmobile is RIP its 5..

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People don't seem to understand the concept of platform sharing, which Honda pulls off pretty well, using the same platform for the Accord and TL. GM does a great job of platform sharing when it comes to the cars (9-3 epsilon platform shared with G6 and Malibu), but when it comes to the trucks, GM really does get and slap a different badge on what is essentially the same vehicle. It really irks me quite a bit that the chevy trucks and the GMC trucks look almost completely identical.

gfxdave99

Well at least Caddilac decided to make their own midsize suv. (even if its based on the CTS platform)

heyitsme

Think the issue is a non luxury brand sharing platforms with a luxury brand. If you look at the camry, it shares from the high end down, not the camry up.

lokman

I wish GM were a bit more original with their badge engineering, though the 9-2X doesn't look too bad (unlike the SUVs noted above). I read in a few places that if you want a slightly better Impreza, the 9-2X is actually not a bad choice for the few extra G's (though it doesn't hold a candle to the TSX).

Unfortunately, the small players like Jag and Saab were having problems long before Ford and GM bought them out. If the big guys weren't there, we probably wouldn't have a lot of the smaller nameplates today, and while not every model is a home run (Jag X-Type/Contour, Saab 9-7), it's almost a necessary evil as almost all automakers are forced to offer a full lineup for each brand to pull buyers and profits in. I long for the days when an automaker didn't have to be all things to all people.

As a final thought, platform sharing is a good thing, but blatant badge engineering is not. I think Ford actually does better at this than GM with their premium vehicles group (although Ford has yet to get them to turn a decent profit), something that I think will come back to bite GM yet.

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The Lexus ES300 shares the Camry platform. The Highlander also shares the Camry platform. It's the same philosophy. Use a common platform to build a variety of cars to save money. Everyone does it, but it's a matter of how well they differentiate the exterior look. The new TL and USDM Accord share a platform, but look so different, you'd have a hard time knowing that the two are built off the same platform with just a cursory glance. The Camry and the ES300, on the other hand, definitely share some similarities in appearance.

jcg878

heyitsme, you don't make sense