No Story
02-23-2011, 09:11 PM
#42
I thought those cars were original cars that were in bad shape, which were then, restored and in some cases modified with things such as larger more modern engines, air conditioning...etc.Some restomods are, but for the most part they start out as very basic with little collectibility and modified from there. It's not surprising to have nothing really but a period correct body on a modern chassis with a current powertrain. I've seen some cars that were restomodded that started out as a rare piece, but this isn't at all common. In today's marketplace, a car with any historical significance can still be restored with period correct pieces that still allow it to be considered original (or close to it).
Restomods are a relatively new component of the car hobby. Some of them sell for big money (always the ones shown on TV), but many of them sell for nowhere near their initial investment. I guess it's much like a restored car: Those that are restored properly bring the good money, the majority, however, struggle to recoup their restoration costs.
Terry
02-23-2011, 09:11 PM
#43
Your Friendly Canadian
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Age: 31
Posts: 17,428
Received 1,484 Likes
on
1,048 Posts
Good to see you got that as the first post on the second page friesm 
Jesstzn, it's nice to see you have a daughter that truly appreciates cars, it looks like a beauty
Jesstzn, it's nice to see you have a daughter that truly appreciates cars, it looks like a beauty
02-23-2011, 09:11 PM
#44
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
02-23-2011, 09:13 PM
#45
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
02-23-2011, 09:16 PM
#46
What colour red is that Jesstzn? It kind of looks like a really nice light burgundy.
Terry
Terry
02-23-2011, 09:19 PM
#48
My first Avatar....
Some restomods are, but for the most part they start out as very basic with little collectibility and modified from there. It's not surprising to have nothing really but a period correct body on a modern chassis with a current powertrain. I've seen some cars that were restomodded that started out as a rare piece, but this isn't at all common. In today's marketplace, a car with any historical significance can still be restored with period correct pieces that still allow it to be considered original (or close to it).
Restomods are a relatively new component of the car hobby. Some of them sell for big money (always the ones shown on TV), but many of them sell for nowhere near their initial investment. I guess it's much like a restored car: Those that are restored properly bring the good money, the majority, however, struggle to recoup their restoration costs.
Terry
Restomods are a relatively new component of the car hobby. Some of them sell for big money (always the ones shown on TV), but many of them sell for nowhere near their initial investment. I guess it's much like a restored car: Those that are restored properly bring the good money, the majority, however, struggle to recoup their restoration costs.
Terry
still first page for me 
(got it set to 55 posts per page)
02-23-2011, 09:24 PM
#50
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
Ya it is a burgundy but thats going to change .. right now its sitting on a rottisary all tore apart... will become more of a candy dodge P/U red with the hood & trunk stripes in a darker shade but ghost.
02-23-2011, 09:33 PM
#51
You'd be absolutely surprised pttl what you see at Barrett firsthand. Some cars there aren't really what they're made out to be.
Generally speaking, and this is generally, a rotisserie restoration means a car that has been put on a rotisserie to access the undercarriage. In some instances little work is required, other times the entire structure is replaced or corrected. In some circles, a rotisserie restoration generally means a unibody car. A frame off restoration however, still has the body, separate from the frame, on a rotisserie. In this instance it's up to interpretation. Generally, however, consider it a restoration that has included the underside of the car being accessed, repaired, refurbished, and then detailed. Also keep in mind that a lot of these concours restorations are far better than when the car was first manufactured.
Terry
02-23-2011, 09:34 PM
#52
Terry
02-23-2011, 09:45 PM
#53
My first Avatar....
You'd be absolutely surprised pttl what you see at Barrett firsthand. Some cars there aren't really what they're made out to be.
Generally speaking, and this is generally, a rotisserie restoration means a car that has been put on a rotisserie to access the undercarriage. In some instances little work is required, other times the entire structure is replaced or corrected. In some circles, a rotisserie restoration generally means a unibody car. A frame off restoration however, still has the body, separate from the frame, on a rotisserie. In this instance it's up to interpretation. Generally, however, consider it a restoration that has included the underside of the car being accessed, repaired, refurbished, and then detailed. Also keep in mind that a lot of these concours restorations are far better than when the car was first manufactured.
Terry
Generally speaking, and this is generally, a rotisserie restoration means a car that has been put on a rotisserie to access the undercarriage. In some instances little work is required, other times the entire structure is replaced or corrected. In some circles, a rotisserie restoration generally means a unibody car. A frame off restoration however, still has the body, separate from the frame, on a rotisserie. In this instance it's up to interpretation. Generally, however, consider it a restoration that has included the underside of the car being accessed, repaired, refurbished, and then detailed. Also keep in mind that a lot of these concours restorations are far better than when the car was first manufactured.
Terry
I guess I'm always shocked by the prices those cars command on the auction.
02-23-2011, 09:51 PM
#54
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
You know .. this thread turned out absolutly great ... I thought I was going to get crapped all over for posting a pix of a Chev BB in an Acura forum... but its even been a learning experience for some.
02-23-2011, 10:50 PM
#57
Registered but harmless
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 59
Posts: 14,842
Received 1,102 Likes
on
763 Posts
No, most restomods start with a common or basic car rather than a rare version, as Terry explained. I would start with an original car and frame, but not with a rare variant or option line. With a '68 Mustang, I'd use a "regular" fastback that came with a 302 V8 as the basis for a modded car, rather than use a Mustang GT with a 390 or even rarer 427 V8.
02-24-2011, 10:23 AM
#58
Welcome to Olliewood
02-24-2011, 10:37 AM
#59
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
02-24-2011, 11:38 AM
#60
In the Mid-South meow
iTrader: (2)
Wow, what an awesome piece of machinery! Love the stance and wheels. And of course the engine looks killer. Can't wait to see it once it's repainted and debadged.
BTW, I think pttl was getting a restomod mixed up with a clone.
A restomod has newer, more modern components than what came stock, like bigger wheels, better brakes, lowered suspension, modded engine, etc. So this Camaro is a perfect example of that. The fact it has Z/28 badging IMO doesn't mean it's trying to be a clone because the other components are obviously not original stock parts.
A clone is restored to look like a rarer, more special model of that base model car. You'll see this a lot with Yanko themed Camaros, Chevelles and Novas, 426 Hemi Cudas that started off as 6 cylinders or 318s, Pontiac LeMans badged to be GTOs, Galaxies made to look like 427 Thunderbolts, Buick Skylarks originally equiped with 350s fitted with 455s and painted to look like GSXs, etc. They came from the factory as basic models, but they've been restored using either period correct or reproduction parts to look, sound and perform like the original, more desirable models of that car.
In both cases the price is dictated by the quality of parts/restoration. A lot of restomods command big money at B-J due to the uniqueness of their parts or superior quality of fit and finish. The clones that command big money usually have period correct parts and markings, and unless you know what the VIN numbers mean, you would have no clue it wasn't an original car.
BTW, I think pttl was getting a restomod mixed up with a clone.
A restomod has newer, more modern components than what came stock, like bigger wheels, better brakes, lowered suspension, modded engine, etc. So this Camaro is a perfect example of that. The fact it has Z/28 badging IMO doesn't mean it's trying to be a clone because the other components are obviously not original stock parts.
A clone is restored to look like a rarer, more special model of that base model car. You'll see this a lot with Yanko themed Camaros, Chevelles and Novas, 426 Hemi Cudas that started off as 6 cylinders or 318s, Pontiac LeMans badged to be GTOs, Galaxies made to look like 427 Thunderbolts, Buick Skylarks originally equiped with 350s fitted with 455s and painted to look like GSXs, etc. They came from the factory as basic models, but they've been restored using either period correct or reproduction parts to look, sound and perform like the original, more desirable models of that car.
In both cases the price is dictated by the quality of parts/restoration. A lot of restomods command big money at B-J due to the uniqueness of their parts or superior quality of fit and finish. The clones that command big money usually have period correct parts and markings, and unless you know what the VIN numbers mean, you would have no clue it wasn't an original car.
02-24-2011, 12:17 PM
#61
Senior Moderator
02-24-2011, 01:16 PM
#62
Wow, what an awesome piece of machinery! Love the stance and wheels. And of course the engine looks killer. Can't wait to see it once it's repainted and debadged.
BTW, I think pttl was getting a restomod mixed up with a clone.
A restomod has newer, more modern components than what came stock, like bigger wheels, better brakes, lowered suspension, modded engine, etc. So this Camaro is a perfect example of that. The fact it has Z/28 badging IMO doesn't mean it's trying to be a clone because the other components are obviously not original stock parts.
A clone is restored to look like a rarer, more special model of that base model car. You'll see this a lot with Yanko themed Camaros, Chevelles and Novas, 426 Hemi Cudas that started off as 6 cylinders or 318s, Pontiac LeMans badged to be GTOs, Galaxies made to look like 427 Thunderbolts, Buick Skylarks originally equiped with 350s fitted with 455s and painted to look like GSXs, etc. They came from the factory as basic models, but they've been restored using either period correct or reproduction parts to look, sound and perform like the original, more desirable models of that car.
In both cases the price is dictated by the quality of parts/restoration. A lot of restomods command big money at B-J due to the uniqueness of their parts or superior quality of fit and finish. The clones that command big money usually have period correct parts and markings, and unless you know what the VIN numbers mean, you would have no clue it wasn't an original car.
BTW, I think pttl was getting a restomod mixed up with a clone.
A restomod has newer, more modern components than what came stock, like bigger wheels, better brakes, lowered suspension, modded engine, etc. So this Camaro is a perfect example of that. The fact it has Z/28 badging IMO doesn't mean it's trying to be a clone because the other components are obviously not original stock parts.
A clone is restored to look like a rarer, more special model of that base model car. You'll see this a lot with Yanko themed Camaros, Chevelles and Novas, 426 Hemi Cudas that started off as 6 cylinders or 318s, Pontiac LeMans badged to be GTOs, Galaxies made to look like 427 Thunderbolts, Buick Skylarks originally equiped with 350s fitted with 455s and painted to look like GSXs, etc. They came from the factory as basic models, but they've been restored using either period correct or reproduction parts to look, sound and perform like the original, more desirable models of that car.
In both cases the price is dictated by the quality of parts/restoration. A lot of restomods command big money at B-J due to the uniqueness of their parts or superior quality of fit and finish. The clones that command big money usually have period correct parts and markings, and unless you know what the VIN numbers mean, you would have no clue it wasn't an original car.
BTW: OP still need pics of SAID DAUGHTER
02-24-2011, 01:29 PM
#63
Registered Member
And thanks so much for showing us your daughter's fine piece of machinery. Good for you and her. (BTW, I'm 65)
02-24-2011, 03:32 PM
#65
Moderator Alumnus
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Rockville, MD
Age: 41
Posts: 5,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
02-24-2011, 08:58 PM
#66
My first Avatar....
Great thread. Thanks to all you car guys for letting me in on the restored car world....well a little ways anyhow.
02-24-2011, 10:30 PM
#67
AZ Community Team
Here's a restomod of a 1970 Bud Moore Boss Mustang 302, it was owned by a friend and his partner and raced in the mid-Atlantic region. I believe it started out as a Boss 302 street and was restored/mod'ed into a Bud Moore replica. They bought it used and sold it a few years later. I'm not sure of the exact financials but I believe they sold it for a slightly more than they paid for it and they they did put some money into some more mod's. One thing is my friend actually got a hold of Moore and he was friendly enough to give them some technical info on the original Boss 302's.
Last edited by Legend2TL; 02-24-2011 at 10:32 PM.
02-24-2011, 10:57 PM
#68
personally i rather do something like this, and start from fresh (whole new body)
http://www.mustangdepot.com/OnLineCa...Metal/body.htm
i know it is kinda expensive, but most of the money, if not all can be recouped just in sheetmetal work (ie: not having to repair rust), but also in the paint prep, since it should already be basically straight (since you know it will not have had any prior accidents)
http://www.mustangdepot.com/OnLineCa...Metal/body.htm
i know it is kinda expensive, but most of the money, if not all can be recouped just in sheetmetal work (ie: not having to repair rust), but also in the paint prep, since it should already be basically straight (since you know it will not have had any prior accidents)
02-25-2011, 06:48 AM
#69
Banned
I want to one day raid the stocks of Year One and build a 69 RS/SS from scratch, with all new parts. Perhaps if I win the lottery, but then I guess I could buy the real thing.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
neuronbob
3G RLX Tires, Wheels & Suspension
23
07-16-2019 10:48 AM
spoiler900
5G TLX (2015-2020)
20
10-10-2015 06:48 PM
