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Old 07-12-2005, 02:31 PM
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race NSX vs. Enzo @ Hockenheim 2005 in-car vid & pics

holy.... gives you an idea of how fast the Enzo is.... damn. especially towards the middle-end of the video.... damn. just damn. but the NSX hangs with it pretty well in the turns.

also look at the chain hanging from the rear-view mirror... gives you an idea of the g's...

http://www.fastvoice.de/NSX_Enzo.mov

full story and pics here:

http://www.fastvoice.de/Hockenheim2005.html
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HOLY CRAP!!
That Enzo is pulling away like the NSX-R is standing still!!

I knew it was crazy fast, but that's insane!
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sheeeit!

And that NSX was no slouch!
Enzo hauls some ass.
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Originally Posted by erok72
HOLY CRAP!!
That Enzo is pulling away like the NSX-R is standing still!!

I knew it was crazy fast, but that's insane!
i think that's a regular nsx. if that japanese old man drive the white nsx-r vs. this enzo then it'll be a better match. of course an nsx-r still can't beat an enzo.
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yea I was gonna say... it's not an NSX-R.

"japanese old man"... lol. aka Gan-San.
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man...considering the price difference between an enzo and NSX... i would say NSX is still hell of a car NA v6 all the way
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Just comparing a V6 280hp car to a V12 660hp is making the NSX one hell of a car.
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I have a feeling that NSX is pretty modded (hence the title race NSX), so it may not be representative of a NSX off the street.
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
I have a feeling that NSX is pretty modded (hence the title race NSX), so it may not be representative of a NSX off the street.

Yes, the NSX appears to be modded. Also the Enzo driver doesnt seem to know how to drive very well

I`d love to see the driver of the NSX in the Enzo.
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agreed on all counts... the NSX is definitely not stock, and as is usually the case, the owners of the crazy cars aren't going all out... probably half out of lack of driver skill and half out of anxiousness of wrecking and/or breaking something.
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Thumbs up Thanks for watching!

Hi to all - I just saw in my website statistics that some of you watched my site and therefor I visited your forum. I'm pretty glad that you like the site and movie.

Regarding the car: It is a '98 cp. NSX (not R of course because there are no LHD R models AFAIK) - more about the mods is here .

Regarding the special situation at that day in Hockenheim: The car was not in it's best form. I had some serious overheating issues (described in the text) which now seems to be resolved. And also now I know after some dyno days and a lot of work by my techie that the engine had not it's expected power because of a failure in the Vtec system. At that day I only had about 270 PS - at the latest dyno run last week I had 306 (should be around 310 under real life conditions at the track with sufficient fresh air).

So the next time I will encounter an Enzo the difference on the straights would be a little less dramatic I guess. Of course the performance in the corner will only be about equal when I run on race slicks while the Enzo is on street legal tires (which it was in the movie).

BTW: I doubt that Gan San (the old japanese) would be significantly faster at Hockenheim GP with my car - my best laptime from last year was under 2 minutes (without the power lack I had this year) which is hard to beat because I know the track quite well after more than 100 laps. Okay - he may find another 2 seconds or so after a while
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Nice video. I do wish the camera was in that white 911 that appears towards the end. That seemed to be pulling some serious lap times.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Nice video. I do wish the camera was in that white 911 that appears towards the end. That seemed to be pulling some serious lap times.
Yes, these GT 3 cup cars run about 1:50s which is about 10 seconds faster than me.
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Great vid, the NSX handles like a dream.
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Originally Posted by NSX-Racer
Hi to all - I just saw in my website statistics that some of you watched my site and therefor I visited your forum. I'm pretty glad that you like the site and movie.

Regarding the car: It is a '98 cp. NSX (not R of course because there are no LHD R models AFAIK) - more about the mods is here .

Regarding the special situation at that day in Hockenheim: The car was not in it's best form. I had some serious overheating issues (described in the text) which now seems to be resolved. And also now I know after some dyno days and a lot of work by my techie that the engine had not it's expected power because of a failure in the Vtec system. At that day I only had about 270 PS - at the latest dyno run last week I had 306 (should be around 310 under real life conditions at the track with sufficient fresh air).

So the next time I will encounter an Enzo the difference on the straights would be a little less dramatic I guess. Of course the performance in the corner will only be about equal when I run on race slicks while the Enzo is on street legal tires (which it was in the movie).

BTW: I doubt that Gan San (the old japanese) would be significantly faster at Hockenheim GP with my car - my best laptime from last year was under 2 minutes (without the power lack I had this year) which is hard to beat because I know the track quite well after more than 100 laps. Okay - he may find another 2 seconds or so after a while
Thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by fdl
Thanks for the info
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That's awesome, if the NSX was super charged and able to maintain high temps on boost while racing, the enzo would have been wasted.
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Originally Posted by NSX-Racer
So the next time I will encounter an Enzo the difference on the straights would be a little less dramatic I guess. Of course the performance in the corner will only be about equal when I run on race slicks while the Enzo is on street legal tires (which it was in the movie).
wow - always great to hear first-hand testimony. hey - the Enzo has more than 3x the power of your car and about the same weight!! I would not expect you to keep up with it in the straights.

...I know the track quite well after more than 100 laps.
I can tell!!! nice driving!!

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Nice video. Obviously the enzo is going to pull on the NSX in the straights since its got more twice as many cylinders and twice the horsepower. Was surprised how well it handled compared to the ENZO.
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Originally Posted by srika
hey - the Enzo has more than 3x the power of your car and about the same weight!!
Thanks for your heads up but it's not that dramatic: 3x the power of my car would be 918 PS now
And my stripped track rat is about 140 kilogramms lighter than the Enzo (1230 kg w/o driver with full tank vs. 1370 kg). Too bad that the driver of the NSX was much heavier than the driver of the Enzo!
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Originally Posted by VTEC11
Nice video. Obviously the enzo is going to pull on the NSX in the straights since its got more twice as many cylinders and twice the horsepower. Was surprised how well it handled compared to the ENZO.

Dont forget the NSX had slicks (and probably a better driver).
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Originally Posted by NSX-Racer
Thanks for your heads up but it's not that dramatic: 3x the power of my car would be 918 PS now
And my stripped track rat is about 140 kilogramms lighter than the Enzo (1230 kg w/o driver with full tank vs. 1370 kg). Too bad that the driver of the NSX was much heavier than the driver of the Enzo!
did I say 3x? oops - I meant more than 2x :P
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Originally Posted by NSX-Racer
Hi to all - I just saw in my website statistics that some of you watched my site and therefor I visited your forum. I'm pretty glad that you like the site and movie.

Regarding the car: It is a '98 cp. NSX (not R of course because there are no LHD R models AFAIK) - more about the mods is here .

Regarding the special situation at that day in Hockenheim: The car was not in it's best form. I had some serious overheating issues (described in the text) which now seems to be resolved. And also now I know after some dyno days and a lot of work by my techie that the engine had not it's expected power because of a failure in the Vtec system. At that day I only had about 270 PS - at the latest dyno run last week I had 306 (should be around 310 under real life conditions at the track with sufficient fresh air).

So the next time I will encounter an Enzo the difference on the straights would be a little less dramatic I guess. Of course the performance in the corner will only be about equal when I run on race slicks while the Enzo is on street legal tires (which it was in the movie).

BTW: I doubt that Gan San (the old japanese) would be significantly faster at Hockenheim GP with my car - my best laptime from last year was under 2 minutes (without the power lack I had this year) which is hard to beat because I know the track quite well after more than 100 laps. Okay - he may find another 2 seconds or so after a while
Just wanted to say you have a great car and in the video your driving skills are excellent
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NSX-racer how about you get yourself some FI? turbo or S/C? that would be quite interesting

sick car man!! props on your skilled driving as well, i would like to see you drive with some more power under the hood... just for kicks
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Originally Posted by mantis23
sheeeit!

And that NSX was no slouch!
Enzo hauls some ass.
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Thanks for all your acknowledgement. I have no plans to go the F/I way because I don't want to stress the engine too much (it already has about 130,000 kilometers, including over 15,000 on different tracks). My philosophy is to have a light car with good handling and controllable power but without supercar maintainance costs.

If someone is interested: I have a longer video from the Hockenheim day (90.8 MB) where I edited parts of different stints. This vid had been hosted by a member of NSXPrime.com (where I usualy post) but was removed. My webspace isn't big enough to maintain all the vids (you may have seen there are also other ones from the Nuerburgring GP track) but if a member here has some free space and bandwidth I could upload it.

Just mail your ftp data to wm(at)fastvoice.de if you're willing to host that QT video (edited with iMovie HD and converted to a reasonable mp3 file size).
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great video and great driving! always love to see someone using the car the way honda intended it!
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yeah.. definitely don't want aftermarket FI for race applications - esp on a car like the NSX, which is hyper-tuned as is. Same goes for the S2000, BMW S54, and other high-output NA vehicles... these cars are already wringing out the limits of their engines, adding FI may result in short-term satisfaction but in terms of longevity, you're asking for trouble.
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NSX-Racer, where can I see more pictures of your NSX? I love the avatar you have there and would like to see more.
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Originally Posted by tonio
NSX-Racer, where can I see more pictures of your NSX? I love the avatar you have there and would like to see more.
Just click on my site .

BTW: Still noone who could host a larger video? Due to the overwhelming response I'm even in danger to exceed my traffic volume this month so I may have to remove the exisiting videos.
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oops..... since I posted this - and because I have a new hosting solution - I will host the larger video for you. I will PM you with FTP info.
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Originally Posted by srika
oops..... since I posted this - and because I have a new hosting solution - I will host the larger video for you. I will PM you with FTP info.
Thanks to srika you can now watch the longer movie from Hockenheim - I tried to edit some kind of logical sequence out of different stints, from leaving the pitlane to returning to the gas station through the "Fahrerlager". 90MB QT video should be
here - no music, no gimmicks, just driving.

Thanks again, srika
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Wilkommen NSX Racer, glad to have you here!

Maybe it's about time AcuraZine starts it's NSX section...

Your skills are very impressive, you have a great car! Please continue to share your stories with us. I am also available to host videos for you anytime, just contact me thru the site.

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Short Video removed

Thanks Astroboy - little info: Due to the overwhelming response from members of this site and some others I already exceeded the free traffic volume this month for my site. Therefor I removed the short "Enzo-video" but you can still access the long Hockenheim movie hosted by srika.

I already tried to contact my provider to get more webspace and traffic volume but have no answer yet.
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website moved but same URL

Another update: Due to the overwhelming response of a lot of new visitors to this site that exceeded my free traffic volume and the lack of webspace I had to take quick action and moved the whole site to a larger server space. I apologize for the downtime that occured during moving the pages and files.

Now everything should work out fine again and all previous movies (some of them were removed due to the lack of webspace) are also back again.
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wow - if I can help with any other hosting, let me know.
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