New S4 vs M3

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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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I guess we have to buy this mag to find out.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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Good news to hear... Just hope the price won't be 50k+ I would be happy to see it a $40k!!
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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35000 British pounds is $56,000. Sorry.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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But that does not mean the S4 will cost that much here in the USA. I am guessing $50K fully optioned.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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Actually I found the scoop in that article. Will post next.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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Audi has long been playing catch-up to the M3. And its latest assault on BMW's greatest sporting saloon is the 344bhp V8-powered quattro S4

Audi S4
Muscular all-round sports-saloon, but with less thrilling responses.

BMW M3
Still the guv'nor: a purer sporting drive but less secure than S4.

The M3 wins. The audi is better in the wet (more stable / more traction). But it's Steering, Audi's usual failing, that lets the car down.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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BMW can never lose.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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0-60 in 5.4 seconds for the S4

http://www.fastsaloons.com/cardetail...%20(03%20-%20)
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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busy whorin lately?? hey, at least you provide good info in the process gavriil
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Holly cow, the S4 weighs 1650 kg which is 3634 pounds.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by nate'sCLS
busy whorin lately?? hey, at least you provide good info in the process gavriil :thumbs up:
Do what I can mate...er...nate.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
Holly cow, the S4 weighs 1650 kg which is 3634 pounds.
heavy 8 cyl though
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Dec 20, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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Autocar: E46 M3: 0-60 4.8s, 0-100 11.5s, 30-70 4.1s
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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I hate to say this but the new s4 is a dissapointment...it doesn't have the modability aspect the last s4 had and its a heavy ride...also 0-60 in 5.4 is quick, but i'm pretty sure we can get a cls-6speed to do that w/all the bolt ons i.e. headers/intake/exhaust/pullies


I was expecting audi to knock our socks off, but they haven't
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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Audi will knock our socks off with the upcoming RS4. Watch out there. That one will be in the mid if not low 4s for the 0-60.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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whats the engine specs on that? 4.2 v8 turbo? thanks
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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It's the same engine as in the RS6. 4.2 liter V8 biturbo with 450HP.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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From a mag source:

The twin-turbo 4.2-litre V8 engine that powers the RS6 features five valves per cylinder, hydraulic adjustment of intake cam timing, and two-stage intake manifolds. Two pressure-loss-optimised intercoolers also help in the quest for massive power. A headline-grabbing 450PS (444bhp) is developed all the way from 5700-6400rpm and the peak torque output of 413lb ft stretches from 1950rpm to 5600rpm.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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Actually, the above comparo will be irrelevant in about a year. As you can see the M3 is a 2door coupe and the A4 a 4 door sedan.

There will be an A4 coupe and in its S4 version it will make 371HP from this same engine. I am sure it wil be enough to beat the M3 in the straight line cos it will probably be lighter than this 4 door S4.
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Dec 20, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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i luv the fact we have a resident automotive industry analyst/detective

BTW, any werd on pricing 4 the rs4?
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Dec 20, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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I can't wait for the S4/RS4 coupes...but I too am interested in pricing.
Also, is there any truth to the rumors of an M3 sedan making a comeback?
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Dec 20, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil


There will be an A4 coupe and in its S4 version it will make 371HP from this same engine.
Now we're talkin mate
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Dec 20, 2002 | 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by AcuraFan
.Also, is there any truth to the rumors of an M3 sedan making a comeback?
Not in the current E46 style....BMW is introducing the Performance Package for the 330i, so that's basic proof that there will not be an E46 M3 sedan.

An S4 coupe would be sick.....
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Dec 21, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by gavriil
Audi will knock our socks off with the upcoming RS4. Watch out there. That one will be in the mid if not low 4s for the 0-60.
I saw a comparo between the RS6, and the M5! it was done by automotor and sport tv(euro car show), and the RS6, raped the M5 in the 1/4, and arround the cones! You can thank awd+ gobs of torque for that!
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Dec 21, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by unsure
i luv the fact we have a resident automotive industry analyst/detective

BTW, any werd on pricing 4 the rs4?
Read above posts.
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Dec 21, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by torqueaholic
I saw a comparo between the RS6, and the M5! it was done by automotor and sport tv(euro car show), and the RS6, raped the M5 in the 1/4, and arround the cones! You can thank awd+ gobs of torque for that!
I am sure it did.
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Dec 21, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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hmm anyone remeber the video of the RS6,m5 and E55 AMG ?

I belive for 1/4 mile it was E55, m5 then RS6.

I'm waiting for the next S4 or RS4. If i DO get the S4 then i'll just get the aftermarket bi-turbo that's avail on the RS6.
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Dec 23, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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The RS6 is faster than all those 3
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Dec 23, 2002 | 02:43 PM
  #30  
By the way, I now hear that the RS4 will possibly get a 3 liter biturbo engine. The 3 liter engine from the A4/A6 only aggressivelly turbocharged to make at least 380HP.
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Dec 23, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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I want an RS6!
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Dec 23, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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here is the test






Audi still can't get the feel and body control down...
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Dec 23, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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Nice, thanks.
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Dec 23, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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One of the reasons that I prefer the M3:

The S4 will never be able to do this:

http://www.macio.org/Varano/Video/Max%20087.mpg



http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=823063&page=1
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Dec 23, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
hmm anyone remeber the video of the RS6,m5 and E55 AMG ?

I belive for 1/4 mile it was E55, m5 then RS6.

I'm waiting for the next S4 or RS4. If i DO get the S4 then i'll just get the aftermarket bi-turbo that's avail on the RS6.
hmm...i think the video was the m5, rs6, and the special edition 5-series
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Dec 24, 2002 | 02:09 AM
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the new S4 is a visual disapointment to me, looks gh3y now......
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Dec 24, 2002 | 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by xX24Xx
the new S4 is a visual disapointment to me, looks gh3y now......
I wouldn't go so far as to call it ghey, but ya I expected more in looks...
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Dec 24, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by bkknight369
hmm...i think the video was the m5, rs6, and the special edition 5-series

yes i remember that one but there was another one , the one u mentioned wasn't on a track , it was a m5, alpina 540, and rs6. the one i'm talking about was RS6,m5, E55


http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...ghlight=m5+rs6
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