Me vs. 350z Touring w/Automatic
10-06-2003 | 03:44 PM
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Me vs. 350z Touring w/Automatic
My buddy just bought a 350z with the touring package and an automatic trans. I am scheduled to run him on friday night at the strip. The car will have about 1200mi. by then and is stock. The only mod I have that might have a chance of effecting the 1/4 is my eibach pro-kit, other than that I'm bone stock. My best 1/4 was 14.8@98. Has anyone else run one? What do you guy's think?
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10-06-2003 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
I estimate that 350 Auto will do 14.5s in 1/4 mile with kill any CLS Auto even with mods. Save some, like mattag and scalbert's CLS-5AT.
I estimate that 350 Auto will do 14.5s in 1/4 mile with kill any CLS Auto even with mods. Save some, like mattag and scalbert's CLS-5AT.
10-06-2003 | 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaPower
but joedokes has a 6spd
but joedokes has a 6spd
My 60' do suck, but I don't know how to fix it. Last time, I just popped the clutch @1500rpm and the tires still went up I smoke. I got like a 2.5 or something awful. I can't keep the shitty michelins from spinning no matter what I do. They even break loose at the 1-2 shift. How do I lauch this freakin boat
10-06-2003 | 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by God
Eat subway loss a few pounds
Eat subway loss a few pounds
I need to find me a 16yr old anorexic girl and put her in the drivers seat.
10-06-2003 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
Nashua - Mike also ran 14.3 w/ auto.
I think it will come to who can drive stick better.
Nashua - Mike also ran 14.3 w/ auto.
I think it will come to who can drive stick better.
btw, the Z is auto
joe: u tried lowering ur tire pressure in the front?
10-06-2003 | 06:32 PM
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Yeah... we do have some modded CLS-5AT that does the 1/4 mile in 14.2s-14.4s
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
10-06-2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaPower
14.3 is impressive, was that stock?
btw, the Z is auto
joe: u tried lowering ur tire pressure in the front?
14.3 is impressive, was that stock?
btw, the Z is auto
joe: u tried lowering ur tire pressure in the front?
FYI, I've ran this car about 10 times, but never with the springs.
10-06-2003 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Yeah... we do have some modded CLS-5AT that does the 1/4 mile in 14.2s-14.4s
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
Yeah... we do have some modded CLS-5AT that does the 1/4 mile in 14.2s-14.4s
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
whoever gets a better 60' will win, since he has an auto its gonna be easier for him but if you get out the whole good he aint realin you in, drop the front to 20 psi if you got to, set the back to 40 psi, race w/ the fuel light on...
10-06-2003 | 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Yeah... we do have some modded CLS-5AT that does the 1/4 mile in 14.2s-14.4s
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
Yeah... we do have some modded CLS-5AT that does the 1/4 mile in 14.2s-14.4s
Mattg,
Mike,
Scalbert,
And who else...
BTW, 6-speed CLS will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6-14.8 stcok. That is not too competitve.
Anything with less than 0.4 sec difference between Car A and B, is reaction-time race (if the driver is consistent!).
10-06-2003 | 09:36 PM
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From: PDX
Originally posted by joedokes28
How can I prep my car so I get the best advantage possible? I already planned on pulling the jack and spare and 25psi in the fronts, what else?
How can I prep my car so I get the best advantage possible? I already planned on pulling the jack and spare and 25psi in the fronts, what else?
10-06-2003 | 10:53 PM
#23
from 100mph up, the 350z will conquer. Our cars are shit after 3rd gear in an auto. I drove my clients 350z auto to 130 just messin around, that thing is friggin stable and really shines at those speeds. It felt as fast as my modded cl-s up to 100, maybe even a tick slower, but after that, night and day.
10-07-2003 | 12:30 AM
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Re: Me vs. 350z Touring w/Automatic
Originally posted by joedokes28
My buddy just bought a 350z with the touring package and an automatic trans. I am scheduled to run him on friday night at the strip. The car will have about 1200mi. by then and is stock. The only mod I have that might have a chance of effecting the 1/4 is my eibach pro-kit, other than that I'm bone stock. My best 1/4 was 14.8@98. Has anyone else run one? What do you guy's think?
My buddy just bought a 350z with the touring package and an automatic trans. I am scheduled to run him on friday night at the strip. The car will have about 1200mi. by then and is stock. The only mod I have that might have a chance of effecting the 1/4 is my eibach pro-kit, other than that I'm bone stock. My best 1/4 was 14.8@98. Has anyone else run one? What do you guy's think?
10-07-2003 | 09:31 AM
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FYI... A few bone stock Auto Z's have run 14.1 and 14.2 at the track. Not saying all run this, but it's possible. It should be a good race, but I think the nod may go to the Z due to a more consistent launch with the auto tranny.
10-16-2003 | 09:03 PM
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well with my fathers 04 maxima se 5spd auto i ran a 14.64 at 94 mph bone stock in pretty warm weather high 70s.. so i would tend to think the 350z should be a tick faster?? i ran the max with about 4000 miles on it... the same day i ran my 03 auto cl-s to a 14.7 with intake, but im sure i could get a 14.6 our of her.. but good luck let us know what happens!!
10-16-2003 | 09:40 PM
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It's not insanely hard to launch, but it takes alot of practice. Dumping the clutch is exactly what you dont want to do. The sudden shock on the drivetrain causes the tires to spin & hop if any extra power is applied. You have to slip the clutch progressively off the line. My best 60's came with a little bit of spin off the line, but no hop. You have to get rolling a little before you floor it. It's hard to do at the lights because you just wanna floor it and go. I pulled a 2.306 60' last time at the strip and got a 14.52. When the launched sucked due to lots of hop or bogging it I would run low 15's. As you can see the launch is what makes or breaks a pass. The CL doesnt have enough low end torque to recover from a botched launch.
10-16-2003 | 10:21 PM
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You probably know this but have you tried switching off the traction control, racing fuel, and losing the air filter? If possible a racing slick or a shaved tire will get you off to a good launch and make all the difference. Try a tire with a smaller outer diameter but more width. That will give you the same effect as slightly lower gearing but a smaller contact patch. There is also a fluid you can spray on your tires to make them stick better. I think it's made by VHT.
PS: Lose everything that adds weight to the car (ie: rear wing, mud flaps, spare tire, carpeting, engine shroud, strut tower brace, wiper fluid, even the back seat if you know how to take it out. Same goes for the passenger seat and if you know how remove the glass & the speakers from the passenger doors & the sunroof and headliner. Might try a lighter battery while you're at it. And of course practice your launches. Front drive will give you a small edge on the launch but he has more power and less weight. Good Luck!!
PS: Lose everything that adds weight to the car (ie: rear wing, mud flaps, spare tire, carpeting, engine shroud, strut tower brace, wiper fluid, even the back seat if you know how to take it out. Same goes for the passenger seat and if you know how remove the glass & the speakers from the passenger doors & the sunroof and headliner. Might try a lighter battery while you're at it. And of course practice your launches. Front drive will give you a small edge on the launch but he has more power and less weight. Good Luck!!
10-16-2003 | 11:30 PM
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Here's the skinny according to Car and Driver :
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
If you lose, which is still likely since he has more hp, less weight, and a larger footprint than the 215/50-17 michelins have, maybe you'll find some consolation in this thread:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
"As in all the G- and Z-cars fitted with Nissan's VQ DOHC 24-valve 3.5-liter V-6, the engine makes trucklike torque at low revs and trucklike sound and vibrations at high revs. The river of sine waves through the cabin and the rasp of the exhaust make going to the redline in the G less intoxicating than in, say, an Acura 3.2CL Type-S or a BMW 330Ci..."
Good luck dude.
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
If you lose, which is still likely since he has more hp, less weight, and a larger footprint than the 215/50-17 michelins have, maybe you'll find some consolation in this thread:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
"As in all the G- and Z-cars fitted with Nissan's VQ DOHC 24-valve 3.5-liter V-6, the engine makes trucklike torque at low revs and trucklike sound and vibrations at high revs. The river of sine waves through the cabin and the rasp of the exhaust make going to the redline in the G less intoxicating than in, say, an Acura 3.2CL Type-S or a BMW 330Ci..."
Good luck dude.
10-16-2003 | 11:49 PM
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Here's some good news. C&D tested an Accord EX-V6 coupe w/6M. Only 240 hp & ~ 150 lbs lighter than a CL-S. Here's what they got:
"The six-speed two-door hit 60 in 5.9 seconds and hustled through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 98 mph. "
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...rticle_id=7011
http://roadandtrack.com/reviews/road...1_g35_data.pdf
"The six-speed two-door hit 60 in 5.9 seconds and hustled through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 98 mph. "
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...rticle_id=7011
http://roadandtrack.com/reviews/road...1_g35_data.pdf
10-17-2003 | 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by SpeedyV6
Here's the skinny according to Car and Driver :
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
If you lose, which is still likely since he has more hp, less weight, and a larger footprint than the 215/50-17 michelins have, maybe you'll find some consolation in this thread:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
"As in all the G- and Z-cars fitted with Nissan's VQ DOHC 24-valve 3.5-liter V-6, the engine makes trucklike torque at low revs and trucklike sound and vibrations at high revs. The river of sine waves through the cabin and the rasp of the exhaust make going to the redline in the G less intoxicating than in, say, an Acura 3.2CL Type-S or a BMW 330Ci..."
Good luck dude.
Here's the skinny according to Car and Driver :
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
If you lose, which is still likely since he has more hp, less weight, and a larger footprint than the 215/50-17 michelins have, maybe you'll find some consolation in this thread:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
"As in all the G- and Z-cars fitted with Nissan's VQ DOHC 24-valve 3.5-liter V-6, the engine makes trucklike torque at low revs and trucklike sound and vibrations at high revs. The river of sine waves through the cabin and the rasp of the exhaust make going to the redline in the G less intoxicating than in, say, an Acura 3.2CL Type-S or a BMW 330Ci..."
Good luck dude.
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G35C 6spd does NOT do 6.0 in 0-60 and its 1/4 is NOT 14.6 and 350z auto does NOT run the same time as G35C 6spd... and dont ever never trust magazine's #s compare to reality
10-17-2003 | 05:08 AM
#39
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Originally posted by SpeedyV6
Here's the skinny according to Car and Driver :
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
Here's the skinny according to Car and Driver :
"In straight performance numbers, the G35 (manual) keeps the pace. The G35's 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph dash and 14.6 quarter-mile are within a 10th or two of the Type-S and 330C..." http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
A 350 Z w/automatic should be similar to a G35 manual.
for 6spd?G35 sedan auto pulled a 14.6 when it was first tested, i believe by motor trend.
6spds are running low 14s even the sedans have hit 14.0-14.1
so please no mag racing.
BTW, auto Zs are capable of low 14s but there are some that do no justice to the car and run high 14s
10-17-2003 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by jtkz13
The CL doesnt have enough low end torque to recover from a botched launch.
The CL doesnt have enough low end torque to recover from a botched launch.
Actually, something happened yesterday which shocked me. I was on my way to Decatur, AL. At about 7:00 AM, temps about 40 F and just outside of Huntsville, I was in some traffic. The road was that kin of pressed pebble type so traction isn't the greatest anyway. But when the traffic cleared I stomped on it in 2nd at about 30 MPH and the tires lit up. I was surprised that this occurred in second and continued to redline.