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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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New Weekend Toy

Here's the new toy. 2005 Carrera S with the usual options. These are the pics taken at the dealership before driving her back home. I haven't had the chance to clean her to take new pics. Enjoy!








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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Nice, Congrats...interesting dealer.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Congratulations, she looks gorgeous. I've been contemplating picking up a 997S sometimes in the future. Do you mind sharing how much you paid and what options are installed? Once again, enjoy the ride and post more pics!
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Great choice....I am considering a used c4s for a dd.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Nice ride, good to see somebody else from NO on here.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Nice ride. Congrats
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Congrats.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Looks beautiful! Congrats on the purchase!


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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Nice! Congrats! I'm jealous.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Very nice!!
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Nice, Congrats...interesting dealer.
Interesting dealer indeed. Liking the FL plates too. Sexy car indeed, always been one of my favorites
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Beautiful 997. I was just about to say, thats a sweet garage.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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dammn... lucky

gorgeous car
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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One of my favorites! Congrats, after you drive it a bit be sure to share your thoughts. The 997's as a whole do not disappoint.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Great choice....I am considering a used c4s for a dd.

You've been considering buying a lot of vehicles, you need to put or shut up!
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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You've been considering buying a lot of vehicles, you need to put or shut up!


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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Congrats!! Car looks great and that garage you got it from looks pretty interesting.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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congrats!
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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O man U need to get that out to the track! Nice ride.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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Love me some silver Porsches. Great choice! Enjoy!
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Nice! What do you do to be able to afford that at 28? That's an awesome car.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
what options are installed?
From what I can see,
19" Sport Design wheels, Sport Chrono Plus (with PASM but I don't think it has sport exhaust), black standard leather power seats, Xenon lights with headlight washer, floor mats (yeah they charge extra for that), sport steering wheel.

It kinda looks like it has a short throw shifter in it and I can't decide if it's GT silver metallic or Arctic Silver.

That's all I can find from the pics, but with a 911, it really doesn't matter what options it has, they all drive beautifully.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Congrats !! Beautiful choice and it's in a classic colored Porsche... I'm not a big fan of silver cars, but it just looks so right on a 911...

Originally Posted by nokiaman
Do you mind sharing how much you paid and what options are installed?
Depending on mileage, I'd guess 60s....

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Nice! Congrats! I'm jealous.
I've always wanted one too, but don't think I'd want to make the payments on one... A poor mans porsche (s2k, etc) would probably be a better option for some of us...
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
From what I can see,
19" Sport Design wheels, Sport Chrono Plus (with PASM but I don't think it has sport exhaust), black standard leather power seats, Xenon lights with headlight washer, floor mats (yeah they charge extra for that), sport steering wheel.

It kinda looks like it has a short throw shifter in it and I can't decide if it's GT silver metallic or Arctic Silver.

That's all I can find from the pics, but with a 911, it really doesn't matter what options it has, they all drive beautifully.
It also has Navigation with PCM, which almost always comes with the Bose sounds system.

The shifter look normal to me, other wise your options list looks pretty accurate.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Nice. A guy in my office park has a dark gray 997 S Cabriolet...such a hot car. Enjoy (who am I kidding, of course you will!).
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
It also has Navigation with PCM, which almost always comes with the Bose sounds system.

The shifter look normal to me, other wise your options list looks pretty accurate.
All 997's have the PCM 2.1 however, the nav module and telephone module were seperate options. If he doesn't have the nav module, that is just a trip computer and radio screen.

I thought the shifter looked a little "straight up" instead of "pushed forward", it doesn't actually lower it in a 997, it just shortens the throw.

I don't see a Bose logo on the door speaker, but there's only one pic that shows the inside of the door and the steering wheel could be in the way.

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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
All 997's have the PCM 2.1 however, the nav module and telephone module were seperate options. If he doesn't have the nav module, that is just a trip computer and radio screen.

I thought the shifter looked a little "straight up" instead of "pushed forward", it doesn't actually lower it in a 997, it just shortens the throw.

I don't see a Bose logo on the door speaker, but there's only one pic that shows the inside of the door and the steering wheel could be in the way.
Interesting, learn something new every day!
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Oh yeah, he's got the colored Porsche Crest on the wheels, they charge extra for that too.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Awesome car, congrats!

Originally Posted by GreenMonster

Depending on mileage, I'd guess 60s....
I see a bunch on autotrader for mid 50's with low miles. Didn't realize they were so affordable...hmm...
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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I see a bunch on autotrader for mid 50's with low miles. Didn't realize they were so affordable...hmm...
With the 997 gen. 2's just coming out with upgraded performance, fuel economy and optional PDK transmission, I suspect there will be more early 997's to be had at a fantastic price in the near future. Best part is they have been out long enough to know they are still Porsche through and through, no common problems that are significant enough to worry about.

Factor in the great aftermarket support for these cars and the P-car community as a whole is fantastic, its one of the few vehicles I wouldn't hesitate to purchase used, assuming the car was in good shape. From my experience I've witnessed more BMW "cocks" then Porsche "cocks," that's not to say they don't exist, but they seem to be harder to find and typically drive base model's, i.e. the Cayman or the Boxster.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
With the 997 gen. 2's just coming out with upgraded performance, fuel economy and optional PDK transmission, I suspect there will be more early 997's to be had at a fantastic price in the near future.
The problem with comparing used Porsche prices is that there is no set price for the vehicle when it was new. These are pretty close to being custom cars right from the factory, there are literally over 1000 ways you could configure a 911.

A couple of examples
X51 powerkit was a $16900 option (raises the hp from 355 to 381)
Ceramic Composite Brakes $8150
Full leather interior $3665

So right there I have 3 options that raised the MSRP by $28715. So if I was comparing 2 used 911's one with these options and one without, I could expect the one with them to be selling for 15-20K more than the one without.

The best deals on a Porsche right now are on the 996 bodies, they have dropped in price dramatically recently.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Sick! How many horses the S pushin?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroday
Awesome car, congrats!

I see a bunch on autotrader for mid 50's with low miles. Didn't realize they were so affordable...hmm...
Be careful tho'... some of 'em are better optioned than others...
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Sick! How many horses the S pushin?
In 05 on a 997 S model, tree fiddy.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
The problem with comparing used Porsche prices is that there is no set price for the vehicle when it was new. These are pretty close to being custom cars right from the factory, there are literally over 1000 ways you could configure a 911.

A couple of examples
X51 powerkit was a $16900 option (raises the hp from 355 to 381)
Ceramic Composite Brakes $8150
Full leather interior $3665

So right there I have 3 options that raised the MSRP by $28715. So if I was comparing 2 used 911's one with these options and one without, I could expect the one with them to be selling for 15-20K more than the one without.

The best deals on a Porsche right now are on the 996 bodies, they have dropped in price dramatically recently.
Of course it is hard to compare apples to apples with these cars, unless you know exactly how they are equipped. What's even more difficult is finding a used 911 equipped exactly how you would want it configured. For example I really like the sport seats, but it seems to be a rare item on used 911's, not impossible to find but you easily weed out 9 out of 10 cars when you are very specific about certain options.

Yes the 996's are cheaper, often cheaper then good specimens of 993, however, the 996's are much less desirable, they had questionable interiors, some what common rear main leaks(in particular on the earlier models) and the headlight style only lasted for one generation. They just won't be as collectable in the years to come, I think the 997 will go down in the history books as the first liquid cooled 911 that Porsche got right. That's not to say a 996 is a bad car, but if it was between a 996 or a 987(Cayman S or Boxster S, if your a cabrio guy) I would probably go with the 987S. Then again if it wasn't my daily driver I think I would rather search for a mint 993, who's to say what's the right choice, in fact I think they are all pretty good choices!

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In 05 on a 997 S model, tree fiddy.
Cool, cool!
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