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Old 01-03-2002, 04:18 PM
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L.A. Auto Show (Acura Related)

Since we will probably be seeing alot of posts about this... lets keep it all here.
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Pretty car...which way is the front?

A new lexus concept at the autoshow. Tom Cruise will be driving it in a new movie.



I'm confused. Is it facing us or not?????
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That is an interesting looking car!!! I think if you look closely, you will see the steering wheel facing you. You can also see the rear view mirror on the pass side. I think it might look better if that were the rear end though!?!?!?!
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Re: Pretty car...which way is the front?

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A new lexus concept at the autoshow. Tom Cruise will be driving it in a new movie.

I'm confused. Is it facing us or not?????
It is facing you, though the aerodynamics of the rear wheels are all wrong. I guess that's what happens when Lexus tries to come up with an original design...:P
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Motor Trend has some good photos & info here:
http://www.motortrend.com/autoshows/la02/index.html

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I figured the car is facing toward us (saw the mirrors also.) It just looks ugly that way...I think it would be a much more interesting design if that was the back.

Oh well, we now have proof that Lexus is back-assward on things.
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so if you were driving on the freeway w/ it would you aim towards it or try to keep up w/ it???
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Nice design... I hope those fenders are removable, because they will be as soon as you hit the interstate.
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Motor Trend says about 300hp for the New 350Z and starting at less than $30k.

WOOF!
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that car is out of hand
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The 350z is just being made to make nissan look good. The old 300z was and is the only fun to drive car they ever made. But unlike Honda/Acura, Nissan is using hype around this car making it look like the greatest car that could beat any car. Mazda is also doing the same thing with the RX-8.

To sum it up

2 new cars (which are still in concept stages) that came from a line up of the older versions that never sold good to begin with and you have 2 cars that might never see production. Don't flame me but this is just true facts on how these cars are being presented to the public.

PS The new NSX is the s**t
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We will see these cars. The 350Z is defintely coming out, and from what they have said, it will only have subtle changes.
Originally posted by 2002 3.2 CL
The 350z is just being made to make nissan look good. The old 300z was and is the only fun to drive car they ever made. But unlike Honda/Acura, Nissan is using hype around this car making it look like the greatest car that could beat any car. Mazda is also doing the same thing with the RX-8.

To sum it up

2 new cars (which are still in concept stages) that came from a line up of the older versions that never sold good to begin with and you have 2 cars that might never see production. Don't flame me but this is just true facts on how these cars are being presented to the public.

PS The new NSX is the s**t
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Originally posted by 2002 3.2 CL
The 350z is just being made to make nissan look good. The old 300z was and is the only fun to drive car they ever made. But unlike Honda/Acura, Nissan is using hype around this car making it look like the greatest car that could beat any car. Mazda is also doing the same thing with the RX-8.

To sum it up

2 new cars (which are still in concept stages) that came from a line up of the older versions that never sold good to begin with and you have 2 cars that might never see production. Don't flame me but this is just true facts on how these cars are being presented to the public.

PS The new NSX is the s**t
The version of the 350Z at the LA Show is the production version, so that car is real. The RX-8 is still some way off but looks promising.
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http://www.newsdesk.com/en/vnr/vnrlatest-news.jsp?show=637851&subview=LN

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While talking about compacts...any news on the Evo VII?
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Originally posted by bioyuki
While talking about compacts...any news on the Evo VII?
Mitsu is supposidely going to announce that it will be available in the states in Sring 03 at the LA show.....with around 260hp, not 280hp.
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Originally posted by Beltfed


Mitsu is supposidely going to announce that it will be available in the states in Sring 03 at the LA show.....with around 260hp, not 280hp.
Yeah I knew that, just wondering about the press release. Somebody called Mitsu headquarters and she said that the Evo VII will be @ the LA Auto Show but the formal annoucment won't be until the Detroit Auto Show.
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Originally posted by bioyuki


Yeah I knew that, just wondering about the press release. Somebody called Mitsu headquarters and she said that the Evo VII will be @ the LA Auto Show but the formal annoucment won't be until the Detroit Auto Show.
You got me on that one......would be nice to know soon.
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Its Official!!!!!

LOS ANGELES, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America,
Inc. announced today that the Lancer Evolution, a rally-tuned model previously
unavailable in North America, will be coming to U.S. showrooms next year. The
announcement is sure to please enthusiasts who have hungered for the
high-performance version of the popular new Lancer sedan.
Last year, the Lancer badge, already renowned in global markets, burst
onto Mitsubishi's North American product line-up to great reviews and strong
sales. This compact sedan -- replete with big-car features -- lets customers
know that a low sticker price doesn't require a compromise in comfort, fun or
durability. Evolution is a standout in the U.S. market's Lancer family.

Lancer Evolution: It's Coming!
The magnificent Lancer Evolution will appear in U.S. showrooms in the
spring of 2003. "The Lancer EVO is our chance to stir the blood of every
enthusiast and build our reputation as a major performance player in this
country," said Pierre Gagnon, president and chief operating officer of MMSA.
"It will cast warm light on every product we sell. When we say we build
spirited cars for spirited people, everyone will be listening."
Building on the Lancer sedan's robustly designed unibody, Mitsubishi's
engineers pulled out all the stops, taking "The Bionic Man" approach to
reinvention of a stronger, faster and smarter performance car. This
unrivalled compact, super-sedan speaks volumes to Mitsubishi's technological
prowess, and World Rally Championship winning heritage. Expect the Lancer
Evolution sedan we'll see in U.S. showrooms to rumble with a 2.0 liter
turbocharged, inline-four developing more than 250 rabid horses,
gravity-defying four-wheel-drive handling, eye-ball displacing Brembo brakes
and a sub-30K sticker price.

Lancer Motorsports
Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc. will showcase its resilience,
technical expertise and competitive spirit with an expanded motorsports
commitment for the 2002 SCCA Pro Rally campaign that will feature the Lancer
and its wild Evolution derivative. With Rhys Millen behind the wheel,
Mitsubishi Lancers will do battle for the championship of the SCCA's premier
rally series in both the Open class with an EVO VII, and the nearer-to-stock
Group N class with a modified Lancer sedan.

Tuned Lancers
In the spirit of this LA Lancer celebration, several modified examples of
Lancer sedans are on display, and give testament to the compact sedans
resounding acceptance by the growing tuner culture. Modern Image, Rhys Millen
Racing, and Shawn William are responsible for these Lancer-based creations
that show just what the vehicle can become with just the right mechanical and
styling brushstrokes. Turbochargers, lowered suspensions, wild graphics,
racing bucket seats, roll bars, and lots of attitude are the touches applied
to this tuner canvas known as Lancer.

Montero Evolution Concept
A Lancer Evolution cousin, the Montero Evolution Concept, will make its
North American debut at the 2002 Los Angeles Auto Show. This concept vehicle
summarizes the visual emphasis on passion and driving enthusiasm that will go
into every one of Mitsubishi's vehicles as part of the chosen direction of new
chief designer Olivier Boulay. The production Montero's elegance is replaced
by an inspired and urgent sense of race-ready passion in Paris-Dakar bred
Montero Evolution Concept. The athleticism of the design is evident through
the chiseled and expressive lines of the concept. Mitsubishi technology
appears beneath the alluring skin of this concept with a 3.5 liter V6 MIVEC
(Mitsubishi Innovative Valve Lift & timing Electronic Control) engine powering
a Super Select 4WD system with AYC (Active Yaw Control) and an ACD (Active
Center Differential).

RPM 7000 Concept
Also appearing for the first time in Southern California is the RPM 7000
Concept. The RPM 7000 is a rolling exclamation point of a design that
embodies, or rather screams of the sporty image and competitive rally spirit
that is Mitsubishi. This vehicle takes the ideology of the wild Lancer Evo
series, and blends it in an over-the-top styling exercise that merges S.U.V.
with tarmac dancing supercar. More than just a concept bottled up by
conventional "hybrid" or "crossover" labels, the RPM 7000 uses a
315 horsepower all-wheel drive system to bring new levels of jaw-dropping
performance to a vehicle that is also at home towing jet-skis.

Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc. was established in 1981 by
Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, Tokyo, and markets a full line of vehicles,
including coupes, convertibles, sedans and sport utility vehicles. Its Web
site can be accessed at http://www.mitsubishicars.com .
For more information or images, please feel free to contact the Mitsubishi
News bureau at 888-560-6672.

For further information, please contact Janis Little of Mitsubishi Motor
Sales of America, Inc., +1-714-372-6429, jlittle@mmsa.com; or Maurice Durand
of Fleishman-Hillard, Inc., +1-213-489-8247, durandm@fleishman.com, for
Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc.

Only 250horses though...kinda disapointed.
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Yeah, thats just a starting point though....should be a kick ass car.
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geez, all these tiny sports cars are getting so powerful. I smell more deaths from teens speeding in their 20k cars
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Originally posted by Paul
geez, all these tiny sports cars are getting so powerful. I smell more deaths from teens speeding in their 20k cars
Thats very true. Hopefully AWD+ACD+AYC will help. There will probably be a lot of blown engines too just like the RSX-S and Celica GT-S due to kids who don't know how to drive stick.
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Would Mitsubishi bring over Evo VII GT-A, which uses a 6 speed automatic transimssion, or just the manual transmission?
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Originally posted by SilverCL225hp
Would Mitsubishi bring over Evo VII GT-A, which uses a 6 speed automatic transimssion, or just the manual transmission?
The Evo VII GT-A has what Mitsubishi calls an Invecs-II Sports Mode 5 speed A/T which is basically like the transmission that is used in the TL/CL. As for the GT-A, it was just released in Japan a while ago and I have absolutly no idea if it is coming hear or not. I heard the RS wasn't going to make it because of its complete lack of creature comforts. GSR should make hear for sure, maybe the RS-II.

Mitsubishi is going for the performence image with the Evo VII so I dunno if they'll bring over an Evo with an automatic...

This of course is all speculation....
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Here's a pic of a GT-A. I wouldn't buy it just on the premise that it has Altezzas...

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Here's an Edmunds.com thing on the Evo VII.

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...2/page016.html

It says it only has 14/12in rotors though! JDM Evo VII's have 17/16in rotors!!!
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Originally posted by 2002 3.2 CL
The 350z is just being made to make nissan look good.
Uh, that is what most Manufacturers do with their products.

The old 300z was and is the only fun to drive car they ever made.
I haven't driven the 350Z yet; have you?

But unlike Honda/Acura, Nissan is using hype around this car making it look like the greatest car that could beat any car.
Nissan's advertising campaign for the Maxima and Altima are along the same genre. I have not seen official advertising from Nissan on the 350Z.


To sum it up

2 new cars (which are still in concept stages) that came from a line up of the older versions that never sold good to begin with and you have 2 cars that might never see production. Don't flame me but this is just true facts on how these cars are being presented to the public.
The 350Z is a very real car. No longer concept.

PS The new NSX is the s**t [/B][/QUOTE]
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Here's the Evo VII. Enjoy.

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When Mitsu brings Evo7 here the WRX STi should be here as well.
Whoever sells that fake aluminum plastic crap is making a KILLING.
It's on the 3 series, CL now and WOW the Neon, great job! Fake aluminum makes the car look SOOOOO much better

That Lex is for a Steven Siegal movie, a futuristic movie I guess...
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
That Lex is for a Steven Siegal movie, a futuristic movie I guess...
actually its a Steven Spielberg movie starring Tom Cruise.

and don't try to play other manufacturers for using the fake aluminum... Lexus/Toyota is just as guilty. Shit is in tons of Toyotas and I know its made an appearence in several lexi... the RX for sure.
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Every showgoer asked aloud which end was the front end of that Lexus. Kinda funny, this little kid said, "You mean this car has two back ends?"
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Not to change the subject, but did anyone see the Infiniti G35? Any news on price/availability?
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Originally posted by pwille
Not to change the subject, but did anyone see the Infiniti G35? Any news on price/availability?
This topic is set to sticky purposely to discuss the subject, which is other makes and models from the L.A Auto show. It's possible the G35 was there, so your question is probably not all too off topic. You may want to do a search (there's been a couple of topics on it) or start a seperate topic for more info though!!
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regarding that lexus thing...

"Designed as a high-performance two-seat sports car for the year 2054, this futuristic Lexus has a muscular design with extreme cab-forward seating, wheels tracked out to each corner, and proportions so unusual that at first glance it's hard to tell the front from the rear. Lexus' fantasy car of the future will star alongside Tom Cruise in this summer's Steven Spielberg film, "Minority Report," a science-fiction adventure set in a futuristic judicial system in which killers are arrested and convicted before they can commit murder. The custom car was created by conceptual artist Harald Belker ("Batman & Robin," "Inspector Gadget," and "Armageddon") in association with Spielberg and the Calty (Toyota/Lexus design studio) team."
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About the EVO...what they are gonna do to make it 260hp.
Because the differences between the EVO and GSX are the turbos...one is a 14G maxed at 14psi...220hp...and other is a 16G(small) which is running I think 14-16psi (up to 22psi)...for 280hp.
THE EVO has a higher revving cam...8000 redline vs. 7000 on the GSX. A high flow intake manifold...stronger drivetrain...and limited slips for the front and rear. Hopefully, those things will all make it to the new one.
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Originally posted by pwille
Not to change the subject, but did anyone see the Infiniti G35? Any news on price/availability?
I posted this in another thread, here are the numbers on the G35 -

G35 Sport Sedan -- $27,100
G35 Sport Sedan w/ Leather -- $28,950

They really get you with the options:

Premium package -- $2,200
Navigation package --$2,000
Sunroof -- $1,000
Bose Audio System -- $900
Winter Package (Sport) -- $600
Aero Package -- $550
Xenon headlights -- $550
Winter Package -- $450
Sport-Tuned Suspension Package -- $425
Wood Package --$250
Full-Size Spare Tire -- $180

[ Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020107/lam113_1.html ]
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Hwy soopa, the fake aluminum in the RX silversport and Rav-4 sucks too for the record.

Funny the TT has REAL Aluminum, the fake looks so off it is pathetic. It looks worse than fake wood.

If they put Altezza lights on the Lancer here I will PUKE
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
About the EVO...what they are gonna do to make it 260hp.
Because the differences between the EVO and GSX are the turbos...one is a 14G maxed at 14psi...220hp...and other is a 16G(small) which is running I think 14-16psi (up to 22psi)...for 280hp.
THE EVO has a higher revving cam...8000 redline vs. 7000 on the GSX. A high flow intake manifold...stronger drivetrain...and limited slips for the front and rear. Hopefully, those things will all make it to the new one.
Probably just change the ECU. The Evo and GSX share the same engine 4G63, but the Evo's is slightly different (hollow cams, magnesium intake etc).
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