franklinhid

Wasnt sure where to put it, so mods feel free to move.

Finally had the time to join azine and see whats all the talk about.

Here is my 1994 RHD Honda Civic sedan,with something you guys might like.













Its an 03' TL-S with an 03' accord 6sp. Normal bolt-ons(intake headers,exhaust) and tuned on a Apexi VAFC2. I was having issues with the TL-S ECU running in limp mode and found out its because its looking for the tiptronic(sp) and obviously i dont have that.lol. So i just sourced an 03 TL auto ecu and gunna try it out and see how it does.

Now im off to check the boards out and see what interesting mods i find on here!!!

DaveS221

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NICE ride man an welcome!!!

Aman

LOVE what you did with the engine...

But please for the love of all things human get a hood that covers the engine please...

Otherwise, I think you pulled it off well. A couple of questionable parts, but nicely done

FiftyFive

Moved to CarTalk.

Why not use an Accord 6spd Ecu?

SLushhYYY

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bravo man.

sick ride!

ANC297

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Nice man. But I gotta say lose the back antenna.

Eoanou

How fast is a J-series Civic? High 13s or is it much quicker?

hANDYcaptd

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Nice!

Costco

I'm pretty sure it's in the 12s easily, especially with slicks. My buddy's Integra sedan with a B20 block with a B16 head with a valve job running on slicks ran 12s.

That is awesome btw. It looks like those older muscle cars with their blowers sticking out of the hood

franklinhid

LOL. thanks. n yea the engine stocking out is a love hate thing. i personally loveeeeeeeee it. like mentioned a few post of, kinda gives the american muscle look, i think of it as JDM muscle


thanks for the move!

n accord ecu eh?hmm. i gotta see if it has the same pin-out. thats wat makes/breaks this ecu interchange for me. I just put my Base TL ecu n WOWWWWWWW worlds differenceee.
Rev limiter is at 6k i believe but its not in limp mode, so it feels like a monster! Everytime i find something new i unlokc even more power, and the ecu switch was the biggest change.i hear the oddysey one is great as well.

can anyone point me in a good direction to see the rev limits for different cars?this tl one appears to have a 6k max rev. i know a few rev til 7200-7400 but not sure which one tho.
I.E
accorrds,tl,tl-s,cl,cl-s,oddyseey(sp), etc

thanks, its another one of those love hate things. its a very rare antenna here in the states and is looked for by everyone, only a handfull here and maybe 1-2 working ones, so i love it.
correct. there is one local(2hours away) to me that WAS running 12.2 on slicks. now boosted and has broke into the 10s. x=

on limp mode i ran a 13.6,lol. revving till 5,500,street tires spining the whole 1/4, missing 5th.lol.i saddly had to hit 5th because limp mode. and before anyone says "y would u run ur car on limp mode", i just found out it was on limp mode last night after hitting the dyno and getting actual rpm readings from the dyno. the one on the car is obviously of because its meant to read 4cycl not 6.

ThreePointTwoTeeEl

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Videos

mclarenf3387

Looks good.

Why aren't you runnning a CL Type S 6 speed Ecu though? I would imagine that would get rid of all your issues since the engine is pretty much the same between those CL-S' and TL-S' and the ECU won't be looking for any inputs from the trans.

Blazin Si

Very cool. Gotta appreciate all the work that went into that. I still have my Civic and it went high 12's on slicks with 197 whp and only 129 ft lbs of torque. I'd imagine if you can get the ECU thing sorted out and get that car to hook up, you'd see 11's no problem.

franklinhid

CL-s and TL-s would be looking for the tiptronic inputs once i jump the ecu to make it think its in drive. once it doesnt find it, it goes into limp mode. i found this alll out today thanks to having some issues on the dyno yesterday.lol


edit wait- the CL-S 6 speed ecu eh?hmm.i think i heard something about that, now i have to see. i completely forgot about it.lol.

F23A4

Changing gears a bit: franklinhid, I've seen your ride on NJ Tuners and I think you've attended meets with my son and his friend (smag1022 and clin10, respectively).

Rockstar21

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whats with the chevy mud flaps?

great job on the swap.. and like mentioned above.. why not use one of the two 6 spd ecu's... CL-S 6spd and AV6 6spd

Eoanou

I'm sure there is a CL-S 6spd ECU in the Black Market for sale, check it out.

Eoanou

Oh by the way, how is the right hand drive thing, does it feel odd at times?

CGP CL9

k24a2 tsx engine revs to 7100 - 7200
k is the new b

CGP CL9

BUT....
i think its cool that you went out of the way to get something different from the other tegs and civics and did a j swap

NSXNEXT

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Great work. Did you do the engine work? Another great install from Joisey

njzprettyboy

NIM representing....nice ride...I used to show with NIM for a bit when I had my TL...tell Ryan and the gang Chirag says wat up!

franklinhid

Nice. yep. i know both of them Very well! clinton is defff a chatacter. ur son is cool people!

i had a k20. blew it up. put a k frank in there. got tired and went j. i was revvign to 9k all day!went 12.6 with it on drag radials



LOL. those are again rare and probably the ONLY set state side!
*runs to check*

its defff fun!lots of attention!
nice nice. will do!

n1njai

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Have you heard of the awd civic, there's one for sale on clublexus, i couldn't believe it....but its real, a stock awd civic.

Edit: this one here http://www.clublexus.com/forums/non-...c-zc-rtsi.html

franklinhid

yepp. sure have. defff nicee. too bad the drive train is like a tooth pick and cant handle alittle more power than stock

teh CL

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the CLS6 ecu is definately what you need..

franklinhid

hmm now i gotta find it.

mcflyguy24

You look into the P2R power plenum yet? That'll open up some power since you have your hood cut it'll fit too.

SuperTrooper169

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Just another Civic, huh? Lol, damn bro, that's insane! Love the J-swap in it. Unreal.

So you have the Accord 6spd in it... does that mean you don't have the limited slip that the CL-S6 or TL 6spd have? Something you should probably look into if you don't since that will definitely help hook more power up to the pavement.

Kudos on an extremely crazy Civic!

mrmako

Nice.... And I'm not a Civic liking guy.

And you have the front passenger side bumper stick that all of the old Baba's here have (because they have no idea where their front bumper is). It's ugly, but no one in the US has them

Keep us posted on what you do with her.

mlrskn06

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not too much my style, but damn mad props for the swap and being unique man, def one of a kind

BENDER08

thats something different looking good!

1slo23

I saw this on Honda Tech too, looks really good!

TCM 01 CL-S

Very nice, planning anymore bolt-ons (besides a 6 speed ecu)?

gatrhumpy

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If I ever win the lottery, I'm putting a V6 into my wife's Civic.

SlickShiftNall6

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Great work on the swap! Car looks good too. The market for J32 parts is getting a great boost from you civic guys! Only just recently could we get high performance valve-train components and pistons. Very exciting, and hopefully soon we'll have more clutch/flywheel choices.

When using the CL-6speed ecu remember a few things:
You will need to swap out a whole bunch of parts because the ecu will be looking for the 2 crank position/shaft sensors. You will end up in limp mode again.
One of our senior members on the CL side discovered this when swapping a auto motor into his 6speed. BTW his name is jproy, and when he talks you listen He has pioneered many a mod for our cars. Anyway let me find the parts list or that thread for you...

Found em. All parts from a CL-S 6speed. (like mine!!)

Front cam pulley 14260-PGE-A11
Front plate assembly (behind cam pulley) 11860-PGE-A10
Timing belt pulley(lower) 13621-PGE-A11
Crank shaft sensor 37500-PGE-A11
Subharness for CKP 37501-PGE-A10
TDC Sensors (Qty 2) 37840-PGE-A11
SUB HARNESS 37841-PGE-A10

There was talk on another site about getting around this... But the parts needed to swap are not all that expensive. From the looks at your car, you don't have a problem spending $$$ on your ride.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you might be able to use the richiev6 module that CL and TL guys use when doing a 6speed swap:

Originally Posted by RichieV6
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of a 6 speed manual transmission with a stock 5 speed automatic transmission computer from the TL, Odyssey and CL. This allows for automatic to manual conversions and for engine swaps.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

The advantage over using the 03 CL 6 speed ECU.
-You keep your stock ECU.
-No need to change engine harness
-No need for expensive cam gears and sensors
-No need to tow your car to dealer to immobilizer programming
-No need to tear apart interior to change body harness
-Allow you to use TL and Accord 6 speed which are more plentiful and have less mileage.
-No CEL

Basically you can save lots of money using the harness and everything is simplified.


So I think a 6speed ecu with the correct 6speed parts, or the richiev6 module should fix that limp mode problem. You do know about the new site that popped up just for these swaps. Pm me for info if not.
Good luck and hope to see your car at one of the upcoming tri-state area meets.

EvolveTSX

great looking ride!!! But a Canadian guy beat ya to it! Check out Honda Tuning, I see him rolling around mississauga and the gta a whole lot!

Miiike

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^ he's on acurazine too, his username is pinho