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Old 12-15-2016 | 12:33 AM
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Issues with annoying tpms system on Hondas and Acuras

With the amount of people frustrated with this stupid tire monitoring system that will not allow you to turn VSA off I am surprised there hasn't been enough effort to hack honda computer and get rid of this annoying garbage on otherwise decent cars. Sort of a little fuck you hOnda and your dealers. Let's agree this system was really made a requirement because it's a cash cow for dealers. Need new sensors go to dealer. And of course batteries are not replaceable on these 40-60$ sensors.

Basically one some hondas it seems like pulling tpms sensor fuse resolves the issue.. u are still able to dissable VSA.
But on most newer hondas it's not possible.

1)any way to dissable tpms?

2) If not possible how can I dissable VSA.
I really would rather drive with no VSA then pay 200+ dollars for nothing. It's actually 350 with reprogramming.

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Old 12-15-2016 | 01:06 AM
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Might just replace batteries. Just ripped one sensor apart.

Panasonic br2450a.

​​​​​​mouser.com or digi keys should have such batteries

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Old 12-15-2016 | 06:12 AM
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hey VTech-how about some constructive work towards remedying your problems with VSA instead of starting another "Honda/Acura sucks balls because . . . .?" You know this thread is going nowhere fast just like your last bashing thread, why start doing it all over again?
Old 12-15-2016 | 07:04 AM
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in my six years of ownership, I've only replaced ONE bad TPMS.....
certainly not a cash-cow by ANY means
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Old 12-15-2016 | 07:38 AM
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kinda screwed since all new car has that sensor now.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
kinda screwed since all new car has that sensor now.
Get rid of all the things that doesnt make sense to MRvtech



and vtech is a brand of phones in the 90's. not to be confused with Honda's Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
Old 12-15-2016 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
hey VTech-how about some constructive work towards remedying your problems with VSA instead of starting another "Honda/Acura sucks balls because . . . .?" You know this thread is going nowhere fast just like your last bashing thread, why start doing it all over again?
I could not find definite guides on resetting tpms. Basically at the moment it looks like i will need to go to a dealer after battery replacement so he can link tpms signal with cars computer. I may be wrong. Maybe tpms will still Send same signal even after battery replacement.

Justin this is another cash cow for a dealer. Your sensor went bad.. then thoiboi sensors went bad. So all together adds up. Batteries are purposely made to be very hard to replace. It's definitely providing extra income to a dealer approach.

Ideally an owner should be able to replace the battery easily and link tpms signal to receiver in the car. But NO.. Panasonic will get paid. We can't lose that much money.

Same thing with run flat "technology ". Locking customers to your dealer. Like iPhone. Selling inferior charging cables for premium money. And etc

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Old 12-15-2016 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
kinda screwed since all new car has that sensor now.
Cars made in the late 90's are looking good now since they hardly have any sensors yet have very good crash standards. I am still driving my 99TL because it's very easy on the pocket book.
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Justin this is another cash cow for a dealer. Your sensor went bad.. then thoiboi sensors went bad.
How the heck did I get dragged into this..?



There's a lot of things you don't like about this car, you should really consider selling it and going back to the good ol' days where there were no sensors whatsoever on the cars, less error-prone, less stress, less parts to replace.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 10:25 AM
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For all the time he's spent bitching about it, he could have fixed the issues and been on his way
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
How the heck did I get dragged into this..?



There's a lot of things you don't like about this car, you should really consider selling it and going back to the good ol' days where there were no sensors whatsoever on the cars, less error-prone, less stress, less parts to replace.
Just an example of a typical driver who goes to dealer for everything.

It's 80$/sensor and 120$ to reprogram. So 400$ wasted. I'll see if replacing the battery won't require reprogram. Just relearn.
400$ is quite a bit of money for a dealer . Considering he pays 10$/sensor and nothing for reprogram tool
Old 12-15-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MrVtech
Just an example of a typical driver who goes to dealer for everything.
I haven't been to the dealer since I've bought the car but thanks for making assumptions; you know what they say about that


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It's 80$/sensor and 120$ to reprogram. So 400$ wasted. I'll see if replacing the battery won't require reprogram. Just relearn.
400$ is quite a bit of money for a dealer . Considering he pays 10$/sensor and nothing for reprogram tool
Why do you feel you'd need to re-program the sensors..? They're self learning.. Unless you're trying to use aftermarket sensors that aren't exactly compatible and thus making it harder for yourself..
Old 12-15-2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
I haven't been to the dealer since I've bought the car but thanks for making assumptions; you know what they say about that



Why do you feel you'd need to re-program the sensors..? They're self learning.. Unless you're trying to use aftermarket sensors that aren't exactly compatible and thus making it harder for yourself..
If u put new sensor.. even Original honda u do need to reprogram. .to sync radio signal from new sensor with cAR computer.

If u replace the battery maybe reprogramming is not necessary. But I am not 100%sure . Maybe radio signal info is deleted if u unplug the battery.
Old 12-15-2016 | 10:45 AM
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Upon further research it seems like you're right..


FOR YOUR CAR, the ODYSSEY, that does seem to be the case.. How to put in "learning mode" to reset the TPMS sensors


Have you considered reaching out to the proper forums to complain about your issues / research rather than a completely different forum with many viewers that likely don't even know what car you drive?! How the heck are we supposed to actually provide proper support/advice when you're not even giving us all the proper info..

Honda Odyssey Forum : Odyssey Minivan Forums
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Old 12-15-2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Upon further research it seems like you're right..


FOR YOUR CAR, the ODYSSEY, that does seem to be the case.. How to put in "learning mode" to reset the TPMS sensors


Have you considered reaching out to the proper forums to complain about your issues / research rather than a completely different forum with many viewers that likely don't even know what car you drive?! How the heck are we supposed to actually provide proper support/advice when you're not even giving us all the proper info..

Honda Odyssey Forum : Odyssey Minivan Forums
Odyclub has some registration issues. Can't register on it. And no way to retrieve old password.

Also most threads there end with people screaming their heads out "you must visit your dealer".

Honda-tech has some knowledgeable posters. Here I read justins posts, yungone.. and few others. Informative. No one does headgaskets on odyclub. While here I could get a quick advice on slapping 2006 rl heads on honda odyssey 2009. Worked out beautifully. I know I am not the most likeable poster but really appreciate some posters advices here. Justins In particular. Saves a lot of time and research. I would not bother with tpms if not for snow that's coming.

Also 400$ to replace a parts that need 15$ worth of batteries ? That's scam.. time to grow up. Don't be a brands fan boy. All big companies try to scam customers with their proprietary shet. Like I said.. Hondas are best for me so far design and quality wise. Thst does not mean I need to blindly admire all desisions this company made.

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Old 12-15-2016 | 11:05 AM
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We do sort of have a pretty fricking awesome community here don't we? :gheyhug:


I guess what I'm suggesting is, there are some topics that may be car-specific and with you not having an Acura, this site may not necessarily be the most beneficial for some of your needs.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 11:20 AM
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Updated your title. If you're genuinely looking for help, better titles is the first start. Otherwise your threads will get derailed and locked and you won't get any answers...
Old 12-15-2016 | 11:22 AM
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Does TPMS actually tie into the VSA system? I would think they are two separate things.

I too hate TPMS. I can keep track of my tire pressures the way I have been since I've been driving. I actually took the sensors out of my trucks entirely because the sensors couldn't handle the aftermarket size and pressures I run. The light flashes occasionally, but I just put a piece of black tape over it.
Old 12-15-2016 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
Does TPMS actually tie into the VSA system? I would think they are two separate things.

Some cars' VSA system do tie in TPMS
Old 12-15-2016 | 12:50 PM
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we have a '13 odyssey and I was reading on odyforum that some people would not use TPMS sensors on their winter steel rims. They get lights on the dash, but I didn't hear of any other issues.
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we have a '13 odyssey and I was reading on odyforum that some people would not use TPMS sensors on their winter steel rims. They get lights on the dash, but I didn't hear of any other issues.
were they able to turn off vsa? When in deep snow u definitely want vsa off. That's my only concern: being able to turn off VSA
Old 12-15-2016 | 01:41 PM
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In the mean time this bead breaking method from youtube worked well


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Wow that looks terrible for your tires
Old 12-16-2016 | 12:09 AM
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Wow that looks terrible for your tires
nah. They handle your tires even worse at shops. Those teethless high school drop outs. Just want to strip threads and break shet.

Anyway. I ordered 4 panasonic br2477a/van.
These are twice the capacity of Original batteries. 550mah vs 1000mah. Size wise they are only 2mm thicker and will easily fit into the sensor.
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panasonic-bsg/BR-2477A-VAN/P030-ND/273650

U would wonder why I am doing this.. just can't get over paying 400$ for 15$ worth of batteries.

If things work out I'll do diy thread.

DoeS anyone know where I can rent or buy tpms reprogram tool? On some cars I've heard u can just use a big magnet to reset it. Just found this piece

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet-TPMS-Reset-Tool/dp/B008SCWXN4
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Originally Posted by MrVtech
Just an example of a typical driver who goes to dealer for everything.

It's 80$/sensor and 120$ to reprogram. So 400$ wasted. I'll see if replacing the battery won't require reprogram. Just relearn.
400$ is quite a bit of money for a dealer . Considering he pays 10$/sensor and nothing for reprogram tool
there is this thing called youtube.... (I kid, I kid) :p

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Shoulda just bought a 2013+ Honda Accord.

Indirect TPMS FTW!
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Old 12-19-2016 | 11:24 AM
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What's the next thread going to be about, valve stems?
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What's the next thread going to be about, valve stems?
Tire weights (for serious)
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I know that
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Originally Posted by MrVtech
nah. They handle your tires even worse at shops. Those teethless high school drop outs. Just want to strip threads and break shet.

Anyway. I ordered 4 panasonic br2477a/van.
These are twice the capacity of Original batteries. 550mah vs 1000mah. Size wise they are only 2mm thicker and will easily fit into the sensor.
BR-2477A/VAN Panasonic - BSG | Battery Products | DigiKey

U would wonder why I am doing this.. just can't get over paying 400$ for 15$ worth of batteries.

If things work out I'll do diy thread.

DoeS anyone know where I can rent or buy tpms reprogram tool? On some cars I've heard u can just use a big magnet to reset it. Just found this piece

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet.../dp/B008SCWXN4
You need to find better shops then and be friends with the manager and the workers there. I also learned something as well. If you tip the guys that work on your cars you get much better service. Nothing big $5 or $10 tops. I hang out in the back at the tire place when they swap my tires from side to side since they directional and bullshit with the guys working. They take great care of my stuff since I am standing there watching. :twocents:
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
What's the next thread going to be about, valve stems?
Originally Posted by thoiboi
Tire weights (for serious)
Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I know that
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No problem
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Just quick update. Replacing batteries does the trick. No reprogramming needed. To test which sensor is bad.. deflate one tire half way.. drive half a mile and if tpms sensor light turns off and u get low tire pressure light (!) This sensor is working.
Inflate tire back.. drive .5 miles do the same with the next semsor.

I did one mistake and switched polarity on last two sensors. I thought it would fry the electronics. What will happen is ull drain the battery. I thought I fried the chips and went to Monroe local tire shop. The use redi branded sensors. These work. 160$ a pair installed and programed. If I knew redi works.. I would probably not bother with battery project. On the other hand.. the 2 sensors where I put big batteries (twice the capacity) send a very strong signal. The guys tool picked it up in an instant. Redi sensors took few seconds to register the signal on his tool.

So basically this can be done home.. just make sure to solder Thst ground connection. Small pin closest to the valve. No reprogramming needed
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Old 03-14-2017 | 10:35 PM
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i commend your extreme DIY.
but it's just easier to buy new TPMS and have tire shops install
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