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rockstar143 10-23-2019 08:22 AM

@dwb993 Thanks for the encouragement Dave...
I already had an Alpine and DCI which is kind of what's pushing
me in that direction since I'm halfway there. Spare tire sub and a
small amp might be just what the Dr ordered.

Ken1997TL 10-23-2019 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by TylerT (Post 16493408)
I always felt a sound system in the S2000 was ... unnecessary.

There's little to 0 sound deadening / refinement, buzzes and rattles everywhere in the car ... razor thin soft top .. I just didn't see the point.

My car came with a sub and slightly aftermarket door speakers - wasn't impressed and ultimately ditched it because I didn't want the extra weight :teef:

It depends :shrug:

I have an '06, so it has the roll hoop speakers standard which makes a big difference. I've added sound deadening to the doors, floors and trunk. And I have a Robbins double-weave cloth top.

Is it quiet? No, but I can actually hear and appreciate music top up or down :)

So long story short, it can be done.

CLtotheTL32 10-24-2019 06:15 AM

I wish I had headrest or roll-hoop speakers :bored:

dwb993 10-24-2019 06:50 AM

My wife has headrest speakers in the new Miata. I've noticed they don't really function with music, but come alive during phone calls. Most likely working as designed. Newfangled technology! Grrrr.

rockstar143 10-24-2019 07:16 AM

I considered them in my last S2000 but I like the open mesh look of the 04...
I actually bought another set of door speakers off ebay and put them in
behind my seat in that panel that unscrews. It added something but
pointing sound at the back of a hard seat obviously isn't ideal. :rofl:

dwb993 11-21-2019 10:53 AM

During my last inspection I was told my rear brakes are ready for replacement soon. I am running OEM and have not changed them since I bought the car 4 years ago, so Im thinking I should do front and rears. I do not track the car, nor do I autocross--although I have been thinking about doing an HPDE with it this upcoming year. Anything that happens after that will be dealt with then.

For now, I am thinking about replacing pads, rotors, fluid and lines. Ive been looking on S2KI, but most of the opinions on there relate to racing pads. Other than OEM, have any of you used other brands of pads/rotors that do not dust too much and that you can recommend? I will use Motul fluid (maybe ATE) and get some stainless lines.

Suggestions?

rockstar143 11-21-2019 11:02 AM

I have akebono ceramics on the audi and s2000 and love the dusting or lack thereof...
get em hot and they fade though...

SamDoe1 11-21-2019 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 16508376)
I have akebono ceramics on the audi and s2000 and love the dusting or lack thereof...
get em hot and they fade though...

I used these on my car too, they worked well enough.

If you're not tracking or racing the car, new stainless lines won't do anything for you.

thoiboi 11-21-2019 02:00 PM

cool factor :toocool:

rockstar143 11-21-2019 06:24 PM

oem king has spoken!

dwb993 11-22-2019 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by SamDoe1 (Post 16508449)
If you're not tracking or racing the car, new stainless lines won't do anything for you.

The lines are 20 years old. Wouldn't replacing them just be a peace of mind thing? And if I am replacing them, why not go stainless?

cu2wagon 11-22-2019 08:47 AM

OEM rubber lines lasted 20 years. If you don't "need" stainless wrapped lines, why get them?

But if you're not exactly on a budget and can afford them, and like the bling factor, sure, why not. The amortized cost over the next 20 years is probably negligible.


dwb993 11-22-2019 10:35 AM

Fair enough. Thanks!

SamDoe1 11-22-2019 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 16508609)
oem king has spoken!

Nothing to do with OEM or not, it's just like adding drilled rotors to a street car or a CAI to a modern motor, just won't make a difference.


Originally Posted by dwb993 (Post 16508795)
The lines are 20 years old. Wouldn't replacing them just be a peace of mind thing? And if I am replacing them, why not go stainless?

Not really, brake lines are much like fuel lines in that they don't really "wear out" per se. They are subject to pretty normal loads and no abrasion or anything and, at least on a S2000, don't really get all that much flex/fatigue. If you're not tracking the car, they aren't even subject to high heat situations. I'd just get under there and see what condition they're in and, if fine, leave them alone. The majority of the brake line isn't even flexible, it's a metal tube. The only flexible bit is where it comes out of the wheel liner to the caliper.

If you really want to do it then go nuts, not going to stop you lol. Just wanted to level set expectations on the "upgrade" to the lines. They'll look cool and all but they won't provide a tangible performance benefit is all.

Ken1997TL 11-22-2019 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 16508376)
I have akebono ceramics on the audi and s2000 and love the dusting or lack thereof...
get em hot and they fade though...

I have those as well. I don't like the feel of them though. They simply don't "bite" as hard. :shrug:

Aman 11-22-2019 04:52 PM

I always thought stainless lines were more for the improved brake feel than any performance advantage.

CLtotheTL32 11-23-2019 10:10 AM

I'll be due for new brake pads next service too :bored: I'm just going OEM :shrug:

I just hit 140k this past week, btw :)

rockstar143 11-23-2019 05:47 PM

@Ken1997TL I totally agree about the bite...
but the trade off was the total and complete lack of
dust.
On the Audi the oem ones would make the wheel
dirty after a trip to the store after a wash.

Ken1997TL 11-24-2019 05:22 PM

Yep, they have never made a spec of dust. And for the street, they're perfectly fine.

00TL-P3.2 02-27-2020 09:40 AM

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/26/...oration-parts/



The S2000's long-rumored successor is nowhere to be found. Instead, Honda is helping owners keep their aging drop-tops on the road by relaunching production of hard-to-find parts. And it's inviting enthusiasts to chime in.

Manufactured from 1999 to 2009, the S2000 became an instant classic that remains highly sought-after even a decade after it retired. The earliest examples are old enough to drink, and finding parts is becoming increasingly difficult because they don't regularly appear in junkyards, so Honda hopes to make maintaining — and, soon enough, restoring — an S2000 a breeze by offering a selection of factory-built parts through its dealer network.

It announced the program on its Japanese website, but it didn't mention which components it will make available. That's because it hasn't decided yet; it's asking enthusiasts to help it put together its parts catalog. It wants S2000 owners to reach out on various social media platforms with a list of the parts they want to see reproduced, the ones that need to remain in production in the foreseeable future, and the ones that have no aftermarket support.

Honda will take submissions until April 30, according to Motor Trend, and it will publish its S2000 parts catalog the following month. Sales in Japan will begin in June 2020. Autoblog asked if American enthusiasts will be able to order parts, too, or if they should fill their yard with a herd of parts cars, and we'll update this story if we learn more.

It's taken decades, but cars from the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s are finally reappearing on the radar of the companies that made them. Toyota recently announced it will manufacture a small selection of parts for the third- and fourth-generation variants of the Supra, while Mopar sells heritage parts for the Lancia Delta Integrale. Mazda launched a restoration service for the first-generation Miata in 2017, and it delivered the first finished car the following year.

thoiboi 02-27-2020 09:51 AM

@TylerT time to buy overnight parts from Japan! :zoom:

TylerT 02-27-2020 10:06 AM

:suite:

I will be able to post in this thread again soon ...

:ninja:

thoiboi 02-27-2020 10:07 AM

You don't need a s2k to post in here


Exhibit A: <

TylerT 02-27-2020 10:11 AM

Oh .... right.

So, when are you getting one again? :scratch:

thoiboi 02-27-2020 10:14 AM

:hide:

rockstar143 02-27-2020 10:53 AM

hustle ma duke for a profit from a friend sale.
i like his style. dirty.

00TL-P3.2 02-28-2020 09:46 AM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...retrospective/



Every great Japanese sportscar carries a legacy. The Toyota 2000GT proved that an emerging automaking nation could take on the world. The Datsun 240Z brought performance to the everyman. The original Miata resurrected the lost joy of lightweight, open-topped motoring. As it turns 20 this year, what lessons does the Honda S2000 leave behind?

This particular example is a 2008 CR model belonging to Alex Soo of Vancouver, who also has a standard S2000 he purchased more than a decade ago. The CR designation stands for Club Racer, and this is the most hardcore variant of the S2000 sold in the US. However, though it wears numbers on the upper left of its windshield, fresh from a session at the Ridge, this car is not purely a track rat.

Nor is it a garage queen. Soo regularly participates in local club events, including an annual drive to Mount Baker, and runs up through the tunnels of the Fraser Canyon in BC. Gaze closely at the paintwork on the nose of this dagger-like little roadster, and you'll find the tell-tale pitting of a car that is loved, but also used.

This January, at the Tokyo Auto Salon, Honda paid tribute to both the S2000 and owners like Soo with an updated early car it dubbed the 20th Anniversary S2000 prototype. Prepared by Honda Access, the company's parts and accessories division, this S2000 benefited from new bodywork with claimed genuine aerodynamic benefits, a retuned suspension, 17 inch staggered fitment wheels, and an upgraded audio system.

All these parts will be available to S2000 owners looking to refresh their car for years to come. As with Mazda and their MX-5 restoration catalogue, and Nissan and their Skyline heritage parts, Honda is honouring a hero from its past.

The sad part about this tribute is, unfortunately, that it's probably an admission that Honda will never build something like the S2000 again. This car may be labelled a prototype, but there's nothing to suggest that anything new is in the pipeline. In fact, if you look at Honda's current lineup, largely reliant on turbocharging and shared platform manufacturing, the company's products seem to be moving further away from the high-revving heritage that inspired the S2000 in the first place.

Last year, I was lucky enough to sample some of that original screaming intensity by way of a very rare Canadian-market 1966 Honda S600. The company's anniversary in the US began in 1969 with the proto-Civic Honda N600, but a few S600s made their way to Canada first via a handful of motorcycle dealerships.

The S600 is a tiny car crammed with every idea Soichiro Honda could dream up. It has a quad-carbureted, 606cc engine that features double overhead cams, makes 57hp at 8500 rpm, and redlines at over 10,000 rpm. Keeping the thing tuned properly is ordinarily a nightmare, but owner Mike Gane is a retired electrical engineer with the kind of mind that welcomes mechanical challenges. Naturally, he also owns an S2000.

The frenetic little S600 is something of a cross between a hummingbird and a rollerskate. It flits across the landscape in a fury of engine revolutions, not exactly speedy, but poised on its fully independent suspension, and pivoting on its skinny tires.

This effervescence was the spirit Honda's engineers wanted to recapture for the company's 50th anniversary. A concept from 1995 already existed, the Sport Study Concept (SSM), designed in partnership with Pininfarina. The concept took the conventional front-engined, rear-wheel-drive layout of Honda's ancestral S-cars, and mixed in a five-speed automatic gearbox taken from the NSX, and a five-cylinder, 20-valve engine that spun to a projected 8000 rpm.

The production S2000 that launched four years later made the SSM look unambitious. The styling had been refined by Honda designer Daisuke Sawai into a classic and angular shape that continues to age gracefully. The headlines, however, were all about that powertrain.

The first generation of S2000, called the AP1 internally and by Honda fans, received a 2.0L four-cylinder engine that was tucked entirely behind the front axle. It produced a peak of 240 hp at 8300 rpm, with the redline set at 9000 rpm. At the time, and to this day, the S2000 could boast the highest naturally aspirated power output per displacement of any production car.

The all-aluminum block was sleeved with fibre-reinforced metal, and the piston skirts were molybdenum-coated for friction reduction. At full scream, those forged-aluminum pistons are moving through their 84mm stroke at 25m/s, speeds that approach the internals of a Formula One car.

Honda's bulletproof VTEC dual-camshaft profile system worked on both the exhaust and intake to allow for exceptional breathing at higher rpms. The car is tractable but not particularly special below 5000 rpm, but changes completely as the revs climb.

Paired with this jewel of a four-cylinder was probably the finest manual transmission built by Honda, and thus one of the best gearboxes ever. The cliche is to praise the S2000's rifle-bolt shifter precision, but in actuality it's both more surgical and more satisfying.

That's handy, because with just 153 lb-ft of torque on offer, the S2000 demands to be thrashed into the stratosphere just to feel special. Which it loves. The engine and gearbox are Honda at its best, proper race-derived engineering in a road car. Even Fernando Alonso would have to grin at the sound as the S2000's digital tach spikes red.

As for the S2000's chassis, there were a few teething issues. Some owners complained of twitchy handling, particularly a sensitivity to mid-corner bumps. Setting an early S2000's alignment to European specifications is also supposed to tame the handling somewhat.

Further, the lack of torque required a frenzied driving style that wasn't suited to a casual Honda fan. The later model, the AP2, received a four-cylinder with increased displacement to 2.2L for 9 lb-ft more torque, with the same horsepower peak now at 7800 rpm. The suspension was also retuned for more compliance.

But overall, it wasn't that the S2000 was flawed as much as it was highly sensitive to inputs and a bit demanding. The early cars especially didn't flatter novice drivers. The later ones have a more approachable limit, but still require skilled hands to get the most out of them.

Contrast this high-revving scalpel with Honda's current performance banner carrier, the Civic Type R. The S2000 is classically styled, demands a bit of respect, and exists to shred air molecules with Swiss watch precision. The Type R huffs boost and is cheat-code fast in almost anyone's hands. Also, while I like the R, it does look like it should come with a Brian Earl Spilner commemorative vape pen.

Over the decade that it was built, some 66,547 S2000s found homes in the US. It was roundly outsold by competitors like the Porsche Boxster, although these days the S2000 has the last laugh by having the better resale. After all, who wouldn't rather maintain an old Honda instead of an old water-cooled Porsche?

The S2000 wasn't for everybody. It's still not for everybody. You have to be something of a dyed-in-the-wool Honda enthusiast like Soo and his fellow club members. Or at least you have to be able to appreciate what a special machine the S2000 was, arriving when it did.

Consider that, in 1999, nearly all the giants of Japan were dead. The Toyota Supra, the Mazda RX-7, and the 3000GT had all exited the market, and the NSX was hardly as exciting as it had been a decade earlier. But here was Honda, flying in the face of reason with a car that boasted insane rev limits and a naturally-aspirated outputs that perhaps only Ferrari could match. The S2000 picked up the torch dropped by the titans of the bubble economy, and carried it forward.

A car like the S2000 isn't likely to happen again. But rejoice that it did, and that it can still take its place proudly alongside some of the most rewarding sports cars produced by Japan. Owners understand this. Judging from their new accessories catalogue, so does Honda. Did you really think it was time to write the S2000 off as merely a historical footnote?
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thoiboi 02-28-2020 09:56 AM

crooked license plate on tow hooks :annoyed:

thoiboi 02-28-2020 09:57 AM

or is it my eyes that are crooked :rice:

cu2wagon 02-28-2020 10:09 AM

It flows with the bumper body line, Boomer.

thoiboi 02-28-2020 10:34 AM

:tomato:


fucking noobs :rolleyes:

00TL-P3.2 02-28-2020 11:01 AM

Crooked, but also appears to follow the line from the bottom of the headlight.

CLtotheTL32 02-28-2020 08:12 PM

:haha: @ states that require front plates

rockstar143 02-29-2020 04:33 PM

yeah.

TylerT 05-26-2020 09:03 AM

I'm back in :).

'04 Silverstone w/ red & black interior, 84,000 miles. Has some cosmetic issues such as light hail damage on the trunk & hood w/ light surface rust but otherwise, mechanically sound with all services done (All fluids changed, valve adjustment, oil change, etc) within the last 10k miles. Also, interior is totally mint ...

Little back story:

My mom picked this car up from her best friend after her husband passed away. Car traveled by truck all the way from New Jersey and my mom took ownership about 6 years ago. Mostly sitting in the garage, it was only driven 12k miles since then.

To make a long story short, my mom doesn't drive it much anymore and she wanted to gift the car to me for a price I couldn't turn down ... she's helping my sister with a small lump sum for a piece of property and wanted to return the favor to me.

Honestly, taking a car like this feels a bit off ... every car / modification / whatever I've worked for so I'm still getting a bit used to the feeling.

The deal I made with her was - if for whatever reason she needed any kind of money .. I would sell the car in the drop of a hat and give her the cash back ... I would simply maintain / restore / enjoy it during my ownership. Oh ... and, autocross it ... repeatedly :teef:

Leaving it 100% factory and enjoying it ... car is a fucking riot.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...bc01c23d36.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...9bdffe3278.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...3a88ee3f76.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...3cae20115a.jpg

and yes .. it makes it in and out of the driveway NO problem :rofl:.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...c0b30a33a9.jpg

Any guesses on the new plate name?


Costco 05-26-2020 09:15 AM

wow, lucky bastard! Enjoy it in good health! Looks very well taken care of.

Also kind of crazy that your mom drove an S2000. The thought of my mom driving anything manual, let alone an S2000 is beyond comprehension. Respect.

I have seen a middle aged lady driving a Phoenix Yellow ITR around, from time to time. Hard to miss that.


Originally Posted by thoiboi (Post 16543658)
or is it my eyes that are crooked :rice:

Reminds me of one of the best roasts a coworker did. Said to me, "don't slant your eyes at me" :tomato: :rofl:

SamDoe1 05-26-2020 09:18 AM

Congrats Tyler! Looks awesome, love that interior!

00TL-P3.2 05-26-2020 09:24 AM

:cheers:
The Red/Black is much better than the all red interior, IMO.

rockstar143 05-26-2020 09:27 AM

btw...
i never realized yours moms was silverstone with that interior...that is hot fucking sex and low mileage.

plot twist...mom says she needs it back after you throw on the voltex wing, ohlins and r triple 8s :tomato:

TylerT 05-26-2020 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Costco (Post 16580270)
wow, lucky bastard! Enjoy it in good health! Looks very well taken care of.

Also kind of crazy that your mom drove an S2000. The thought of my mom driving anything manual, let alone an S2000 is beyond comprehension. Respect.

I have seen a middle aged lady driving a Phoenix Yellow ITR around, from time to time. Hard to miss that. :tomato: :rofl:

Thanks man!

My mom is ultimately where I got all my car enthusiasm from :rofl: ... I think she goes through cars almost as quickly as J. :what:


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