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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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How long is too long to wait for an A4 Avant?

So back in March I put a deposit on a 2009 A4 Avant. I was doing a custom order (no dealers had any with a sport package) and I was told that it would be a while, August at the latest. Recently I was told it's going to have to be a 2010 model, and the delivery date is now mid-October!

Is that to be expected on an Audi, and is it reasonable given that it's a new MY? I never waited that long for a car before...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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i guess it depends how much you want the car.. i'm sure there are tons of other people waiting also
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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when we put our order in for our Avant in February of 2008, we didn't take delivery until June 15!

Patience my friend, patience. Feel proud knowing that you got exactly what you wanted, and didn't settle for what they had on the lot.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I never got that about Audi...

BMW seems to be so much faster and turning around custom orders. They have pretty much always told me 3-4 months when I have inquired about it, but Audi is always saying 6-9 months if not longer...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Ok so it seems like it's pretty much in line with what other people get?
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Ok so it seems like it's pretty much in line with what other people get?
3-6 months is the norm for Audi, but usually it's 4 -6 months. 3 months only occurs when a dealership alreayd has an allotment in place where they tweak a few things to conform to what a customer wants. If that doesn't work, they have to wait till their next ordering period or something like that comes around. that is my understanding of how it works which was described to me by the sales manager who sold us our car.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Plus, the new model is being very well received meaning orders are taking a little longer then normal.

Both of our cars were purchased off of the lot so we could hammer them on pricing... so we didn't have to deal with that... but one of my neighbors waited 5 months for theirs...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Maybe you can ask for some price accommodation because they are now telling you that you're getting a 2010, not an 09 like you ordered?
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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^ You think they're going to take money off if he's getting a newer model then what was ordered?
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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^ You think they're going to take money off if he's getting a newer model then what was ordered?
Well, if he ordered X, and they are saying it will be later and a model he did not order (not that that's bad), would it hurt to ask? I know those sales guys are like vultures, but would they risk loosing a sale? Just a thought.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Dude, if you got Navi, you'll be SO glad you got bumped. The 2010s get the 3G MMI now.

I don't recall what you ordered but there are some changes for MY2010 that make it worth waiting if you got the packages or options affected.

Frankly, I'd wait. Your car is already going to be consider "a year old" so if you keep it for say 4-5 years, you'd be selling a 5-6 year old car vs a 4-5 year old one.

Great for the 2nd buyer, bad for you IMO.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I'm happy with getting a 2010, just not happy with having the delivery date change so much. Also, I have a feeling the sales guy might have known that he was out of 2009 allotment so he baited me with it knowing he would switch me to a 2010 later. It's just a question of principle. The price is $500 over MSRP which I'm ok with, I think that's fair. This dealer's invoice is also lower than other dealers I called, they shave a few hundred off the "other fees".

Is October pretty much the first time people get 2010 cars? Seems like it's about right.

I'm also happy with the 2010 changes, I get LED tail lights now, and the sports package now has to be the S-Line package, which wasn't available on the Avant 2.0 before.

My order is for Avant 2.0T Premium + Tech + Sport, grey metallic/black interior (only interior option for S-Line package)
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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I think it took us a little over 3 months to get our A4 2.0T, ordered early Feb, got the car May 2nd, which seems to be a little quicker than most people's experience.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
The price is $500 over MSRP which I'm ok with, I think that's fair. This dealer's invoice is also lower than other dealers I called, they shave a few hundred off the "other fees".
I'm assuming you mean $500 over invoice, not MSRP. $500 over MSRP would be an awful deal.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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I would never buy a wagon.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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I would never buy a wagon.
Then there are a lot of great cars you are missing out on.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JD23
I'm assuming you mean $500 over invoice, not MSRP. $500 over MSRP would be an awful deal.
I hope so. And its illegal to sell over MSRP in Canada.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Then there are a lot of great cars you are missing out on.
Meh. I hate the looks of wagons.

Sedans>>>>*
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Then there are a lot of great cars you are missing out on.


There are a lot of great wagons out there... many of which I wouldn't mind owning myself.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
I'm happy with getting a 2010, just not happy with having the delivery date change so much. Also, I have a feeling the sales guy might have known that he was out of 2009 allotment so he baited me with it knowing he would switch me to a 2010 later. It's just a question of principle. The price is $500 over MSRP which I'm ok with, I think that's fair. This dealer's invoice is also lower than other dealers I called, they shave a few hundred off the "other fees".

Is October pretty much the first time people get 2010 cars? Seems like it's about right.

I'm also happy with the 2010 changes, I get LED tail lights now, and the sports package now has to be the S-Line package, which wasn't available on the Avant 2.0 before.

My order is for Avant 2.0T Premium + Tech + Sport, grey metallic/black interior (only interior option for S-Line package)
Pics as soon as you get it... sounds hot!!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Meh. I hate the looks of wagons.

Sedans>>>>*
There are plenty of sport wagons out there that look 10x's better than there sedan counterparts.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
I would never buy a wagon.
Duly noted.

*Checks list*

Let's see, Gatrhumpy ... Wagon ... No.

Got it.

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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well, if you were baited, why not take your business to a different dealer, if they will better the deal. Maybe they can give the same price but give you the 1st major service.

wouldn't it be fun to go in and tell them to stick it?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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well, if you were baited, why not take your business to a different dealer, if they will better the deal. Maybe they can give the same price but give you the 1st major service.

wouldn't it be fun to go in and tell them to stick it?


Unless the deal is better than what any other dealer could offer if you were to walk in and ask for the car they are now giving you, then it doesn't make sense to not bargain for more since they didn't originally stick to what the agreement was. If the deal they gave on the newer model is the same deal you can get elsewhere, you aren't missing out on anything then.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Dude, if you got Navi, you'll be SO glad you got bumped. The 2010s get the 3G MMI now.

I don't recall what you ordered but there are some changes for MY2010 that make it worth waiting if you got the packages or options affected.

Frankly, I'd wait. Your car is already going to be consider "a year old" so if you keep it for say 4-5 years, you'd be selling a 5-6 year old car vs a 4-5 year old one.

Great for the 2nd buyer, bad for you IMO.
yup 2010 A4 Avant is going to have 3G MMI.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JD23
I'm assuming you mean $500 over invoice, not MSRP. $500 over MSRP would be an awful deal.
LOL yes, $500 over dealer invoice.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Meh. I hate the looks of wagons.

Sedans>>>>*
Me too, but that's the only way I can get the missus to agree to buy an expensive car. Has to also have the utility aspect. And the Avant happens to be the best-looking wagon out there. I'd still rather drive that than an SUV or a minivan. If I wasn't getting that I'd just end up getting a Mazda 5.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eggplant-EX
well, if you were baited, why not take your business to a different dealer, if they will better the deal. Maybe they can give the same price but give you the 1st major service.

wouldn't it be fun to go in and tell them to stick it?
Yea it would, but I'm not sure if they really knew they wouldn't be able to get me a 2009, and also their deal was $1000 less than any other dealer I asked. And they give me the same deal on a new model year, while I think most people end up paying more for being first to get a new MY. I also don't feel like going through the effort, and it would just add to the delay.
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yup 2010 A4 Avant is going to have 3G MMI.
What's that?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Me too, but that's the only way I can get the missus to agree to buy an expensive car. Has to also have the utility aspect. And the Avant happens to be the best-looking wagon out there. I'd still rather drive that than an SUV or a minivan. If I wasn't getting that I'd just end up getting a Mazda 5.



I say try and get them to haggle a little. And enjoy the ride once you get it.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JD23
I'm assuming you mean $500 over invoice, not MSRP. $500 over MSRP would be an awful deal.
why would Audi sell a BRAND NEW 2010 A4 Avant sell it for $500 over invoice?

I still think OP got a decent deal... not the best deal, but not the worst deal.

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What's that?
New navi system that audi came out with... Q5 was the first one to launch this 3G MMI navi, so make sure to check that out.
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Me too, but that's the only way I can get the missus to agree to buy an expensive car. Has to also have the utility aspect. And the Avant happens to be the best-looking wagon out there. I'd still rather drive that than an SUV or a minivan. If I wasn't getting that I'd just end up getting a Mazda 5.
acutally, new A4 Avant with s-line looks pretty sick!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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I'm sure your get put at the back of the line when you custom order.

They have a bigger chance to meet many customers at once by mass producing and filling dealer lots. If they slow down mass production, they make one car for one person, versus many cars for many different people.
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I'm sure your get put at the back of the line when you custom order.

They have a bigger chance to meet many customers at once by mass producing and filling dealer lots. If they slow down mass production, they make one car for one person, versus many cars for many different people.


their ordering system allows for items within a current allotment to be modified as long as it doesn't change certain characteristics of the car, namely, color, and drivetrain. The rest of the options can be modified before their next allotment goes into production; otherwise, custom orders are handled seperately. This is the case for Audi, I don't know how merc and bimmer handle their custom orders.
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
why would Audi sell a BRAND NEW 2010 A4 Avant sell it for $500 over invoice?

I still think OP got a decent deal... not the best deal, but not the worst deal.
Look at post #26, the OP did get it for $500 over invoice, not $500 over MSRP. Given the slumping auto market, no one is paying anywhere near MSRP for most cars these days.
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Originally Posted by JD23
Look at post #26, the OP did get it for $500 over invoice, not $500 over MSRP. Given the slumping auto market, no one is paying anywhere near MSRP for most cars these days.
oops! my mistake.

btw, differences between invoice and msrp on most of audi models are roughtly $2,000 ~ $2,500. They aren't like honda or toyota, where there is huge gap in between invoice and msrp... so, if he paid $500 over invoice then he got like $1,500 off.... like I said, not a bad deal, but also not the best deal I seen.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
New navi system that audi came out with... Q5 was the first one to launch this 3G MMI navi, so make sure to check that out.
Haven't seen it yet, but I think the Navi's like $3500 and I'm planning on getting an iPhone and use it as a GPS, so it's WAY too much. The only thing I'll miss about the Navi is the nice color info screen between the guages, when you don't get Navi you get a crappy monochrome one.
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Haven't seen it yet, but I think the Navi's like $3500 and I'm planning on getting an iPhone and use it as a GPS, so it's WAY too much. The only thing I'll miss about the Navi is the nice color info screen between the guages, when you don't get Navi you get a crappy monochrome one.
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