CarForAllSeasons

soopa already figured it out in another thread and didnt throw the hammer...so I have no idea what that means right now.

Anyway, I'm not trying to start a fight. I just don't think that wolfe has done anything to deserve being called a troll.

wolfeman314

Thanks for sticking up for me, CarForAllSeasons. . . at least someone understands what these forums are about.

And the rest of you, don't you realize that it's OK for people to have opinions other than your own? Just because I think the IS350 is superior to the G35 doesn't make (1) me right or (2) you wrong. It's simply my opinion. Sure, I think I'm right, and you think you're right, but grow up, these forums are about the exchange of opinions and I think I make some rather valid points about Lexus's mission to build a superior small luxury sedan.

pimpin-tl

07 G35 owns IS350 in build quality, performance, materials, size, and 50/50 weight, Also Price and features.

wolfeman314

Ah, the sweeping generalizations so characteristic of these forums.

Scrib

And what's wrong with that? It's an opinion. And opinions are like... Well, you know the rest.


This thread wasn't meant to get panties in a bunch.

pimpin-tl

Oh but it is so true.

IS350 vs 07 G35

IS350 40k+, 45k with all options
G35 $33-35k loaded with all options

Handling

g35--

The 18-inch shoes (225/50-18 front) — the base rubber is 17-inch all-seasons — deliver grip that’s a little better than the previous G35 managed: 0.87 g versus 0.85, but neither number is impressive by the standards of this class. What is impressive is the G35’s nifty footwork on a set of switchbacks or that secret stretch of country road where you just know your transit times are world-class.

This honey can dance as fast as you can pedal, without a misstep and without punishing its partner in the ride department. Besides its more aggressive tires, the Sport 6MT employs firmer rear dampers and harder steering-rack bushings. It’s a setup that delivers Bimmer-esque compliance, and if the 3-series still holds an edge in this area, the distinctions have become paper thin.

G35 Sport models also have heftier brakes — bigger rotors, beefier single-piston calipers — that pay off in improved performance. The brake pedal felt a little long and a tad squishy, but our test car needed only 160 feet to stop from 70 mph, a number that would have been best in test in that October comparo.

IS350 --

The appetite for curves is bigger than in any Toyota product we have ever tried, the stopping power mighty — 167 feet from 70 mph — surpassing the other cars both in immediacy and effectiveness.

-- Can't locate the handling spec of the IS350 anywhere. But we do know it doesn't handle as well as the G35 because its geared towards luxury.

Performance = DRAW (G35 wasn't even broken in)

g35 -

We took our test car to the track, where it hunkered down and dashed to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds, covering the quarter-mile in 13.9 seconds at 103. Hmm, that is swell, and considerably quicker than the last G35 we tested (0 to 60 in 5.9 seconds and the quarter in 14.6 at 98 mph) as well as just a blink behind the IS350. More impressive still, our G35 tester went to the track with fewer than 250 miles on the odo. That’s like putting an Olympic sprinter in the starting blocks in his street clothes. What’ll it do with a proper break-in? We look forward to finding out.

IS350 -

It also has 306 ponies from an all-new 3.5-liter V-6, enough to make 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and sear your quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph with a few flicks of the steering-wheel paddles controlling the six-speed automatic. Every other car here sucks its dust. Welcome to the most exuberant Lexus ever built



Interior materials
- G35 Dash/doors has real alum trim or wood (depending on model)
- IS350 painted plastics on doors and dash, gaps on panels. Wood is a option and makes it look much better but is not standard.
- G35 Seats are softer, more supportive over the IS350.
- IS350 has heated/AirCooled Seats

Size
- G35 overall is a bigger car. Specs below:

IS350 --

Exterior
Length: 180.1 in. Width: 70.9 in.
Height: 56.1 in. Wheel Base: 107.5 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.7 in. Curb Weight: 3527 lbs.
Gross Weight: 4500 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 37.2 in. Front Hip Room: 54.1 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 54.4 in. Rear Head Room: 36.7 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 52.7 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.7 in.
Front Leg Room: 43.9 in. Rear Leg Room: 30.6 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5

Performance Data




Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 5.6 sec. Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 119.93 ft.
Base Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3.5 liters
Base Engine Type: V6 Horsepower: 306 hp
Max Horsepower: 6400 rpm Torque: 277 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4800 rpm Drive Type: RWD
Turning Circle: 33.5 ft.

Fuel Data


Fuel
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.1 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 21 mpg / 28 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Automatic: 359.1 mi. / 478.8 mi.

07 G35 SEDAN --

Exterior
Length: 187 in. Width: 69.8 in.
Height: 57.2 in. Wheel Base: 112.2 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.3 in. Curb Weight: 3538 lbs.
Gross Weight: 4658 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 40.5 in. Front Hip Room: 55.1 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55.6 in. Rear Head Room: 37.7 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 55.2 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.7 in.
Front Leg Room: 43.9 in. Rear Leg Room: 34.7 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.5 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5

Performance Data




Performance
Base Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3.5 liters
Base Engine Type: V6 Horsepower: 306 hp
Max Horsepower: 6800 rpm Torque: 268 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5200 rpm Drive Type: RWD
Turning Circle: 35.4 ft.

Fuel Data


Fuel
Fuel Tank Capacity: 20 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 19 mpg / 26 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Automatic: 380 mi. / 520 mi.

Dan

You cannot get the car you want with Toyota/Lexus either. Sure the options are offered, but try getting exactly what you want without a special order. That is what I liked in the past when purchasing Acuras, do you want "A" option build or "B" option build?

cob3683

G35 Sport
Base MSRP $33,450
Premium $2,350
Navi $2,100
Destination $700
Total $38,600 (Only option left is Tech package for $1,100)

IS350
Base MSRP $35,705
Luxury with 18" $4,215
Navi/Levinson $3,490
Total $43,410 (equipped to exact same level as G35 but did not include about $3,000 of the extra options the G does not offer)

MaximaPower

this thread is funny...the OP was looking at IS250 and i was wondering why would anyone buy an IS250 over a G35...no one was comparing an IS350 to a G35...but even then i would still take a G35 over the IS350

cob3683

Personally, I hate that system....which is one of the biggest reasons why I like the 3-series more than its competitors. If you want this option, we offer it. If you want that one, we have that. Are you going to pay more for this? Yep, but I would rather pay more for the exact car I want than one for less money that I am not 100% sold on.

wolfeman314

pimpin-TL, I never argued that the IS350 was sportier than the G35; I know better than to do that. I've insisted from the beginning that Lexus's offering is more luxurious and "special" than the competition (special here is defined by the little list of IS features I initially presented). The differences in acceleration are negligible, and yes, the G35 will outhandle the IS. It still doesn't quite hit the corners like the class leading 335i, though.

Nevertheless, your futile arguments about "real" metal trim are funny. Lexus uses some of the finest plastics in the business, and their switchgear is unrivaled. Look at any of their cars, even the new LS460. It has metal-look plastic all over the place; are you going to argue about that, too?

And size? Come on. . . bigger doesn't mean better; it all depends on what the customer is shopping for. If you're considering that a point in the G35's favor, it's merely an indication of your preferences.

Oh, and price. Yes, yes, the IS350 is more expensive than the G35. And guess what, you get what you pay for. I should've known better than to expect an arrogant TL driver to appreciate the virtues of a Lexus.

CarForAllSeasons

People arguing the use of real wood in these cars is laughable. Have you seen what it looks like?

The wood in a g35 is a THIN wood veneer that slides in through the side. I can not speak of the final FF of the G because I only spent time in prototypes that were meant to be taken apart and reconfigured. But the initial quality of those were pretty good.

pimpin-tl

We all know you can get one for 31-33k since people are getting them for that on G35driver. IS350 you can't get discounts on really.

pimpin-tl

Enough said, cheap.

pimpin-tl

True, same as Lexus and Acura. Very thin wood veneer.

CarForAllSeasons

Which is why I said it was laughable.

And Nothing in the that pic of the IS or my test driving one said anything about cheap. No more or no less then the G. From a FF aspect they are about on par with each other.

pimpin-tl

Car, its obvious your a troll from all your posts.

That pic has nothing that is QUALITY. Look at a G and with the standard Alum trim, etc it looks very nice.

FF aspect, no.

I am done here. I don't argue with trolls.

CarForAllSeasons

Since when was The Sarlacc a troll? Sorry, but I have never been one.

And you talk about hating blind fan boys. Look in the mirror dude.

We all have our own opinions. Guess you can't respect ours.

wolfeman314

Quality is more than real metal trim. Countless cars use fake metal materials. Why? because they wear better. If you'd like to take a quick look at a fingerprint-filled navigation-less IS and say it's cheap because its dash uses plastic, you're far more ignorant than everyone already thinks you are.

Go push the buttons in these cars. Use the A/C. Feel the doors close with authority or lack thereof. Observe their road noise at speed. Study the smoothness of the 6 speed automatics. The IS has significant advantages in these areas, but it seems you're too biased and uninformed to know the difference.

CarForAllSeasons

Just chill a little wolf, youre not helping your case right now.

FF is about the same on both. one is more luxury one is more sport. Ive said before and I say it again.

Crazy Bimmer

What i hate worse than the cheap plastic in the IS, is the cheap feeling leather used in the G35.

pimpin-tl

Sorry but you are a troll. That is why I stopped argueing with you. That is all you did then and now.

Come back when you have grown up some.



Soopa banned you and your back under another name. Like Soopa said in this topic here :


https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...22#post4920622

pimpin-tl

I agree. One of the reasons why I ditched my 05 G35. The leather wore a hole in it on the side bolster less than 1 year and the dealer refused to replace it. Said it was normal wear.

Now I know out of all the cars I owned, the best leather was in my Audi A4.

pimpin-tl

This topic I think has ran its course though.

Both are great cars, both have there plus's and negatives. Just depends which one YOU will like. When I drove all three and after owning two G35s, the 07 G35 didn't do it for me. The IS350 was a close call but the interior room was not what I liked. I got the TL instead and a RL. I am happy with both the cars and I saved money in the end.

soopa

Damn, that was a great post. I'm good.

It's funny that Sarlacc doesn't think there's anything wrong with him yet he's managed to ruin both of the threads he's touched since posting again

Closing this.