I understand the benefits of those in a foggy night (or even day), but I just hate those idiots who leave them on in a clear night. The glare is unbearable!!

 

Most people here with Volvo's, Audi's, Jag's etc. have them on all the time. The brighest ones I've ever encountered was those on the older Jaguar XJ8's.

 

I don't think I have ever noticed those.

 

why you need fog in the rear?

 

Its a euro thing, you wouldnt understand

 

So on foggy night a car coming up from behind has a better chance of seeing you and not rear ending you.

 

theyre annoying. my buddy's a4 has that and he's always accidentally turning them on. makes it look like hes got a light out or something.

 

I agree people that drive with them on during a clear night should be shot. I know for a fact in a Benzino...there is no way you wouln't know that its on, the indicator light for the rear fog is bright yellow.

 

The worst thing is, you can't really look away from them. You see that BLINDING RED LIGHT whether or not it is in you line of sight. Fucking annoying.

 

I've never seen a rear foglight, does anyone have a picture of it?

 

 

OHHHHHHHH i just assumed a friend's A4 had it's right light broken. HAhaha.

I agree. taht shit is annoying. I bet I'll be seeing that more often now cause of this thread.

 

I used to think the same. I was like "stupid Euros with their shitty electronics."

 

I remember seeing a car recently at night (I believe it was a Jaguar) that had a rear fog light on both sides.. It looked like the guy was driving with his brakes on the entire time. So annoying!

 

I believe...and I may be mistaken...those types of lights are illegal to use in DE... dunno:

They are pretty strict on those things on the street, the little blue LEDS, any of the 'extra' lights in the rear of the car. I'd be suprised they were legal to use anywhere really...

 

Yeah, but if it comes as standard on a car, it wouldn't be considered "extra". I guess if the manufacturers can sell it, it's most likely legal, otherwise they never would have approved it for import to the U.S. without removing/modifying it.

I guess the same thing can be said for people who drive around during a clear day or night with FOG lights on.

According to PA law...fog lights, which have a short-wide beam, must turn off when high beams are on. This is usually the case with OEM fogs. As for DRIVING lights, which resemble foglights but have a longer narrow beam, low or high beam headlights must be OFF if using driving lights. I don't know any manufacturer that has OEM driving lights installed on their cars.

I guess it's pretty easy to violate these laws, but pretty hard to enforce since the officer must know the difference between driving lights and fog lights, as well as be THERE when the violation occurs. If you're driving down a dark street with high beams AND foglights on and pass a police cruiser, you DESERVE to be pulled over for not turning off your highs when you saw him coming the other way.



I actually saw someone get pulled over because he had 2 sets of "auxiliary" lights on the front of his car, plus his headlights, on at the same time.

 

That's the case here too...too many lights(front or rear) and you get a nice ticket.

I think they have a few extra laws about lights in the rear in DE regarding the Amish carts too...maybe that's why they are a bit more vigilant about the lighting. The little Amish carts have a standard rear yellow light and a flashing blue LED. Don't hear of many accidents with them, but when somebody hits a buggy, it's usually a nasty accident with everyone involved ending up DOA.

 

can't say that I've ever followed a car that was using them before...

 

NHTSA rating of minus 5-stars?

Amish people need more airbags.