knight rider

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I was at the local Exxon gas station filling up and on every pump was a notice, "May Contain Up to 10% Ethanol". What the crap?

RaviNJCLs

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Have you been asleep the last 2 years or so?

knight rider

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perhaps... since I don't know that this is well known information.

invisiblewar

^+1

RaviNJCLs

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Maybe it's just me, but I have seen that on almost every pump I have been to in the last 2 years. I also fill up every 2-3 days, so that helps.

stogie1020

It's been that way way for a LONG time here in AZ in the winter. Even says so on the pumps "November though April" I think.

Anachostic

Did you notice the gas smells like kerosene now? Takes all the pleasure out of huffing. Cause you know, I huff for taste.

stogie1020

Doesn't Chevron taste the BEST???

I used to hit up Sunoco, but now they are meh...

knight rider

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I would like to know what this means for high performance engines, if anything. Tell you what, this may mean 1 less Lamborghini in Dubai.

I just read that this percentage may go to 20

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...nol-fuel_N.htm

Anachostic

I can say that the blend is crappy for boats or any vehicle that sits for a long time. The ethanol separates (or settles) and you end up with gas and crap in your tank. up to 10% crap, that is.

iTimmy

That article way over a year old.

dallison

old news. there are a few stations out there without ethanol

evilone

they have that at every station here.

litesout

I haven't seen station that wasn't using E10 in years.

fuzzy02CLS

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I have to agree with this.

jupitersolo

At least he's catching up to us.


I've scene 10% for many many yrs, just the last two yrs or so, it's been yr round.

invisiblewar

isnt it the law to have those stickers on the pumps...and they are fucking bright yellow

Costco

At least you guys don't have to settle for 91 "Premium" piss-gas. I think if I took a leak in one of those gas containers and doused it with some kerosene to give it the scent, then poured it in the tank, my car wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

mcflyguy24

Shell V-power or Exxon 105 octane if you can find it anywhere that isn't near a track don't have any ethanol added.

picus

We have 94 here, but it's 14% ethanol. We have 91 with 10% and some with 0%. Kind of weird.

Rapture

Ehh, been to over a dozen or so stations around here over the past couple years and there's no difference in octane or ethanol all 92 octane with 10% Ethanol

fsttyms1

We can still find a few stations here with out it. I notice a reduction in mileage of roughly 40 or so miles to a tank with the 10% in my TL.

Ethanol is a killer in small engines and marine applications. The store i bought my boat from said boat engine repair is up 600% due to ethanol

TS_eXpeed

I thought 93 (what we have here) was pretty much the highest you could get without being near a track, making your own, or something of the likes.

Hockeyman

Most stations around me are E10, but there are some that have big signs and banners saying "100% real gas, no ethanol." Most of those stations charge an extra 10-20 cents a gallon because of it. I usually fill up at the Shell next to me that has real gas, just plain 91 octane V power.

invisiblewar

doesnt the ethanol actually boost octane a bit? A dude i know converted his gnx to run on ethanol and says its about 105-110 octane. I dont really know shit about it and just know that before e10 i got 21 mpg in the city and now i get about 19

knight rider

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All I know is ethanol in our gasoline will lower MPG. That means that while we use ethanol to help wane ourselves off of foriegn oil we still take it in the pocket. I suppose if the money goes to domestic farmers then.... I don't know. I'm on the fence about this one. Especially if the percentage goes to 20. And I'm sure my motorcycle won't like it at all.

TzarChasm

Ethanol does boost octane, so it shouldn't hurt any cars.

Ethanol also reduces gas mileage, since it simply contains less latent energy than gas. Not only that, but it is more expensive to make than gas, so it will drive up the cost of gas. And while it will produce less emmisions, it also produces more water, causing your exhaust system to rust out faster.

You want to save the environment? You gotta pay.

spdy0001

There is a Sunoco station near me that you can get 93/94/101 versions of premium. I never pay for the 94 or 101

On topic there is only one station I know about around here that has no ethenol and they have a big banner advertising it. Its a little more expensive that other stations but I fill up there when I can

derrick

I found the Sunoco 94 to give me poorer fuel economy than the Shell 93 in my TL-S. I couldn't justify the added cost to use Sunoco from that point forward.

Now ... just V-Power in my car when I fill up in Canada. Otherwise, whatever Costco has in their pumps in Michigan. In either situation, I don't believe there to be ethanol in either (premium) fuel choice.

evilone

Yeah the old race track gas stations here used to have 100+ octane at the pumps, but it has been a little while since I have seen it. Also Invisablewar the 7-11s here have those 10% stickers in black not yellow.

knight rider

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yes, same here.

sho_nuff1997

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There has been 10% ethanol at a lot of stations around here for more than 5 years. There are a few counties left that don't require it, but they are hard to come by.